QUOTE(ManutdGiggs @ Sep 21 2014, 01:56 PM)
a hard nut to crack..... Goodview heights @ sg Long south, DSL 22 X75, 22 X80 and more
Goodview heights @ sg Long south, DSL 22 X75, 22 X80 and more
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 21 2014, 01:58 PM) 8 months vp, you can only flip if developers sold off their units, if not how to flip? look at OUG parklane, those boys need to trail behind developers price by at least 30k.. u need to learn how to value "time"....... "time" is "money"..... there are many ppl willing to spent more to "save time"..... flippers cannot be flipping 200k immediately 8 months vp, their price cannot surpass or the same with 2nd phase. must be lower at a margin of 50k above at least, sumore you got full hit by 30% RPGT if you sell so. lets say SHL launching 2nd phase at 200k extra (highly unlikely) which bring minimum selling price to 928k, a leap of 200k jolokia bought at 728k, next year vp (May 2015) - want to sell at what price? a) 928k ppl ask you to go fly kite b) 828k ( possibly, that is provided developers are selling 200k more than 1st phase) even 828 k was sold, jolokia got screwed by 30% RPGT, 2% lock in if any, and other expenses, easily can touch 50k gone.. left remaining of 50k (65k is just too much) if you are trying to sell nearing 928k, cannot be too near, your 1st phase is sub sales, no S&P included, no stamp duty included, all these sub sales cost cause around 40k, the most 1st phase can go is 880k, that is provided developers taking a 200k leap from 1st phase launch.. This post has been edited by AppreciativeMan: Sep 21 2014, 02:09 PM |
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Sep 21 2014, 02:10 PM
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QUOTE(AppreciativeMan @ Sep 21 2014, 02:08 PM) u need to learn how to value "time"....... "time" is "money"..... there are many ppl willing to spent more to "save time"..... :w :w It's true. Easy to tell. Hard to implement. Tats y all self claimed prop gurus r Toking kok nia. V hav bro bear here. Good view is gd. But he is not buying. Merely defending for fun nia. |
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Sep 21 2014, 02:14 PM
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QUOTE(ManutdGiggs @ Sep 21 2014, 02:10 PM) It's true. Easy to tell. Hard to implement. Tats y all self claimed prop gurus r Toking kok nia. V hav bro bear here. Good view is gd. But he is not buying. Merely defending for fun nia. Bear is notndefending for fun, bear is th sales person for SHL good view heights...just a lousy sales guy who try to earn commision so can earn some to buy a house to avoid continue rent at maluri low cost flat...bear very old oledy still rent maluri low cost flat while see surrounded freinds oledy upgrade to landed or nice condo by flipping properties...thats why bear become not balance in heart... |
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Sep 21 2014, 02:24 PM
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 21 2014, 01:58 PM) 8 months vp, you can only flip if developers sold off their units, if not how to flip? look at OUG parklane, those boys need to trail behind developers price by at least 30k.. I told you laio mah, buying from flipper get instant VP, buy from developer another year (not sure phase 2 will be that fast), sime people can wait some people can't, some willing to pay to get things fast, like now iphone 6 got people willing ro pay 5-8K just to get it few months earlier, you call that stupid but still there is such market.flippers cannot be flipping 200k immediately 8 months vp, their price cannot surpass or the same with 2nd phase. must be lower at a margin of 50k above at least, sumore you got full hit by 30% RPGT if you sell so. lets say SHL launching 2nd phase at 200k extra (highly unlikely) which bring minimum selling price to 928k, a leap of 200k jolokia bought at 728k, next year vp (May 2015) - want to sell at what price? a) 928k ppl ask you to go fly kite b) 828k ( possibly, that is provided developers are selling 200k more than 1st phase) even 828 k was sold, jolokia