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SUSJames Bum
post Feb 18 2015, 10:13 PM

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QUOTE(nikita zuleica @ Feb 18 2015, 09:57 PM)
Su-50 timeline, potential owner including korea iran n india
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nice.... hopefully it can shoot down a few F35 or F22 soon
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post Feb 18 2015, 10:13 PM

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QUOTE(kungfugymnast @ Feb 18 2015, 10:10 PM)
The meteor has further range than the rafale's radar maximum tracking range. Meaning that Rafale could only fully utilise the meteor with help from AWACS or GCI radar.

Americans had most experience in war knowing much how missile guidance works better. Russians got their experience by gathering feedback and report from allies syria, libya, iraq, serbia and also from 3rd party insurgents/militants. With help of russian researchers, the serbians managed to track and shoot down stealth F-117. French weapons have some success as proven in several wars.

The bosnian war displayed best result of french vs russian weapons before america intervened in later 1994. Result is french weapons not too advanced than russian weapons where french forces suffered high losses and failed to defeat serbian forces.

Mig-35 vs rafale, which do you prefer?
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The migs not even in mrca list.. why would need to consider? sweat.gif

f18sh ftw


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post Feb 18 2015, 10:16 PM

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QUOTE(kungfugymnast @ Feb 18 2015, 10:10 PM)
The meteor has further range than the rafale's radar maximum tracking range. Meaning that Rafale could only fully utilise the meteor with help from AWACS or GCI radar.
Mig-35 vs rafale, which do you prefer?
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Do you think Rafale new RBE2-AA (AESA) radar is short range ? biggrin.gif

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post Feb 18 2015, 10:51 PM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Feb 18 2015, 10:16 PM)
Do you think Rafale new RBE2-AA (AESA) radar is short range ? biggrin.gif
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The most it could go is up to f-16e and typhoon level. These fighters have relatively small radome with very limited space. Check the F/A-18e/f radome, it is only slightly smaller than f-15 that it could house larger more powerful radar.

Russian PESA capability, the pantsir could track and engage bombs, missiles carried by fighters. The russian claim probably true that its PESA could detect and track these small targets. PESA is developed out of russian researchers conducting detection research on American aircrafts during bosnia and kosovo campaign.
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post Feb 18 2015, 11:13 PM

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QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ Feb 18 2015, 10:13 PM)
The migs not even in mrca list.. why would need to consider?  sweat.gif

f18sh ftw
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Today not in mrca list doesn't mean tomorrow won't. If i bought the mig35, i would carry mix us, russian & french armaments.

Air to air:
2x r77rvvaepd for long range, 2x aim120c5/7 medium range & 4x r74 short range.

Air to ground close air support
2x r74, 6x agm65g (on 2x3 rack), 2x3 rack LAU10 zuni rockets or agm65g, 2 more pylons for either r77, agm88 harm or rbk-550 cluster bombs.

Anti-ship
2x r74, 2x r77 or aim120c, 4x kh31 or kh58 or exocet.

SEAD
2x r74, 2x countermeasure pods, 4x agm88 or kh31 anti-radiation, centreline for jammerpod.

If got into dogfight, it has 3d TVC and helmet mounted cue. Its radar is advanced PESA with tech obtained from detecting f117 defeating its stealth. Russian has air to air passive guided missile r27ep that tracks enemy fighter radar.

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post Feb 18 2015, 11:29 PM

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Indonesian Navy mulls Chinese 30 mm CIWS fit for corvettes, LPDs

Ridzwan Rahmat, Singapore - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly
17 February 2015

The Indonesian Navy (TNI-AL) is exploring the possibility of equipping its Kapitan Pattimura (Parchim I)-class corvettes and Makassar-class landing platform dock (LPD) ships with the Chinese-developed Type 730 close-in weapon system (CIWS), a source close to the TNI-AL informed IHS Jane's on 18 February.

This follows the installation of a Type 730 CIWS turret on a Kapitan Pattimura-class ship, KRI Sultan Thaha Syaifuddin . IHS Jane's understands that state-owned shipyard PT PAL has recently completed installation of the turret and will soon begin integrating a radar sensor into the system before commencing live-firing trials.

" Sultan Thaha Syaifuddin is the first vessel to be used as [a] trial for the Chinese system," said the source, adding that the 14 other ships-in-class will also be likely to receive the weapons if it is deemed suitable.


http://www.janes.com/article/49066/indones...-corvettes-lpds
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post Feb 18 2015, 11:29 PM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Feb 18 2015, 11:12 PM)


unseen footage of Malaysia T-90 test on our soil condition

From 15.00min onward
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T-90 no aircon...
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post Feb 18 2015, 11:51 PM

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QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ Feb 18 2015, 11:29 PM)
T-90 no aircon...
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can get help from india on that.. their new upgrade plan will feature air-conditioning system on their t-90s produced domestically

btw PT-91M have aircon meh ? I thought also dont have laugh.gif
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post Feb 19 2015, 12:02 AM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Feb 18 2015, 11:51 PM)
can get help from india on that.. their new upgrade plan will feature air-conditioning system on their t-90s produced domestically

btw PT-91M have aircon  meh ? I thought also dont have laugh.gif
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just put a fan then or maybe AC split brows.gif
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post Feb 19 2015, 12:06 AM

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QUOTE(madoka @ Feb 19 2015, 12:02 AM)
just put a fan then or maybe AC split brows.gif
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russian tak biasa put air cond only heaters.. laugh.gif

India try to put in but stopped by russian citing IP violation iinm
Then india ask russian to do but fail instead
now india redo themselves laugh.gif

the leopard i assume is already with air cond or climate control


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post Feb 19 2015, 12:13 AM

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QUOTE(kungfugymnast @ Feb 18 2015, 11:13 PM)
Today not in mrca list doesn't mean tomorrow won't. If i bought the mig35, i would carry mix us, russian & french armaments.

