QUOTE(ntw @ Feb 15 2015, 02:05 PM)
welcome all mechanical keyboard users but teach them about differentiating between the good quality ones and bad ones. why the separation into bling2/gaming vs typist keyboard? both are still mechanical keyboard?
well if you go for a double shot keycap mkb, you'll tend to miss out on the led lighting, but in return you get very nice contrast on your keyprints.
alternatively if you go for led lighted keyboards, the clarity is also good but depending on the quality of the led in question. it's also very cool.
You can't go wrong with either, but the former is more of a classic look, and the later a futuristic bling look.
I do think in MKB there are sub groups of different preferences, but ultimately if it has a mechanical switch (yes including topres) then their all essentional mkbs.
Everything else like led lighting, keycap type, build material, media and gaming features are all just icing on top of it
QUOTE(ntw @ Feb 15 2015, 02:05 PM)
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lu tak suka, lu keluar mindset is bad for a enthusiast community; we are trying to poison educate more people not make they confuse and chase them away
just to share my own opinion. Regardless of whether someone is right or wrong, it's less condusive to end a discussion by telling others they have no place here.
from what i've seen the mkb club thread has way fewer trolls e.g. optiplex from the real world forum who goes around trolling day in day out talking bunch of garbage. i don't see that in this thread, so in my honest opinion, we should discuss/debate and learn through who made the more valid argument and leave it at that. lets not resort to name calling just we disagree
QUOTE(ntw @ Feb 15 2015, 02:05 PM)
Kailh is not the only one manufacturing replica switches. Gateron for one is making replica LINEAR switches with similar if not superior quality
oo i wasn't aware of that. Would be interesting if there was an article comparing cherry, kalih, gateron and topre switches
QUOTE(Patent @ Feb 15 2015, 09:13 AM)
So pom is as durable as pbt but smoother?
pom is more resistant to oily slick, browning compared to pbt. so in this order. but is harder to work with, so some pom keyboards especially the keycaps, sometimes you need to pay particularly close attention, just in case they add lots of weird bumps
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Polyoxymethylene (POM), also known as acetal,[1] polyacetal and polyformaldehyde, is an engineering thermoplastic used in precision parts requiring high stiffness, low friction and excellent dimensional stability. As with many other synthetic polymers, it is produced by different chemical firms with slightly different formulas and sold variously by such names as Delrin, Celcon, Ramtal, Duracon, Kepital and Hostaform.
Typical applications for injection-molded POM include high performance engineering components such as small gear wheels, ball bearings, ski bindings, fasteners, knife handles, and lock systems. The material is widely used in the automotive and consumer electronics industry.
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Properties[edit]
POM is characterized by its high strength, hardness and rigidity to −40 °C. POM is intrinsically opaque white, due to its high crystalline composition, but it is available in all colors. POM has a density of ρ = 1.410–1.420 g/cm³.[5]
POM homopolymer is a semi-crystalline polymer (75–85% crystalline) with a melting point of 175 °C. The POM copolymer has a slightly lower melting point of 162–173 °C.
POM is a tough material with a very low coefficient of friction. However, it is susceptible to polymer degradation catalyzed by acids, which is why it is stabilized - both the homopolymer and the copolymer have chain end groups (introduced via end capping) that resist depolymerization. With the copolymer, the second unit is normally a C2 (ethylene glycol) or C4 (1,4-butanediol) unit, which is introduced via its cyclic acetal (which can be made from the diol and formaldehyde) or cyclic ether (e.g. ethylene oxide). These units resist chain cleavage, because the O-linkage is now no longer an acetal group, but an ether linkage, which is stable to hydrolysis. POM is sensitive to oxidation, and an anti-oxidant is normally added to molding grades of the material.
POM advantages:
High abrasion resistance
Low coefficient of friction
High heat resistance
Good electrical and dielectric properties
Low water absorption
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyoxymethylenenotice the low friction, guess that would explain the difference when typing on say pom, pbt as the feel is different.
most of my keys are abs so they have a slight shine look, and does feel like it's lost it's texture from high usage. but that said it's not as bad as my old logitech g15v1, because those keycaps had disgustingly high amounts of shine, not to mention the printings had faded away. no issue on my double shot abs :}
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ABS (Acrylonitrile butadiene styrene)
ABS is the most common plastic used in keycap manufacturing, and also one of the most common plastics used for consumer goods in general, including LEGOs, storage bins, etc. As a keycap material, ABS is cheap, strong, and easy to manufacture, so replacement ABS keycap sets are usually the most affordable option available.
Legends on ABS keys can be pad printed, laser etched/engraved, doubleshot, or UV printed, which have varying degrees of wear resistance (more on this below). ABS keycaps come in a variety of thicknesses, and most keyboard enthusiasts agree that thicker keycaps are more desirable due to their heftier feel, deeper sound, and overall quality.
Criticism of ABS keycaps usually focuses on their susceptibility to “shine.” Constant touching in combination with caustic skin oils can cause ABS keycaps to lose their texture in as quickly as a few months. Many keyboardists dislike the resulting “shininess” and smoothness, often saying that shiny ABS keycaps feel greasy. Additionally, some of the most common legend printing methods used with ABS caps, such as laser etching and pad printing, are susceptible to wearing off along with the surface texture.
Stock keycaps that come with new mechanical keyboards are almost always ABS unless specifically advertised otherwise.
i use my ducky mkb's original pbt space bar which i very much prefer compared to a abs one
*i do detect a hint of shine, and loss of texture, but it's not enough to be a big deal for me
Anyway this is a very good article on keycaps
http://www.keychatter.com/keycaps/This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Feb 15 2015, 07:26 PM 
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