got screwed by 30% RPGT, 2% lock in if any, and other expenses, easily can touch 50k gone.. left remaining of 50k (65k is just too much) if you are trying to sell nearing 928k, cannot be too near, your 1st phase is sub sales, no S&P included, no stamp duty included, all these sub sales cost cause around 40k, the most 1st phase can go is 880k, that is provided developers taking a 200k leap from 1st phase launch.. Don't forget 730K is another market compare to 288K OUG parklane, these people have plenty of $$ to hold it vacant. BTW how long can you or shall I said future Mrs Bear2 can wait ? another man who can afford a 730K property not hard to find for a lawyer hoh. .lol |
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Sep 21 2014, 02:46 PM
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QUOTE(jolokia @ Sep 21 2014, 02:24 PM) I told you laio mah, buying from flipper get instant VP, buy from developer another year (not sure phase 2 will be that fast), sime people can wait some people can't, some willing to pay to get things fast, like now iphone 6 got people willing ro pay 5-8K just to get it few months earlier, you call that stupid but still there is such market. buying from flipper dont get valuation and post so much hardship, no legal fees stamp duties.. maybe you are different to get instant vp compared to built and sell scheme.. sign now next year vp..Don't forget 730K is another market compare to 288K OUG parklane, these people have plenty of $$ to hold it vacant. BTW how long can you or shall I said future Mrs Bear2 can wait ? another man who can afford a 730K property not hard to find for a lawyer hoh. .lol ana analogy of buying I phone 5 or 6 is not accurate to picture the real property market, these group of buyers like I phone are being introduced by packages (similar to what of a DIBS in property) low entry, products goes out, debt is bound.. and buying phone is like 1 or 2 years of commitment still need package to help, properties goes to few hundred thousands you say they can fork out enough, even they do (and even they pass their loans), ability to service? it is 35 years.. and OPR are goes by quarterly review per year.. OUG aprklane are sold off at 288k to 320k now 420k, are made out strong cash? and that is what you want us to believe so? so it become a personal attack? |
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Sep 21 2014, 02:47 PM
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[quote=doomdoom,Sep 21 2014, 02:14 PM]
Bear is notndefending for fun, bear is th sales person for SHL good view heights...just a lousy sales guy who try to earn commision so can earn some to buy a house to avoid continue rent at maluri low cost flat...bear very old oledy still rent maluri low cost flat while see surrounded freinds oledy upgrade to landed or nice condo by flipping properties...thats why bear become not balance in heart... [/quote still sales agent geh? and old dim? |
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QUOTE(doomdoom @ Sep 21 2014, 02:14 PM) Bear is notndefending for fun, bear is th sales person for SHL good view heights...just a lousy sales guy who try to earn commision so can earn some to buy a house to avoid continue rent at maluri low cost flat...bear very old oledy still rent maluri low cost flat while see surrounded freinds oledy upgrade to landed or nice condo by flipping properties...thats why bear become not balance in heart... |
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QUOTE(AppreciativeMan @ Sep 21 2014, 01:53 PM) jolokia switch camp probably also cannot tahan such teammate woh..... :P :P Better change camp. One will end up chi 9 lan sin trying to defend some nonsense teammate.. :P :Palways misfiring or shooting wrong target.... :lol: :lol: u sure u wants to be in one team with bbw?.... :hehe: :hehe: This post has been edited by CloudAtla$: Sep 21 2014, 04:13 PM |
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Sep 21 2014, 05:07 PM
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You guys thing Sg Long is good meh? i really dont think so..
