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 Goodview heights @ sg Long south, DSL 22 X75, 22 X80 and more

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SUSjolokia
post Sep 20 2014, 11:11 PM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 20 2014, 10:29 PM)
just wondering, does it applies to the Malaysian property in kv as a whole? hmm, the vacant units which are in mass means no buyers? when no buyers, should the price correct? or go up?

or this just applies to BTS project only and in Goodview only?
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Think of yourself as the owner, would you deliberately sell cheap 2 if you can afford monthly mortgage even without tenant ? would you sell me your Vios for 30K knowing even sell it to used car dealers can fetch a better price ?

Vacant unit merely means buyer not willing to pay owner asking price or they had yet to find a buyer who will pay, if there is a unit successfully found buyer it will be new minimum price that other owner willing to let go & most of the time they will ask for more.

To simplify it Owner looking for desperate buyer, while buyer looking for desperate owner, most of time owner found desperate buyer as house price just keep going up & up, just momentum of going up variable according to different period of time.

This post has been edited by jolokia: Sep 20 2014, 11:14 PM
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post Sep 21 2014, 01:07 PM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 21 2014, 12:47 PM)
green terraine supply more than demand no?
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Magic question "Is it getting any cheaper" ??

If not then at best you just get more unit to choose from but not paying cheaper price.

Now come most crucial question "Hace you booked a unit of Goodview Height ?"

If not move on to source for other properties.

You can wait another year but your pocket can't. ..lol

Buy one & move on lah..


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post Sep 21 2014, 01:10 PM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 21 2014, 01:03 PM)
the construction site itself , already 70% completed, sg long clubhouse is to check the availability of units left..

still there are phase 2, 3, 4 and more coming..

after twin palms.
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Phase 2, 3, 4 will see price surge to sky high, expect to pay 1 Million if you keep on waiting.
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post Sep 21 2014, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 21 2014, 01:10 PM)
why not? everyone cant afford and more properties are vacant... sure this is what investors looking for?

then like that, we can just buy any proeprties in the market, conz proeprty alwayls goes up and never goes down despite poor demands or even no demands.

once you get the loan approved (like other threads you mentioned) properties are surely to up.

so buying any property= confirm profits? that is also provided got ppl buy...
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There is always demand for strategically located properties, year end coming people taking Bonus, it's another round of shopping spree.

If bought at 300K market price 600K later offer 570K, do you call that price drop 5% or price surge 190% ??

At lease I had never seen any property transaction price lower than SnP price.

Even if there is one quite sure you wouldn't want it also, land slide area maybe..lol
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post Sep 21 2014, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 21 2014, 01:13 PM)
we do not know yet, may be 800k bracket.. first
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I would say no less than 100K surge, unless the area turn out to be a flop.



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post Sep 21 2014, 01:38 PM

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QUOTE(ManutdGiggs @ Sep 21 2014, 01:23 PM)
In real life prop has Onli one way. Make a guess.

Most auction props r not wat u wan. If it's so easy with naive thinking to grab any auction dead chic, most auction units sure sold or booked b4 goin into auction house.

Or oledi found buyers b4 owner kantoi.

I usually point at the unit I wan for subsales. Not waiting for agents to tell me which is gd.

Bro bear may e can try wait. It's not too bad to contribute part of the econ grow by buying higher.
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Well said rclxms.gif agent always push for bread crump first, good stuff probably kept for himself, friends, relatives or their VIP customers.

Anyway 730K is already water under the bridge for Goodview Height cheapest unit, unless someone got rejected, but would SHL still offer the same price, I doubt.

Bear2 & future mrs. 2014 & 2015 bonus burned. .lol
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post Sep 21 2014, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 21 2014, 01:35 PM)
that is why, developers vs flippers got difference, flippers see landed 200k 250k, developers go by pace, next pahse can surge 200k or not?
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Could be if project sucess & demand overwhelming, develop usually priced it higher than flipper to make sure their current customers is happy, if developer out offer their customers who dare to buy from them in future, don't forget flipper unit mean instantly available while developer unit still need to wait.

