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post Feb 18 2015, 07:29 PM

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QUOTE(MasBoleh! @ Feb 18 2015, 05:42 PM)
Woah Thank you bro.. for the comment.

Oh ya, why some Apache helicopter got the big round thing on top of the fan while some do not have?  hmm.gif 

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AH-64D has the mini radar on top the main rotor to give it detection capability of 10~20nm. You can use the radar to search for enemy tanks even if weather is foggy. Just Below the radar, there are visual FLIR that allows the Longbow to hide behind trees, walls, hills, buildings to peak at unsuspecting enemies then launch hellfire missiles while hidden.
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post Feb 18 2015, 07:34 PM

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QUOTE(kungfugymnast @ Feb 18 2015, 07:20 PM)
That's Singapore upgraded version of earlier leopard 2A4 with added extra Armour to side of tracks cover and for the turret's front, side and rear. The armour seems really thick, no other mbt extended the side to that much until it can add another set of wheels, return rollers & track on each side
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No that pic is really the Rheinmetall Leopard 2 MBT Revolution.

Rheinmetall Leopard 2 MBT Revolution video:



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SUSJames Bum
post Feb 18 2015, 07:58 PM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Feb 18 2015, 05:39 PM)
Need to balance between arming the army that might overthrow them

Or keep them well armed but not enough to overthrow the leadership 

In end, all back fired

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Alter constitution to allow state based paramilitary that are sort of well armed (not like RELA, think National Guard). That way your normal army will be much less inclined to overthrow the government or risk fighting their own countrymen
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post Feb 18 2015, 08:08 PM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Feb 18 2015, 11:41 AM)
As I said leasing gripen is a much better deals given our budget conditions.
gripen is lots better than f16 blk30.
migs 35 no thanks.
rafale momey is the problem.
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F16 only has block 50 onwards, they don't produce older f16s anymore except 2nd hand. That means Gripen tech is far behind f16s now.

What's wrong with mig35? It has advanced radar and can be made compatible with Americans and french armaments. They claim engine lifespan improved, won't repeat what happen to our migs
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post Feb 18 2015, 08:19 PM

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QUOTE(James Bum @ Feb 18 2015, 07:58 PM)
Alter constitution to allow state based paramilitary that are sort of well armed (not like RELA, think National Guard). That way your normal army will be much less inclined to overthrow the government or risk fighting their own countrymen
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can but 100% under state Sultan control, if under state government mati la. hari2 civil war if state gov and fed gov gaduh.
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post Feb 18 2015, 08:33 PM

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QUOTE(DA777 @ Feb 18 2015, 08:19 PM)
can but 100% under state Sultan control, if under state government mati la. hari2 civil war if state gov and fed gov gaduh.
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Ya something like that to have check and balance. I think Johor has but not to the scale of National Guard.
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post Feb 18 2015, 08:49 PM

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QUOTE(DA777 @ Feb 18 2015, 08:19 PM)
can but 100% under state Sultan control, if under state government mati la. hari2 civil war if state gov and fed gov gaduh.
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QUOTE(James Bum @ Feb 18 2015, 08:33 PM)
Ya something like that to have check and balance. I think Johor has but not to the scale of National Guard.
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QUOTE(trollboy @ Feb 18 2015, 08:40 PM)
Dont give sultan too much power
Maybe one or two thousand troops enough
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STOP

This is not the place nor time to discuss such far-fetched idea..


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post Feb 18 2015, 08:51 PM

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lelz, 3rd world country will fail with so many armies...
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post Feb 18 2015, 08:56 PM

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QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ Feb 18 2015, 08:49 PM)
STOP

This is not the place nor time to discuss such far-fetched idea..
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True also
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post Feb 18 2015, 09:14 PM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Feb 18 2015, 09:55 AM)
your just see too suface thing....
well radar not only see size, also how good is Rx/Tx module, what is power of each module. how good is on board computer process.

for BVR .... no need much maneuver, only alot maneuver in dogfight, and too sample to said Rafale will loose, AIM-120C7 is 120km range, but it have to fire at 70km max because you attack target will run also, that jet not waiting there at 120km waiting you to shoot. at fire missile more than 70km range successfull hit rate only at 40%. 100km just less than 20%. and 120km just base on strait line range. so went both jet close betwwen 50-90km, is up to who get the position to fire the missile first. pilot skill and experience, how good pilot interactive with fighter also very importance.
and F16E APG-80 no better than RBE-2AA actually, mostly about same.  and for Rafale/EF2000 soon will come with Meteor BVRAAM.
Other han that, our RMAF event can't get AIM-C7,only C5 we get. if we get F18, hopefully get C7, if not point get F18EF.
and nowdays jet figther also include IRST sensor to track target and fire missile, not necessary radar will turn ON. depend situation.

ground attack just Rafale best capability. it have 14 hardpoint and 9 tons+ payload.  more hardpoint/payload than than F18EF, at lease capability on pair with F18EF. both no issue on Close Air Support mission.
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When Amraam gets decreased effective range against agile fast fighters, the MICA too had the same range reduction. Check Falklands war, the British Harriers scored most of the air to air kills with Aim-9L (first all aspect IR guided) engaging Argentine mirages, etendards, skyhawks head on catching them by surprise as the argentineans were expecting to get by pass and dogfight.

