I hate international break sigh
English Clubs Liverpool Kop Talk 2014, Newcastle-1, Liverpool-0
English Clubs Liverpool Kop Talk 2014, Newcastle-1, Liverpool-0
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Oct 6 2014, 07:43 PM
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I hate international break sigh
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Oct 6 2014, 08:09 PM
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QUOTE(melt @ Oct 6 2014, 04:03 PM) Yes Matic, he can be consider as one of the best DM currently. Everyone in Chelsea moves forward to attack and retreat to defends at a unit and they have discipline and coaching to teach them how. That's why Mata was sold coz you can't see him at his own half most of the time.As for Chelsea tactic, they defence as a team where their work rate is incredible. Last season you dont see Oscar throwing his body or even running up and down to protect the defence but now its totally different. As a fan I dont mind my team winning ugly as well as long as we get 3pts |
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Oct 6 2014, 08:28 PM
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QUOTE(farisq @ Oct 6 2014, 06:06 PM) Even if we do the same (although at the moment we are not capable) I can see some fan will not be satisfied. I watched the whole Chel-Ars game yesterday. Overall I can say that Chelsea approach is defensive... I know some of our fan will not be happy with that approach more so when playing at home. This season they have the right person to play lone striker upfront so not surprising they can play defensive and get all 3 points. That's the difference between this season and last season Clean sheet is one of most important aspect of winning, be it league or cup competition.The team at top normally has the best or better record of goal conceded. If a match stick at 0-0 at midway or at 80 min, you still have chance to win it and nick it win 1-0, get 3 points or progress in cup competition. But it cannot be said the same when you conceded 2 goals just after 10 min, (just like against WH), with trailing 2-0, it is mountain to climb. Look at Chelsea, when they score first, you know they are highly will win the match, but when Liv scored, you worry when the team will concede goal again and losing. So far, since the season started, BR also play with lone striker... Result is the most important aspect in today football, be it defensive or offensive. Any system that can lead the team collect 3 points week in week out, then this is the best system. I bet no fan will complain a match is ultra boring if their team is collecting 3 points every week. |
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Oct 6 2014, 08:29 PM
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Oct 6 2014, 08:53 PM
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QUOTE(farisq @ Oct 6 2014, 07:06 PM) Even if we do the same (although at the moment we are not capable) I can see some fan will not be satisfied. I watched the whole Chel-Ars game yesterday. Overall I can say that Chelsea approach is defensive... I know some of our fan will not be happy with that approach more so when playing at home. This season they have the right person to play lone striker upfront so not surprising they can play defensive and get all 3 points. That's the difference between this season and last season A blue fan commented it's mourino 1.0 of the old. Noted it's also very rafa'ish (defensive first) But we have gone this path before (debate). Many prefer the attacking first style. I saw the scruff between mourino & wenger. Tsk. It doesn't look good on wenger's part. |
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Oct 6 2014, 09:18 PM
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Oct 6 2014, 09:33 PM
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QUOTE(melt @ Oct 6 2014, 04:03 PM) Yes Matic, he can be consider as one of the best DM currently. I guess most fans would prefer winning but I would rather see my team win beautifully or at least be proactive instead of reactive. I understand Mourinho wins games but I've never enjoyed watching his team play, neither did I enjoy Woy's Liverpool or to a certain extent even Rafa's Liverpool apart from 09-10.As for Chelsea tactic, they defence as a team where their work rate is incredible. Last season you dont see Oscar throwing his body or even running up and down to protect the defence but now its totally different. As a fan I dont mind my team winning ugly as well as long as we get 3pts If all I want is for my team to win then I have no reason to watch them live on TV. I just have to open Livescore to check if we win at full time. When times are desperate though winning trumps everything. I'm sure Arsenal fans would give everything to have them win again instead of playing beautifully without winning. |
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Oct 6 2014, 09:37 PM
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QUOTE(koolspyda @ Oct 6 2014, 08:53 PM) A blue fan commented it's mourino 1.0 of the old. Noted it's also very rafa'ish (defensive first) I feel for Wenger. He got trolled by Mourinho for years. Even Buddha has his limits.But we have gone this path before (debate). Many prefer the attacking first style. I saw the scruff between mourino & wenger. Tsk. It doesn't look good on wenger's part. |
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Oct 6 2014, 10:03 PM
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Oct 7 2014, 10:45 AM
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Oct 7 2014, 11:38 AM
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QUOTE(augkyos @ Oct 7 2014, 10:45 AM) I like the idea of G going forward, that will make our midfield and forwards more lively connected(sigh... still need G to link everyone up). But with condition, can't let Lucas play DM anymore, else i will be pressing INJ number every single time Lucas touches the ball. |
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Oct 7 2014, 12:04 PM
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besides ur kapitan + lucas leiva, who else can do their role as defensive minded midfielder?? can't find ur squad details in 1st post.
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Oct 7 2014, 12:19 PM
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Oct 7 2014, 12:22 PM
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QUOTE(yeelong @ Oct 7 2014, 11:38 AM) I like the idea of G going forward, that will make our midfield and forwards more lively connected(sigh... still need G to link everyone up). But with condition, can't let Lucas play DM anymore, else i will be pressing INJ number every single time Lucas touches the ball. Current squad. Lucas do the job. Else just don't deploy DM, use Henderson play deeper but not DM role |
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Oct 7 2014, 12:29 PM
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QUOTE(yeelong @ Oct 7 2014, 12:19 PM) who is ah chan?? ur kapitano shud not be heavily involved in 1st team liaw. shud be backup role edi. 34yo edi leh...still wan him running up N down meh. lucas is never the same fler before that horrific injury (i maybe wrong on this one). current crop of players, i oni see hendo capable of filling ur kapitan shoes' role in shielding the back four aka defensive midfielder role. no komen on the other midfield players. |
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Oct 7 2014, 12:33 PM
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QUOTE(sinoffire @ Oct 7 2014, 12:29 PM) who is ah chan?? Emra Can. He has the physical tools to become one. it's up to him to moot himself into one.ur kapitano shud not be heavily involved in 1st team liaw. shud be backup role edi. 34yo edi leh...still wan him running up N down meh. lucas is never the same fler before that horrific injury (i maybe wrong on this one). current crop of players, i oni see hendo capable of filling ur kapitan shoes' role in shielding the back four aka defensive midfielder role. no komen on the other midfield players. |
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Oct 7 2014, 02:16 PM
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Oct 7 2014, 02:17 PM
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Oct 7 2014, 02:18 PM
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Oct 7 2014, 02:22 PM
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