You don't expect those who can sapu 730K property will settle with chicken feed profit of 65K like you mentioned after waiting for a year for VP, do you ?
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post Sep 21 2014, 02:24 PM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 21 2014, 01:58 PM)
8 months vp, you can only flip if developers sold off their units, if not how to flip? look at OUG parklane, those boys need to trail behind developers price by at least 30k..

flippers cannot be flipping 200k immediately 8 months vp, their price cannot surpass or the same with 2nd phase. must be lower at a margin of 50k above at least, sumore you got full hit by 30% RPGT if you sell so.

lets say SHL launching 2nd phase at 200k extra (highly unlikely)

which bring minimum selling price to 928k, a leap of 200k
jolokia bought at 728k, next year vp (May 2015) - want to sell at what price?
a) 928k ppl ask you to go fly kite
b) 828k ( possibly, that is provided developers are selling 200k more than 1st phase)

even 828 k was sold, jolokia got screwed by 30% RPGT, 2% lock in if any, and other expenses, easily can touch 50k gone.. left remaining of 50k (65k is just too much)

if you are trying to sell nearing 928k, cannot be too near, your 1st phase is sub sales, no S&P included, no stamp duty included, all these sub sales cost cause around 40k, the most 1st phase can go is 880k, that is provided developers taking a 200k leap from 1st phase launch..
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I told you laio mah, buying from flipper get instant VP, buy from developer another year (not sure phase 2 will be that fast), sime people can wait some people can't, some willing to pay to get things fast, like now iphone 6 got people willing ro pay 5-8K just to get it few months earlier, you call that stupid but still there is such market.

Don't forget 730K is another market compare to 288K OUG parklane, these people have plenty of $$ to hold it vacant.

BTW how long can you or shall I said future Mrs Bear2 can wait ? another man who can afford a 730K property not hard to find for a lawyer hoh. .lol
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post Sep 21 2014, 05:35 PM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 21 2014, 02:46 PM)
buying from flipper dont get valuation and post so much hardship, no legal fees stamp duties.. maybe you are different to get instant vp compared to built and sell scheme.. sign now next year vp..

ana analogy of buying I phone 5 or 6 is not accurate to picture the real property market, these group of buyers like I phone are being introduced by packages (similar to what of a DIBS in property) low entry, products goes out, debt is bound..

and buying phone is like 1 or 2 years of commitment still need package to help, properties goes to few hundred thousands you say they can fork out enough, even they do (and even they pass their loans), ability to service? it is 35 years.. and OPR are goes by quarterly review per year..

OUG aprklane are sold off at 288k to 320k now 420k, are made out strong cash? and that is what you want us to believe so?

so it become a personal attack?
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Same mah ! IPhone 6 not yet official available in Malaysia, so people go & employed people to line up & to anyone who can afford to pay 5-8K for it, isn't it same as property ? these people go line up pay deposits & wait for 1 year then sell to you at 800K is it ? Yourself already said that's peanuts profit after RPGT, same line go line up few days buy iPhone 6 sent all the way to Malaysia to see you with RM 100 extra is it ?

Like Goodview also no guaranteed SPL will launch every 8 months in each phase, you will not be surprised if SPL also look at secondary market if good response the can jack up more in next phase, which developer don't like more profit, reasonly I go see one landed, developer them self keep a few unit asking for sky high price, agent told me they want to push the market price up so that next phase can price higher, this also help current owner easier to sell as their price still lower than developer unit.
Learn something lah Bear2 business is about techniques to sell at the highest price buyer willing to pay, if SPL can jack up the price it would attract more buyers as can flip off easily.

Not personal attack lah ! Just tell you life is full of competition one, either Business or Personal, so don't look at own self too high up, can drag & drag, property drag pay high price, people drag..you fill in the blank lah if later says I personal attack you .. Kekeke
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post Sep 21 2014, 05:44 PM

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QUOTE(InF.anime @ Sep 21 2014, 05:07 PM)
You guys thing Sg Long is good meh? i really dont think so..
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Go see the place yourself loh, I can says good potential, 20km from city centre, MRT project, neat township, only drawback is still need more facilities, last time people says Sg Long far2 land now compare to Semenyih, Bangi, it look very close already.
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post Sep 21 2014, 08:46 PM

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QUOTE(Jliew168 @ Sep 21 2014, 08:03 PM)
If fully sold Bearbear can safely bring in law visit this project n pretend to cut cheque hehehe

Ops.. Too bad ah pa ah ma , not Bearbear don't wan to buy but fully sold..
Let wait for phase 2 ya  tongue.gif
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Maybe he wait for Ah Pa Ah Mah, Mei loi Goi Fu Goi Mou, says don't worry son we settle the 79K down payment for you, next year can lai mai tin cheon, kaw tim biger unit zero down payment, this guy is a born genius...kekeke





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