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 Proton PrevĂ© V22, Venturing into 3rd anniversary!

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post Apr 22 2015, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(nefashu @ Apr 22 2015, 11:46 AM)
For other than silver or white, you have to wait. I ordered red preve on Dec 2014, Got the car on end of March
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For your case. I guess because it's hard to get the 2014 Preve since it;s limited stock?
Cant be 3 months. Dat is scary sweat.gif

QUOTE(LalaluSan @ Apr 22 2015, 11:46 AM)
Did you tested out the executive cvt before making your choice? anyway, as i know silver preve is a hot model (but mostly only can see white preve on the road instead  rclxub.gif )
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I've tested the car but not on highway. Average 50kmph only.

My expectation is low for this car, i've read enough complain about the slow acceleration and cvt issues.

Was gonna buy Persona Premium but since Preve got discount, and Persona no discount at all i better take Preve la. I wont buy Persona SV.

Anyway the price after discount and 55% NCD is RM56k.
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post Apr 22 2015, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(maxizanc @ Apr 22 2015, 11:57 AM)
For your case. I guess because it's hard to get the 2014 Preve since it;s limited stock?
Cant be 3 months. Dat is scary sweat.gif
I change to 2015 model since all 2014 model is sold out. The SA say if silver or white can get it on January

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post Apr 22 2015, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(nefashu @ Apr 22 2015, 12:00 PM)
I change to 2015 model since all 2014 model is sold out. The SA say if silver or white can get it on January
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shit. Is it because they need some times to produce the 2015?

Is the year of the car means the year they start producing or on paper only?

I cant wait 3 months man sweat.gif

This post has been edited by maxizanc: Apr 22 2015, 12:07 PM
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post Apr 22 2015, 12:10 PM

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QUOTE(maxizanc @ Apr 22 2015, 11:57 AM)
I've tested the car but not on highway. Average 50kmph only.

My expectation is low for this car, i've read enough complain about the slow acceleration and cvt issues.

Was gonna buy Persona Premium but since Preve got discount, and Persona no discount at all i better take Preve la. I wont buy Persona SV.

Anyway the price after discount and 55% NCD is RM56k.
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The price is seriously good for a car like preve, but as you said the downside is very well known for this car (only if you are a heavy footer). Normal cruising work just fine for me for executive variant, but going up genting is kinda rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(LalaluSan @ Apr 22 2015, 12:10 PM)
The price is seriously good for a car like preve, but as you said the downside is very well known for this car (only if you are a heavy footer). Normal cruising work just fine for me for executive variant, but going up genting is kinda  rclxub.gif
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luckily im not a heavy footer.


eh but going up genting why u didnt change the gear? Or u did?
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post Apr 22 2015, 12:24 PM

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QUOTE(blackmaster @ Apr 21 2015, 11:33 PM)
Hi guys, wanna ask some question, is proton preve exec auto worth to buy? Currently in my area there is no car for test driving , so wondering how is the performance of the car ? and what is the fuel cost every KM? I'm only for normal use and run sales. Unfortunately premium is out of my budget...only considering persona or preve exec...please give me some advice , thanks
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You already received some responses and I'll add mine. If your expectations are low meaning you don't mind the slower pickup power, then the low-spec Preve should be fine for you. Just go to other Proton branch for a test drive if the Proton centre near your place does not have any test drive unit. In that way, you would know for yourself whether the car suits you or not. I would think in terms of specs the car is perfect and value buy. The only aspect is in the acceleration power which will affect drivability. As mentioned earlier if you can live with a slower pickup car, then the low-spec Preve should be fine. It is a value for money solid car for a mere RM55k+.

If you are considering this car, you would get full advantages in terms of safety and comfort. Fuel-wise, as with any C-segment car, fuel economy won't match smaller cars such as Axia, Myvi, City, Vios etc. but in its segment the fuel consumption is quite decent and expected given its size and weight.

ps. - Not too sure how much is the high-spec Preve Turbo after the price reduction but assuming it is between RM60k-65k I think this model should be in the shortlist if you are considering the low-spec Preve and can still stretch a bit. It is the most value for money car in the C-segment in my book as the added power in acceleration will bring a lot of difference to the driving experience and in everyday's drivability in city or highway drive.
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QUOTE(Anubis77 @ Apr 22 2015, 09:21 AM)
Engine knock can be heard with bare ears??? Interesting. As I understand it engine knocking occurs when the fuel and air mixture prematurely ignite in the combustion cylinder before the ignition cycle starts due to excessive heat from the engine and pressure. Stable fuels tend to be more stable when compressed at higher temperatures.

Also as with all hotter engines like turbos, the Ecu will counteract the knock before it happens. This is termed as knock retard. So as far as I know usually to detect engine knocking you need to datalog from the Ecu to look at th knock retard data and not hear it.
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The engine knocking is just a term in describing the knocking sound that is coming from the engine, and it is audible.
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post Apr 22 2015, 12:41 PM

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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Apr 22 2015, 12:25 PM)
The engine knocking is just a term in describing the knocking sound that is coming from the engine, and it is audible.
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IC. Then the noise is probably a consequence of mechanical friction or vibration noise from metal objects in the engine compartment. Not likely that petrol grade or brand will cause the knocking noise in the engine compartment.
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QUOTE(nefashu @ Apr 22 2015, 11:46 AM)
For other than silver or white, you have to wait. I ordered red preve on Dec 2014, Got the car on end of March
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Is it that long?
Firstly booking for Silver.
Then, my SA said.. end of April will get the car since Silver hot color and ask me to take red instead.
Since 1 apr = GST

