ref. to the pic with crossover, need xpert advise here
i have alpine 9870e with 1 preout.
should i be getting e-xover in order to use a 4ch amp?
i was told by a shop that i need to use preamp because my HU only got 1 preout

How do i get a bass sound without using sub?

Guys, im a newbie on this (ICE)...

I just bought and fixed a HU Sony CDX-GT470US and
a set of DLS Classic series B6A is a 16,5 cm (6,5") 2-way system for my Proton Gen.2.

If I want a decent setup, what should I buy after this? Please advice.

Thank you in advance...

Just get an amp to power ur comps & finally fine tune to suits ur taste....& probably add an amp + sub...

i was curious of this also...how can i get low bass without using sub? 6x9 can do?

6x9 can. i have heard a friend kancil using carrozzeria (i dont know if the speeling correct) 4 way 6x9.. can hear 'stub-stub' from distance. I taught he is using sub. the down side is the sound is mixed.. u dont have clean bass.

i also have this boschmann 6.5" woofer (can hear stub2 from outside already), which i use for few weeks before i upgrade to 8" boschmann woofer.. that 6.5 very nice, u can fit it at the rear without much work as the size is standard.. its going for sale at RM100 for one pair (2pcs) (got punctured on the surround by previous installer which i didnt realize, but still can repair).. any buyers?

got some question:
is that 2ch amp only can connect to 2 sets of component
can a 2ch amp drive 4 sets of component (2 set front 2 set rear)
how many amp can be install to a HU

how many amp can be installed depends on ur HU, some HU comes with 1 preout, some comes with 2 or even 3...
hope this helps...

erm i need some help here,currently driving new saga,now i plan to install 5 inch speaker on my door side panel,isit necessary to put a amp?the 5 inch speaker compatible wit the original speaker at rear?isit necessary to do cross over?thx in advance

p/s:not a bass fan

This post has been edited by Wuakaka: Apr 23 2008, 12:21 PM

If juz speaker no need unless u wan better sound... for normal listening it's more than enough from the original HU. If u have budget and wan better sound quality, get a component system and an amp, if wan better bass can install 6x9 at the rear for extra bass. i recommend u blaupunkt GTA-480 4ch amp or Boschmann amp, these r available in a lot of place, for starters these amps quite ok. The speakers juz go according to ur budget la, Boschmann quite cheap and quite gud for starters. Hope this help.

if after install my 5 inch speaker at side door panel,and oni get an amp,it will make any difference?coz i am planning to put a 2 way or 3 way speaker at the back,wan slowly push up,but no budget now,so put amp 1st,isit possible?thx ya,appreciate it very much

wuakaka, if u planning to install a cheap set of capalang speakers, i dun think it will be much use with amp, yea maybe slightly better than stock speakers. From my experience, i did big mistake and wasted money by installing lousy speakers up front, a capalang 6.5" midbass + a fake focal tweeter. i recommend u to do a mounting job for 6.5" up front, like i did with my own car, it was 5" originally, just add a piece of wood customised to ur door panel, i think most installers can do dat. For me 5" speakers not enuf kick for me. Unless u r ICE fanatic, get a set of component system up front that cost around rm1000. I saw a few forumer selling branded compo at less than 1k. get a 4ch amp and power the front and rear. If u dun plan to change ur HU, i think any compo system around 500 will do for u, cos HU very important in ICE, a lot of diff. For the rear speakers, i dun recommend u to spend too much on it unless u wanna show off. 3 most important stuffs in setting ur own sound stage, 1st $$$, 2nd A piece of gud HU, amp and front compo sets, lastly a gud installer that will advice u nicely on how to set up a nice system according to ur budget and car. PM me if u wanna know more, will be glad to share info and make new friends, cheers.

oh man,pioneer TSG1347 5" speaker + TST120 200W tweeter i ordered reach my house ad,i cant give it back already,

anyway thank you very much,nice to meet u

im not very interested in heavy ICE setup....
but need a better sound quality then my standard ice system
now im using saga lmst with clarion standard HU....
planning to install caplang component set only, or caplang compinent set with amp.
my question is, can i install my component speaker at back of my car?
coz i dont want to cut my door panel.....
is the position at back of the car can give better sound quality then standard speaker setting???

nope.... u dunwan the singer singing from the back and not ur front i say stick to ur original speaker if ur not cutting ur door and planning to put ur comps @ the back. Alternatively find a component tat fits ur front.

i think it should not be a prob for me if the singer singing from my back.....
if the bass n mid is ok, it still ok with me........
coz im not heavy fan of ICE setting,
but need a nice n better sound then a standard sound from standard ice in my saga lmst
the standard sound make me really 'sakit telinga'
i just want a little more bass n mid in my ice....

my prob is, is i put component speaker at rear, can i get better sound than my standard, or it will produce a same result(same sound quality)???

it all depends on ur budget, if u get a rm200 speakers, and rm300 amp, maybe it will sound slightly better but for sure louder.

another question.......
how to choose correct Watt??
let say, my HU support 200watt (4x50watt)....
so, how many watt must i choose for my component set???
can it support component set with 200 watt???
let say i dont want to use any amp yet(low budget maaa)...........

if low budget, that's another story d. u will go for a different setup. Look for a speaker set that has hi sensitivity, more than 90dB is gud enough. As for wattage look for one that has less than 100W RMS. This is for ampless setup. But ithink it's not worth it to change cos ur Bose should be doing gud enough. Cos without amp, sound wun be that loud and clear.

i also think so.
erm...... if i buy cheap amp, would it be ok???
what i must consider if want to buy amp????