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ASN, ASN2, ASN3, ASG, ASB, ASW2020, ASM, ASD, AS1M, AMANAH SAHAM NASIONAL BERHAD V6
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bumble_b33
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Oct 15 2014, 01:11 PM
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Oct 15 2014, 01:07 PM) yeah, totally forgot about dividend. but according to some sifu, it's also counted into NAV thus we need to calculate entry price & selling price only  Usually the market rate will drop after given the dividen ??
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nexona88
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Oct 15 2014, 01:12 PM
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QUOTE(yahiko @ Oct 15 2014, 10:07 AM) Can we check the statement online? Using maybank to buy as1m few year ago. Never update the book since then Nope, ASNB don't have online for viewing balance. Only Passbook based. even u don't update your passbook for years, the amount is still there.. it's won't become dormant account like bank account.. if u don't know where u kept the passbook, then u just apply for new one. need to pay some fee. Veli simple
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nexona88
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Oct 15 2014, 01:13 PM
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QUOTE(bumble_b33 @ Oct 15 2014, 01:11 PM) Usually the market rate will drop after given the dividen ?? yup, it's just like share ex-dividend price that's why some sifu said, it into NAV..
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bumble_b33
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Oct 15 2014, 01:19 PM
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Oct 15 2014, 01:13 PM) yup, it's just like share ex-dividend price that's why some sifu said, it into NAV.. So it wants us do not withdraw right after the dividen out is it ? what is the greatest time to withdraw oh ?
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nexona88
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Oct 15 2014, 01:25 PM
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QUOTE(bumble_b33 @ Oct 15 2014, 01:19 PM) So it wants us do not withdraw right after the dividen out is it ? what is the greatest time to withdraw oh ? logically speaking if u withdraw just before dividend or just after dividend is the same only. ASNB would adjust the NAV.. the best time to withdraw is when the price is highest.. but now is not good time if your entry price is higher..
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bumble_b33
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Oct 15 2014, 01:28 PM
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Oct 15 2014, 01:25 PM) logically speaking if u withdraw just before dividend or just after dividend is the same only. ASNB would adjust the NAV.. the best time to withdraw is when the price is highest.. but now is not good time if your entry price is higher.. Ah.. ok ba.. have to wait long long first .. haih.. pumped at the highest rate.. so bad luck
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nexona88
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Oct 15 2014, 01:32 PM
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QUOTE(bumble_b33 @ Oct 15 2014, 01:28 PM) Ah.. ok ba.. have to wait long long first .. haih.. pumped at the highest rate.. so bad luck yup, need to wai a bit longer. just hope that the price recover  This market "correction" is killing a lot of people  u go see FSM thread.. most UT holders are in bloody red now
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bbgoat
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Oct 15 2014, 01:45 PM
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Aiya, noticed ASG Kesihtan & Pendidikan down again from what I bought last week.  May have to do some cost averaging. This post has been edited by bbgoat: Oct 15 2014, 01:46 PM
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nexona88
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Oct 15 2014, 01:59 PM
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QUOTE(bbgoat @ Oct 15 2014, 01:45 PM) Aiya, noticed ASG Kesihtan & Pendidikan down again from what I bought last week.  May have to do some cost averaging.  what to expect.. market drop only.. and some people are telling the correction are not over yet.. still long way to go
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bbgoat
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Oct 15 2014, 02:21 PM
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Oct 15 2014, 01:59 PM) what to expect.. market drop only.. and some people are telling the correction are not over yet.. still long way to go  Cost averaging concept is a good way to go. But have to do it slowly. Hard to time the market.
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Nine2Five
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Oct 15 2014, 02:22 PM
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New Member
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QUOTE(bumble_b33 @ Oct 15 2014, 12:48 PM) thank you for so many responses and advices I don't have other FD or SA. I not sure the cc charge percentage. My plan is: 1. wait till next year april and see the rate for sell or not. at least i can get the dividen to cover the lost ? after dividen, the market price will drop usually is it ? 2. balance transfer looks like having some hidden cost, so i think not to try. I will try my best to pay as much as i can to CC and keeping my ASG. You can checkout the following. As too competitive, it's zero cost for 6-mths... https://www.pbebank.com/Personal-Banking/Pr...ansfer-XIV.aspx
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plumberly
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Oct 15 2014, 03:40 PM
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QUOTE(bbgoat @ Oct 15 2014, 02:21 PM) Cost averaging concept is a good way to go. But have to do it slowly. Hard to time the market.  My 2 cents ... Cost averaging will only work if the future price is higher than the current price, not a sure win strategy. Personally, I prefer to stay away from this often mis-used concept. Some good reading material on the web on this CA. Cheerio.
