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 Goodview heights @ sg Long south, DSL 22 X75, 22 X80 and more

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post Sep 21 2014, 01:13 PM

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QUOTE(jolokia @ Sep 21 2014, 01:10 PM)
Phase 2, 3, 4 will see price surge to sky high,  expect to pay 1 Million if you keep on waiting.
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we do not know yet, may be 800k bracket.. first
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post Sep 21 2014, 01:14 PM

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QUOTE(ManutdGiggs @ Sep 21 2014, 01:12 PM)
As u wish.

Too it's not gonna work tis way in real life.
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well said, property are not a confirmed investments...
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post Sep 21 2014, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 21 2014, 01:10 PM)
why not? everyone cant afford and more properties are vacant... sure this is what investors looking for?

then like that, we can just buy any proeprties in the market, conz proeprty alwayls goes up and never goes down despite poor demands or even no demands.

once you get the loan approved (like other threads you mentioned) properties are surely to up.

so buying any property= confirm profits? that is also provided got ppl buy...
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There is always demand for strategically located properties, year end coming people taking Bonus, it's another round of shopping spree.

If bought at 300K market price 600K later offer 570K, do you call that price drop 5% or price surge 190% ??

At lease I had never seen any property transaction price lower than SnP price.

Even if there is one quite sure you wouldn't want it also, land slide area maybe..lol
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post Sep 21 2014, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 21 2014, 01:13 PM)
we do not know yet, may be 800k bracket.. first
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I would say no less than 100K surge, unless the area turn out to be a flop.



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post Sep 21 2014, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 21 2014, 01:14 PM)
well said, property are not a confirmed investments...
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In real life prop has Onli one way. Make a guess.

Most auction props r not wat u wan. If it's so easy with naive thinking to grab any auction dead chic, most auction units sure sold or booked b4 goin into auction house.

Or oledi found buyers b4 owner kantoi.

I usually point at the unit I wan for subsales. Not waiting for agents to tell me which is gd.

Bro bear may e can try wait. It's not too bad to contribute part of the econ grow by buying higher.
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post Sep 21 2014, 01:34 PM

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QUOTE(jolokia @ Sep 21 2014, 01:20 PM)
There is always demand for strategically located properties, year end coming people taking Bonus, it's another round of shopping spree.

If bought at 300K market price 600K later offer 570K, do you call that price drop 5% or price surge 190% ??

At lease I had never seen any property transaction price lower than SnP price.

Even if there is one quite sure you wouldn't want it also, land slide area maybe..lol
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maybe they will conserve this year for GST leh..

ironically, I seen a lot in auction prices, properties are sell below S&P price, well subsales.
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QUOTE(jolokia @ Sep 21 2014, 01:22 PM)
I would say no less than 100K surge, unless the area turn out to be a flop.
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that is why, developers vs flippers got difference, flippers see landed 200k 250k, developers go by pace, next pahse can surge 200k or not?


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QUOTE(ManutdGiggs @ Sep 21 2014, 01:23 PM)
In real life prop has Onli one way. Make a guess.

Most auction props r not wat u wan. If it's so easy with naive thinking to grab any auction dead chic, most auction units sure sold or booked b4 goin into auction house.

Or oledi found buyers b4 owner kantoi.

I usually point at the unit I wan for subsales. Not waiting for agents to tell me which is gd.

Bro bear may e can try wait. It's not too bad to contribute part of the econ grow by buying higher.
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Well said rclxms.gif agent always push for bread crump first, good stuff probably kept for himself, friends, relatives or their VIP customers.

Anyway 730K is already water under the bridge for Goodview Height cheapest unit, unless someone got rejected, but would SHL still offer the same price, I doubt.

Bear2 & future mrs. 2014 & 2015 bonus burned. .lol
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 21 2014, 01:35 PM)
that is why, developers vs flippers got difference, flippers see landed 200k 250k, developers go by pace, next pahse can surge 200k or not?
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QUOTE(ManutdGiggs @ Sep 21 2014, 01:23 PM)
In real life prop has Onli one way. Make a guess.

Most auction props r not wat u wan. If it's so easy with naive thinking to grab any auction dead chic, most auction units sure sold or booked b4 goin into auction house.

Or oledi found buyers b4 owner kantoi.

I usually point at the unit I wan for subsales. Not waiting for agents to tell me which is gd.

Bro bear may e can try wait. It's not too bad to contribute part of the econ grow by buying higher.
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autcion are the ones where property goes down very down, ironically same valuers valuing, funny..

nevertheless, despite all that is said and witness, investment are for buy and sell activity, there is no purpose the price keep going up when ppl are not buying... and banks dont play along.

bank is the institution approving loans, without them, there will be no funds to cater the price..

banks are at many time risk of borrowing such big sums out and with returns of 4 plus interest per annum..

my waiting list is not long next year maa, wanted to see GST effect...
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QUOTE(jolokia @ Sep 21 2014, 01:38 PM)
Well said rclxms.gif agent always push for bread crump first, good stuff probably kept for himself, friends, relatives or their VIP customers.

Anyway 730K is already water under the bridge for Goodview Height cheapest unit, unless someone got rejected, but would SHL still offer the same price, I doubt.

Bear2 & future mrs. 2014 & 2015 bonus burned. .lol
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dun worry about the bonuses, it comes in years, next year there are more... there is a boundary to property price.. and I believe we have breached it..