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Sep 21 2014, 05:34 PM
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 21 2014, 02:46 PM) buying from flipper dont get valuation and post so much hardship, no legal fees stamp duties.. maybe you are different to get instant vp compared to built and sell scheme.. sign now next year vp.. Same mah ! IPhone 6 not yet official available in Malaysia, so people go & employed people to line up & to anyone who can afford to pay 5-8K for it, isn't it same as property ? these people go line up pay deposits & wait for 1 year then sell to you at 800K is it ? Yourself already said that's peanuts profit after RPGT, same line go line up few days buy iPhone 6 sent all the way to Malaysia to see you with RM 100 extra is it ?ana analogy of buying I phone 5 or 6 is not accurate to picture the real property market, these group of buyers like I phone are being introduced by packages (similar to what of a DIBS in property) low entry, products goes out, debt is bound.. and buying phone is like 1 or 2 years of commitment still need package to help, properties goes to few hundred thousands you say they can fork out enough, even they do (and even they pass their loans), ability to service? it is 35 years.. and OPR are goes by quarterly review per year.. OUG aprklane are sold off at 288k to 320k now 420k, are made out strong cash? and that is what you want us to believe so? so it become a personal attack? Like Goodview also no guaranteed SPL will launch every 8 months in each phase, you will not be surprised if SPL also look at secondary market if good response the can jack up more in next phase, which developer don't like more profit, reasonly I go see one landed, developer them self keep a few unit asking for sky high price, agent told me they want to push the market price up so that next phase can price higher, this also help current owner easier to sell as their price still lower than developer unit. Learn something lah Bear2 business is about techniques to sell at the highest price buyer willing to pay, if SPL can jack up the price it would attract more buyers as can flip off easily. Not personal attack lah ! Just tell you life is full of competition one, either Business or Personal, so don't look at own self too high up, can drag & drag, property drag pay high price, people drag..you fill in the blank lah if later says I personal attack you .. Kekeke |
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Sep 21 2014, 05:37 PM
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just close this thread la, 20pages all debate about bearbearwong should buy or not buy is he that famous? there nothing much left about Goodview heights in this thread
why not just open a new thread title "bearbearwong to buy or not to buy" then can kopitiam all day there |
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 21 2014, 01:58 PM) 8 months vp, you can only flip if developers sold off their units, if not how to flip? look at OUG parklane, those boys need to trail behind developers price by at least 30k.. BBW, come SEH lah... flippers cannot be flipping 200k immediately 8 months vp, their price cannot surpass or the same with 2nd phase. must be lower at a margin of 50k above at least, sumore you got full hit by 30% RPGT if you sell so. lets say SHL launching 2nd phase at 200k extra (highly unlikely) which bring minimum selling price to 928k, a leap of 200k jolokia bought at 728k, next year vp (May 2015) - want to sell at what price? a) 928k ppl ask you to go fly kite b) 828k ( possibly, that is provided developers are selling 200k more than 1st phase) even 828 k was sold, jolokia got screwed by 30% RPGT, 2% lock in if any, and other expenses, easily can touch 50k gone.. left remaining of 50k (65k is just too much) if you are trying to sell nearing 928k, cannot be too near, your 1st phase is sub sales, no S&P included, no stamp duty included, all these sub sales cost cause around 40k, the most 1st phase can go is 880k, that is provided developers taking a 200k leap from 1st phase launch.. Responding to EM, now SEH have 10 theme parks already... You want outside look like red brick? come buy Saraca lah, starting 680k only... Follow the SEH tradition, legal fees for loan and SPA, plus the stamp duty for loan all covered one... Better deal, no? Same size woh, 22 x 75, can save 50k for renovation mah... This post has been edited by samkps: Sep 21 2014, 05:49 PM Attached thumbnail(s) |
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QUOTE(InF.anime @ Sep 21 2014, 05:07 PM) Go see the place yourself loh, I can says good potential, 20km from city centre, MRT project, neat township, only drawback is still need more facilities, last time people says Sg Long far2 land now compare to Semenyih, Bangi, it look very close already. |
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QUOTE(Maximp @ Sep 21 2014, 05:37 PM) just close this thread la, 0pages all debate about bearbearwong should buy or not buy is he that famous? there nothing much left about Goodview heights in this thread The focus should be on the project, BBW steal the limelight...... why not just open a new thread title "bearbearwong to buy or not to buy" then can kopitiam all day there |
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Sep 21 2014, 06:14 PM
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QUOTE(Maximp @ Sep 21 2014, 05:37 PM) just close this thread la, 20pages all debate about bearbearwong should buy or not buy is he that famous? there nothing much left about Goodview heights in this thread apologies to owner, these ppl are just going to kill the threads.. any updates of the units left? heard only big size 22 X80 left?why not just open a new thread title "bearbearwong to buy or not to buy" then can kopitiam all day there |
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Sep 21 2014, 06:41 PM
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Wao lao, BEAR BEAR thread
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 20 2014, 10:29 PM) just wondering, does it applies to the Malaysian property in kv as a whole? hmm, the vacant units which are in mass means no buyers? when no buyers, should the price correct? or go up? bearbear, you are always right. Property market will happen according to what you think. Property market will discount 20% next year. You will buy your property next year cheap from the flippers and you will live happily ever after, just as you thought or this just applies to BTS project only and in Goodview only? This post has been edited by Showtime747: Sep 21 2014, 06:46 PM |
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