Americans had more experience in detecting incoming missiles that they came up with radar incorporated RWR system. So aere the Russians who claimed their PESA has ability to track and shoot down air to air & SAM missiles like in stealth movie.

I would love to have russian and american fighters. The americans have buy back plan like car trade in if you bought from same manufacturer such as Boeing. RMAF could trade in their existing F/A-18D fleet for F/A-18F paying the remaining cash. Only downside of buying americans is lots of political rules to obey. French, brits, russians no trade in, have to sell at mudah 2nd hand.

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post Feb 18 2015, 09:22 PM

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QUOTE(azriel @ Feb 18 2015, 07:34 PM)
No that pic is really the Rheinmetall Leopard 2 MBT Revolution.

Rheinmetall Leopard 2 MBT Revolution video:


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Ok, didn't know they have such extra added armor upgrade to challenge challenger 2 advanced chobham gen5 armour and m-1a2sep.

War nowadays involving militants, think having thicker armour advanced IFV is more practical. You can deploy troops at the same time. Check Sulu invasion, getting attack helicopters and advanced IFV more relevant. Operating cost also much lower compared to fighter jets.

Fighter jets are actually most costly to maintain as they burn most fuel, required most maintenance before & after flight.
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post Feb 18 2015, 09:33 PM

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QUOTE(kungfugymnast @ Feb 18 2015, 09:14 PM)
When Amraam gets decreased effective range against agile fast fighters, the MICA too had the same range reduction. Check Falklands war, the British Harriers scored most of the air to air kills with Aim-9L (first all aspect IR guided) engaging Argentine mirages, etendards, skyhawks head on catching them by surprise as the argentineans were expecting to get by pass and dogfight.

Americans had more experience in detecting incoming missiles that they came up with radar incorporated RWR system. So aere the Russians who claimed their PESA has ability to track and shoot down air to air & SAM missiles like in stealth movie.

I would love to have russian and american fighters. The americans have buy back plan like car trade in if you bought from same manufacturer such as Boeing. RMAF could trade in their existing F/A-18D fleet for F/A-18F paying the remaining cash. Only downside of buying americans is lots of political rules to obey. French, brits, russians no trade in, have to sell at mudah 2nd hand.
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wait europe get there Meteor in production, than will be Rafale/EF2000 main BVRAAM. anyway recently USAF report said the AIM-120 easy to jam out there missile radar, so ask for new develop BVRAAM.
RMAF just pay alot money for upgrade F18D, so no way to trade in.
as your said, so many rule on Americans jet, so better dont buy it. brows.gif

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Rafale failed to secure $20bilion deal in India and Russia su31mki ready to take over ,
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post Feb 18 2015, 10:10 PM

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QUOTE(nikita zuleica @ Feb 18 2015, 09:46 PM)
Rafale failed to secure $20bilion deal in India and Russia su31mki ready to take over ,
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wait and see .... the deal.
$20 Billion just speculation, need to wait final deal (if go successfully)

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Feb 18 2015, 09:33 PM)
wait europe get there Meteor in production, than will be Rafale/EF2000 main BVRAAM. anyway recently USAF report said the AIM-120 easy to jam out there missile radar, so ask for new develop BVRAAM.
RMAF just pay alot money for upgrade F18D, so no way to trade in.
as your said, so many rule on Americans jet, so better dont buy it. brows.gif
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The meteor has further range than the rafale's radar maximum tracking range. Meaning that Rafale could only fully utilise the meteor with help from AWACS or GCI radar.

Americans had most experience in war knowing much how missile guidance works better. Russians got their experience by gathering feedback and report from allies syria, libya, iraq, serbia and also from 3rd party insurgents/militants. With help of russian researchers, the serbians managed to track and shoot down stealth F-117. French weapons have some success as proven in several wars.

The bosnian war displayed best result of french vs russian weapons before america intervened in later 1994. Result is french weapons not too advanced than russian weapons where french forces suffered high losses and failed to defeat serbian forces.

Mig-35 vs rafale, which do you prefer?
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