Mine. ~2weeks.
Ordered 18th Mar 2015, got the car on 1 Apr 2015.
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QUOTE(Anubis77 @ Apr 22 2015, 12:41 PM)
IC. Then the noise is probably a consequence of mechanical friction or vibration noise from metal objects in the engine compartment. Not likely that petrol grade or brand will cause the knocking noise in the engine compartment.
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Yes, the noise sounds like it is friction or clashing or knocking of metal objects, in the engine compartment. However, in my experience different type of fuels have caused the severity of the knocking sound. The engine knocking comes up prominently only with Petronas fuel but not so with other types of fuel. Having said that, my findings are not consistent with some other users here who have experienced engine knocking with all types of fuel, and I don't have any explanation for that.
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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Apr 22 2015, 12:53 PM)
Yes, the noise sounds like it is friction or clashing or knocking of metal objects, in the engine compartment. However, in my experience different type of fuels have caused the severity of the knocking sound. The engine knocking comes up prominently only with Petronas fuel but not so with other types of fuel. Having said that, my findings are not consistent with some other users here who have experienced engine knocking with all types of fuel, and I don't have any explanation for that.
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On the contrary, when a couple of my friends and myself tested Petronas on tuned turbo cars, Petronas fuels (both 95 and 97) have the most stable qualities under high revs. We tested Shell (95 & VPower), Caltex 95 and Petron.

Not too sure what is causing the knocking sound. Sometimes the sound may be the tappets within the engine. But that is more clicking sound to me than knocking. If that is the case then perhaps have the mechanic look into the tappet clearance.

Other than that not sure the knocking sound you are referring to.
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QUOTE(maxizanc @ Apr 22 2015, 12:12 PM)
luckily im not a heavy footer.
eh but going up genting why u didnt change the gear? Or u did?
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Im driving manual preve sweat.gif gear 2 rev all the way... not sure about the ratio but gear 2 and 3 seems like too big differences hmm.gif
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QUOTE(27needles @ Apr 22 2015, 12:55 AM)
Just curious, how do you define 'knocking/pinging' sound on your Preve?

Cause I'm using Petronas since last year, and so far so good, in fact I feel Petronas gives me the best power, compared to Petron/Shell and Caltex. Shell being the worse, Petron slightly better than Shell. Caltex no comment, cause don't feel anything much, just the knowledge that Caltex cleans your engine.

The moment i hesitantly changed to Petronas (after friend's recommendation few months ago), never looked back.

So just curious on your 'knocking sound' definition .. Maybe it's actually the Campro engine's sound , which tends to be very low frequency/bassy (making you think it's knocking) ? Cause I do hear some "knocking" (for lack of a better word) sound during acceleration, but I never though much about it, because so far power is good, consistent, and no deterioration in performance.
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Not define, it's by hearing. Ignition pinging/knocking is not bassy sound.
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QUOTE(Anubis77 @ Apr 22 2015, 12:41 PM)
IC. Then the noise is probably a consequence of mechanical friction or vibration noise from metal objects in the engine compartment. Not likely that petrol grade or brand will cause the knocking noise in the engine compartment.
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The knocking sound is throttle and load dependent. So it isn't some random metal objects in engine bay.
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QUOTE(Anubis77 @ Apr 22 2015, 01:04 PM)
On the contrary, when a couple of my friends and myself tested Petronas on tuned turbo cars, Petronas fuels (both 95 and 97) have the most stable qualities under high revs. We tested Shell (95 & VPower), Caltex 95 and Petron.

Not too sure what is causing the knocking sound. Sometimes the sound may be the tappets within the engine. But that is more clicking sound to me than knocking. If that is the case then perhaps have the mechanic look into the tappet clearance.

Other than that not sure the knocking sound you are referring to.
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For Campro, there is nothing that you can do for tappet clearance unlike engines of yesteryear. It is self adjusting until the component itself needs replacement.
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QUOTE(mengsuan @ Apr 22 2015, 01:20 PM)
The knocking sound is throttle and load dependent. So it isn't some random metal objects in engine bay.
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I think so too. Perhaps this can be solved with better motor mounts?
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QUOTE(Anubis77 @ Apr 22 2015, 01:22 PM)
I think so too. Perhaps this can be solved with better motor mounts?
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If it is engine mount that makes noise, how do you explain that my engine does not knock when driving in cool weather, or if I use RON97 the knocks would reduce?

Just like all others, I had little beliefs that a modern engine with ECU and knock sensor has knocks. I don't even have knocking when I was driving my persona with bolt on turbo. But the fact is, some CFE engine knocks. I can't be bothered anymore, just drive it.
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QUOTE(maxizanc @ Apr 22 2015, 12:03 PM)
shit. Is it because they need some times to produce the 2015?

Is the year of the car means the year they start producing or on paper only?

I cant wait 3 months man sweat.gif
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The year refer to production year. So if you buy 2014 model and register it on 2015, it still count as 2014 model.

Car is produce by batch. For example, they may produce white batch first, then other color. That is what SA told me.

Since all the 2014 model is sold out, I have to wait for 2015 batch. But it seems like they only produce white and silver as the first batch.

One of other reason the SA told me is, proton factory busy manufacture IRIZ. So quota for Preve is limited

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QUOTE(xphr3ak @ Apr 22 2015, 12:49 PM)
Is it that long?
Firstly booking for Silver.
Then, my SA said.. end of April will get the car since Silver hot color and ask me to take red instead.
Since 1 apr = GST

Mine. ~2weeks.
Ordered 18th Mar 2015, got the car on 1 Apr 2015.
Fire Red @ Senawang Proton Edar

Thanks.
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I also received my red preve end of march. just a few days before GST biggrin.gif

Waiting Proton to produce Red batch for 3 month. Before that, my agent keep spamming me to take silver or white.

This post has been edited by nefashu: Apr 22 2015, 01:42 PM
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good thing im still waiting for my number plate. actually after close tender d. needa wait how long before the results is released?

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