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TS[Ancient]-XinG-
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Oct 15 2014, 03:57 PM
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QUOTE(plumberly @ Oct 15 2014, 03:40 PM) My 2 cents ... Cost averaging will only work if the future price is higher than the current price, not a sure win strategy. Personally, I prefer to stay away from this often mis-used concept. Some good reading material on the web on this CA. Cheerio. lol I think there is no sure win concept in investment.. DCA works ok for last year. Now suddenly market drop like duno what. any here remember how long this thing last in 98 and 08? haven't 18 yet ad got symptoms ad
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bbgoat
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Oct 15 2014, 05:05 PM
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QUOTE(plumberly @ Oct 15 2014, 03:40 PM) My 2 cents ... Cost averaging will only work if the future price is higher than the current price, not a sure win strategy. Personally, I prefer to stay away from this often mis-used concept. Some good reading material on the web on this CA. Cheerio. QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Oct 15 2014, 03:57 PM) lol I think there is no sure win concept in investment.. DCA works ok for last year. Now suddenly market drop like duno what. any here remember how long this thing last in 98 and 08? haven't 18 yet ad got symptoms ad  Like Ancient-XinG- said, no sure win strategy. Have to be dynamic and pick one strategy and may have to change the strategy when the market situation changes. This post has been edited by bbgoat: Oct 15 2014, 05:05 PM
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plumberly
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Oct 15 2014, 06:21 PM
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QUOTE(bbgoat @ Oct 15 2014, 05:05 PM) Like Ancient-XinG- said, no sure win strategy. Have to be dynamic and pick one strategy and may have to change the strategy when the market situation changes.  Just airing my frustrations over this marketing tool used by UT agents. I was already anti CA when I first saw it many years ago. Illustrations they use paint a rosy picture. But they use the data they need to paint the rosy picture. Read some books by foreign authors who caution on blindly following the CA strategy. If I remember correctly, even our local guru (AAli) also cautions following CA blindly in his recent book. Cheerio.
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bbgoat
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Oct 15 2014, 06:29 PM
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QUOTE(plumberly @ Oct 15 2014, 06:21 PM) Just airing my frustrations over this marketing tool used by UT agents. I was already anti CA when I first saw it many years ago. Illustrations they use paint a rosy picture. But they use the data they need to paint the rosy picture. Read some books by foreign authors who caution on blindly following the CA strategy. If I remember correctly, even our local guru (AAli) also cautions following CA blindly in his recent book. Cheerio. Cannot blindly do it. One example is if something is going to go way off, DCA is not going to give you anything. But for ASNB funds, hopefully it is going to re-bound, just a matter of when.
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TS[Ancient]-XinG-
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Oct 15 2014, 07:25 PM
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QUOTE(bbgoat @ Oct 15 2014, 06:29 PM) Cannot blindly do it. One example is if something is going to go way off, DCA is not going to give you anything. But for ASNB funds, hopefully it is going to re-bound, just a matter of when.  Re bound is for sure IMO. I think I will buy little when the NAV strike 1.12 or 1.11. However I have no exp how this market drop will last...
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nexona88
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Oct 15 2014, 08:09 PM
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I think those want to top-up their ASG & ASN3 fund can do so, but please do small amount because I got the feeling the price might drop to near RM1/unit just my opinion. decision is yours
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blasto
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Oct 16 2014, 10:57 AM
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guys kindly advise ... My ASB max 200k should I apply ASB2 ? When is the dividend payout ? Thanks in advance
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smartinvestor01
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Oct 16 2014, 11:15 AM
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QUOTE(plumberly @ Oct 15 2014, 03:40 PM) My 2 cents ... Cost averaging will only work if the future price is higher than the current price, not a sure win strategy. Personally, I prefer to stay away from this often mis-used concept. Some good reading material on the web on this CA. Cheerio. Yape.. Somehow, i have a bad feeling that this drastic dip.. I believe it is not as simple as market correction because the world economy is facing is very major slowdown.. Continuous drop would signal an upcoming meltdown..
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