Air to air:
2x r77rvvaepd for long range, 2x aim120c5/7 medium range & 4x r74 short range.

Air to ground close air support
2x r74, 6x agm65g (on 2x3 rack), 2x3 rack LAU10 zuni rockets or agm65g, 2 more pylons for either r77, agm88 harm or rbk-550 cluster bombs.

Anti-ship
2x r74, 2x r77 or aim120c, 4x kh31 or kh58 or exocet.

SEAD
2x r74, 2x countermeasure pods, 4x agm88 or kh31 anti-radiation, centreline for jammerpod.
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If got into dogfight, it has 3d TVC and helmet mounted cue. Its radar is advanced PESA with tech obtained from detecting f117 defeating its stealth. Russian has air to air passive guided missile r27ep that tracks enemy fighter radar.
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if u want russian plane to carry European armaments, still can bincang, if Russian want to integrate them for you. But the situation now is highly unlikely

If u want a russian plane to use US armaments, dont need hope at all. Will nvr happen. Dont say about technical difficulties russian will give answer no laugh.gif
same so to asking our f18 to carry russian missiles. US will just say no sweat.gif



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post Feb 19 2015, 12:17 AM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Feb 19 2015, 12:06 AM)

the leopard i assume is already with air cond or climate control
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not originally and most in bundeswehr do not
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post Feb 19 2015, 12:18 AM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Feb 19 2015, 01:06 AM)
russian tak biasa put air cond only heaters..  laugh.gif

India try to put in but stopped by russian citing IP violation iinm
Then india ask russian to do but fail instead
now india redo themselves  laugh.gif

the leopard i assume is already with air cond or climate control
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not universally. canuckistani's leopard tanks in afghanistan got no air con also
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post Feb 19 2015, 12:24 AM

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QUOTE(heavyduty @ Feb 19 2015, 12:17 AM)
not originally and most in bundeswehr do not
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canadian leopard also no?

QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ Feb 19 2015, 12:18 AM)
not universally. canuckistani's leopard tanks in afghanistan got no air con also
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tat use water cooled jacket right?
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post Feb 19 2015, 12:26 AM

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QUOTE(azriel @ Feb 18 2015, 11:29 PM)
even our neight can have a proper ciws.. ours laugh.gif
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post Feb 19 2015, 12:35 AM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Feb 19 2015, 12:24 AM)
canadian leopard also no?
tat use water cooled jacket right?
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not when first bought,fitted with aircond now

water cooled jacket implies that it has water flowing through it,cool air from a small fridge at the back is blown through the vest,the vests helped 'a little bit' considering the temp could reach in excess of 100 degree celcius after firing laugh.gif laugh.gif

don't expect tank aircond to be like your office aircond,its just there to keep you from passing out.you would still be sweating your balls off in normal circumstances
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QUOTE(heavyduty @ Feb 19 2015, 12:35 AM)
not when first bought,fitted with aircond now

water cooled jacket implies that it has water flowing through it,cool air from a small fridge at the back is blown through the vest,the vests helped 'a little bit' considering the temp could reach in excess of 100 degree celcius after firing  laugh.gif  laugh.gif

don't expect tank aircond to be like your office aircond,its just there to keep you from passing out.you would still be sweating your balls off in normal circumstances
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would be better than nothing laugh.gif

abrams? how also no?

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post Feb 19 2015, 12:45 AM

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QUOTE(kungfugymnast @ Feb 18 2015, 10:51 PM)
The most it could go is up to f-16e and typhoon level. These fighters have relatively small radome with very limited space. Check the F/A-18e/f radome, it is only slightly smaller than f-15 that it could house larger more powerful radar.

Russian PESA capability, the pantsir could track and engage bombs, missiles carried by fighters. The russian claim probably true that its PESA could detect and track these small targets. PESA is developed out of russian researchers conducting detection research on American aircrafts during bosnia and kosovo campaign.
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the Ebris-E PESA not that high tech actually, more like marketing talk, it can detection range very far, but just inaccurate detection, just like "hyperopia" but not sharp what they see. if very-very good T-50 or Mig35 wont use AESA radar any more.

QUOTE(kungfugymnast @ Feb 18 2015, 11:13 PM)
Today not in mrca list doesn't mean tomorrow won't. If i bought the mig35, i would carry mix us, russian & french armaments.

Air to air:
2x r77rvvaepd for long range, 2x aim120c5/7 medium range & 4x r74 short range.
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seems you just on dream ..... laugh.gif

This post has been edited by waja2000: Feb 19 2015, 01:22 AM
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post Feb 19 2015, 12:46 AM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Feb 19 2015, 12:37 AM)
would be better than nothing laugh.gif

abrams? how also no?
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some do,some do not

officially only the M1A2 SEP has AC for dem computers but the upgrade programme is not systematic so they have a mix of A1s and A2s that dont meet SEP standard but have aircond
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QUOTE(heavyduty @ Feb 19 2015, 12:35 AM)
not when first bought,fitted with aircond now

water cooled jacket implies that it has water flowing through it,cool air from a small fridge at the back is blown through the vest,the vests helped 'a little bit' considering the temp could reach in excess of 100 degree celcius after firing  laugh.gif  laugh.gif

don't expect tank aircond to be like your office aircond,its just there to keep you from passing out.you would still be sweating your balls off in normal circumstances
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would it kill the designers to create more comfort for the tank crews..? sweat.gif sweat.gif
is it that hard to create a cool n proper air conditioning system for a tank yawn.gif

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