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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 21 2014, 01:40 PM)
autcion are the ones where property goes down very down, ironically same valuers valuing, funny..

nevertheless, despite all that is said and witness, investment are for buy and sell activity, there is no purpose the price keep going up when ppl are not buying... and banks dont play along.

bank is the institution approving loans, without them, there will be no funds to cater the price..

banks are at many time risk of borrowing such big sums out and with returns of 4 plus interest per annum..

my waiting list is not long next year maa, wanted to see GST effect...
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U really need to und more bout prop market. U tok like an expert but not convincing. I cal tis type of fake expert Michael tan
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 21 2014, 01:35 PM)
that is why, developers vs flippers got difference, flippers see landed 200k 250k, developers go by pace, next pahse can surge 200k or not?
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Could be if project sucess & demand overwhelming, develop usually priced it higher than flipper to make sure their current customers is happy, if developer out offer their customers who dare to buy from them in future, don't forget flipper unit mean instantly available while developer unit still need to wait.

You don't expect those who can sapu 730K property will settle with chicken feed profit of 65K like you mentioned after waiting for a year for VP, do you ?
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QUOTE(ManutdGiggs @ Sep 21 2014, 01:43 PM)
U really need to und more bout prop market. U tok like an expert but not convincing. I cal tis type of fake expert Michael tan
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Dont lose your patient boss...... u r the most patient person around to talk to him ya....
if u also lose patient..... then siao liao...... tongue.gif tongue.gif
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QUOTE(AppreciativeMan @ Sep 21 2014, 01:47 PM)
Dont lose your patient boss...... u r the most patient person around to talk to him ya....
if u also lose patient..... then siao liao......  :P  :P
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I soon wanna b jolok cili. Switch camp.
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QUOTE(ManutdGiggs @ Sep 21 2014, 01:43 PM)
U really need to und more bout prop market. U tok like an expert but not convincing. I cal tis type of fake expert Michael tan
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isn't that the real fact? there are price for properties.. property market easier is

supply = demand
now vacant units a lot= supply many
supply many= price up or down?
transaction down= less demand
less demand, supply many= but price up? like this property price never goes down, grab any property will do

some ppl say, developers are not stupid keep building there are demands, of course, supported by 90% bank loans and freebies.. the sub sales never catch up like the ones during launching time, why? not supported by the same and no valuations.

if developers are confident about the demands, built and sell (100%) , if the have the confident, their profit margin can be higher too once completed units are sold.
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QUOTE(ManutdGiggs @ Sep 21 2014, 01:49 PM)
I soon wanna b jolok cili. Switch camp.
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jolokia switch camp probably also cannot tahan such teammate woh..... tongue.gif tongue.gif
always misfiring or shooting wrong target.... laugh.gif laugh.gif
u sure u wants to be in one team with bbw?.... brows.gif brows.gif
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 21 2014, 01:50 PM)
isn't that the real fact? there are price for properties..  property market easier is

supply = demand
now vacant units a lot= supply many
supply many= price up or down?
transaction down= less demand
less demand, supply many= but price up? like this property price never goes down, grab any property will do

some ppl say, developers are not stupid keep building there are demands, of course, supported by 90% bank loans and freebies.. the sub sales never catch up like the ones during launching time, why? not supported by the same and no valuations.

if developers are confident about the demands, built and sell (100%) , if the have the confident, their profit margin can be higher too once completed units are sold.
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Will u get ur dream unit??? With the price u wan??? Come with the loan amount u need???

If u havnt, u Onli in dream land. Put ur feet a step further, otw u 'll b there forever.

V hav to keep moving further in marathon.

This post has been edited by ManutdGiggs: Sep 21 2014, 02:04 PM
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QUOTE(AppreciativeMan @ Sep 21 2014, 01:53 PM)
jolokia switch camp probably also cannot tahan such teammate woh.....  :P  :P
always misfiring or shooting wrong target....  :lol:  :lol:
u sure u wants to be in one team with bbw?....  :hehe:  :hehe:
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Nope. I just wanna kick him out n replace him to allow bro bear to start buying. I hav bot enuf.
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QUOTE(jolokia @ Sep 21 2014, 01:46 PM)
Could be if project sucess & demand overwhelming, develop usually priced it higher than flipper to make sure their current customers is happy, if developer out offer their customers who dare to buy from them in future, don't forget flipper unit mean instantly available while developer unit still need to wait.

You don't expect those who can sapu 730K property will settle with chicken feed profit of 65K like you mentioned after waiting for a year for VP, do you ?
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8 months vp, you can only flip if developers sold off their units, if not how to flip? look at OUG parklane, those boys need to trail behind developers price by at least 30k..

flippers cannot be flipping 200k immediately 8 months vp, their price cannot surpass or the same with 2nd phase. must be lower at a margin of 50k above at least, sumore you got full hit by 30% RPGT if you sell so.

lets say SHL launching 2nd phase at 200k extra (highly unlikely)

which bring minimum selling price to 928k, a leap of 200k
jolokia bought at 728k, next year vp (May 2015) - want to sell at what price?
a) 928k ppl ask you to go fly kite
b) 828k ( possibly, that is provided developers are selling 200k more than 1st phase)

even 828 k was sold, jolokia got screwed by 30% RPGT, 2% lock in if any, and other expenses, easily can touch 50k gone.. left remaining of 50k (65k is just too much)

if you are trying to sell nearing 928k, cannot be too near, your 1st phase is sub sales, no S&P included, no stamp duty included, all these sub sales cost cause around 40k, the most 1st phase can go is 880k, that is provided developers taking a 200k leap from 1st phase launch..

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