normally what is it in a component set?? 2 tweeters, 2 crossovers and 2 speakers?? then got woofer not?

This post has been edited by ggoo: Jul 8 2008, 10:20 PM

subwoofer none, onli 2 tweets, 2 mid bass and 2 x-over.

whats a mid bass?? speakers?? then if just say i'm using a stock myvi ... then i change my either 2 rear or 2 front to the mid bass?? am i right? but sometimes i see.. some component comes with a woofer right?

a component can come in 2 way or 3 way component

2 way - 2 tweets + 2 midbass + 2 passive x-over
3way- an additional midrange

no woofer at all

hmmm whats a midbass?? jut a normal speakers right? and whats a midrange?

mid bass is a term... same like woofer? or sub woofer? they are still 'speakers' in general.. juz that they play different frequency.

some ppl refer midbass as 6.5'. Some call it woofer.it's just personal preference but just need to make yourself clear. It's typically a 6 or 5 inches speaker.

i want to know la.. i wanna upgrade my ICE now.. im sing Rogers Comp for front and MA Audio for rear.. and im using Pioneer DEH-P6850MP..

i plan to add a 4channel amp, 2 channel to tweeter and 2 channel to mid bass.. and let the rear to play as it is tru the HU amp.. ok ka..? can or not?

Can but it might be a waste if u play active on those sets.

i cant play active i think.. no active crossover for my HU.. i think im stucked in passive setup already.. haha.. can any1 guide me in passive ICE setup.. i know the basic setup but need more detailed help.. as in what other stuff so 1 need like pre-amp, electronic crossover or sumthing else..

basically passive setup is very simple. juz plug n play. U juz need an amp to power ur passives to get better SQ. some x-overs can let u set the tweeter lvls, depending on ur requirement. Mo need add pre amp and others, electronic x-overs r mostly for active setup.

owh.. okok.. this is my setup now la..

Alpine MRV-F340 4 chan amp (2 chan tweeter, 2 chan mid bass)
Rogers RG65 front comp set
Pioneer DEH-P6850MP
MA Audio mid bass for rear
Monster cable 4 channel RCA cable

and now i plan get a 2chan amp and a woofer. i not sure which amp i should go for but im aiming for RF punch P1 12" woofer oredy la.

stratos,

I am using the same component, Rogers RG65. How is the sound before and after u install the amp? wondering if there is huge amount of improvement in SQ (but i suspect u never use the component without amp one)

i did use it without the amp b4.. the sound really have huge differences.. the Rogers tweeters are good with amp.. without amp its just too sharp/high pitch if u do notice..

The mid bass, produces nice tone with or without amp so tats tat..

B4 and after installation of amp makes huge differences.. definitely different.

Make sure u get the tweeters on the angle, sound staging..

Im using this comp set wiht alpine v12 amps la.. 55Wx4 only..

i see.. if huge different worth considering to add amp for this nice comp. i must say, it is best value comp that i had heard so far. yeah, the tweet are a bit too sharp.. i set my treble to -2. it will be nice if the amp can improve this

mid bass, is there any huge improvement? i was hoping to get more mid bass out of this comp

dun expect much from Roger's mid.. in bass factor roger's mid cannot perform well, if ur those who listen to soft songs, classical then its ok.. for a bit trance or techno cannot liau..

im planning to change my front comp set after adding my woofers.. will got for higher end models oredy..

first of all....
have u all check where is lacking?

alot of people complain here lacking and there lacking

first of all....i would check the current setup
who says roger mids not good? aint saying its bad or good...
factors to consider
what is current high pass and low pass?
have u installed the mid bass correctly?
have u sound proofed the door and how did u do it?
have you checked the phase?

so again...by asking certain portion no point...some hardwares just dont match with each other...but 70% of the time is due to bad tuning and installation

i suggest u guys put down what is ur current system and how it was setup
at least that can point to clearer pictures

just asking bout is this good or is this going to be better...its hard to imagine lor

based on ur previous posting....
stratos...here r my comments

Alpine MRV-F340 4 chan amp (2 chan tweeter, 2 chan mid bass)
Rogers RG65 front comp set
Pioneer DEH-P6850MP
MA Audio mid bass for rear
Monster cable 4 channel RCA cable

this is how i'm going to setup above hardware
1. set HU to pure flat and turn off every feature including EQ, loudness and watever bass/treble enhancement

2. wire channel 1/2 to front comps passive. remove rear speakers

3. sound proof front doors and custom the mdf speaker holders. if got budget go for custom metal ring to hold the mids.

4. change to monster cable rca to something more clean. suggest hisago, wireworld, chord and many other. Monster Cables for sub is good but not front comps.

5. custom make the sub box and i will recommend JL W1V2 which is about RM400. Power requirement is about 150watts. Make sealed box about 1.3cuft to 1.5cuft. after they make the box, use silicon sealent to seal all the joints. make sure no air leakage. can bridge channel 3/4 to whack the subs.

6. put all round 4gauge cables with proper fuses. add caps if u got budget

7. lastly if got budget...change to more powerful amps. i suppose the mrv-340 is about 55watts rms only. u may wanna consider amps like mrv-540 or genesis profile 4 ultra. of coz ultimates like Brax, McIntosh or PHD would be even nicer

am suspecting ur current amp not enough juice to drive all the speakers. one way to go active with adding ext xover or change to better HU like Clarion HX-D2.
the other way is customizing ur own passives...but u hv to check with rta to see the graph first
if i were u...i would maintain HU. get a 2 channel amps for the front...say 120watts to 150watts x 2 channel and get a monoblock for the sub.

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Added on August 7, 2008, 12:41 ammid bass refers to a driver that produces somewhere from 4khz to 40hz range. thats y is a combination of mids and bass.
depending on the voice coil, basket, cone material, rubber linings, depth of cone and many factors...that will determine the range played

you can actually check through Scanspeaks, Vifa speakers...each speaker..they will show you the frequency response graph so that people can start matching tweets to complete the range

example

tweets play from 3Khz -12db slope high pass to about 25khz or maybe more
mids play from 3khz -12db slope low pass to about 50hz high pass
to complete the range....u need subwoofer...which carries more surface on the speaker to create very low frequency from 50hz to 20hz range

our ears can sense from 20hz to 20khz...so above is a rough guideline how to achieve full frequency hearing

This post has been edited by hushymushy: Aug 7 2008, 12:50 AM

@hushymushy.. thanks a lot.. i'm selling off my amp now.. plan to get high Watt amp lor.. 55wx4 really too little oredy..

amp RCA cable now using StreetWires LC series lo.. still cheap cables, saving up for more stuff..

maybe you can try this old skool amp..
http://www.zerotohundred.com/newforums/ice...-amplifier.html

phoenix gold amp ar.. i need help in my passive setup lor.. still thinking wanna move to active setup or not..