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plumberly
post Oct 10 2014, 02:49 PM

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QUOTE(lucifah @ Oct 10 2014, 02:39 PM)
effect of hari raya haji?

long holiday, early payday,
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post Oct 10 2014, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(plumberly @ Oct 10 2014, 02:30 PM)
Hope sifu can help me here.

ASM has 17.042 billion approved units. But in 2014 dividend report, they stated -

"The income distribution will involve a total payout of RM947.10 million benefiting more than 530,000 unit holders who currently hold 14.34 billion units of ASM."

There is no bumi & non bumi quota for ASM. Then how come there are still unsold units in ASM (17.042-14.34 billion)?

They keep the free units for future dividend allocation? Cannot be.

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Diff between 17.042 n 14.34 is for future Dividend + New offer, if applicable
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post Oct 10 2014, 03:47 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Oct 10 2014, 02:52 PM)
Diff between 17.042 n 14.34 is for future Dividend + New offer, if applicable
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Surprising. I see.

What if the sold units quantity is the same as the approved units quantity? They ask govt for more approved units? Have they done this before?

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QUOTE(plumberly @ Oct 10 2014, 03:47 PM)
Surprising. I see.

What if the sold units quantity is the same as the approved units quantity? They ask govt for more approved units? Have they done this before?

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They will seek SC approval to increase approved fund size
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post Oct 10 2014, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(plumberly @ Oct 10 2014, 02:38 PM)
Lots of ASW on fire sale in the last few days. Wondering why?
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I was thinking the same. why suddenly. I know got holiday, but only few days only. Maybe budget 2015 not good? withdraw & keep others places or use it for some purpose / higher expenses? Tax on ASx? hmm.gif
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Sorry for a Noob question:

1. let's say i deposited RM10,000 for ASG kesihatan at 1.177.
After deduct 5% fees, i get around:
RM 9500 / 1.177 = 8071.36 units

if the rate of ASG kesihatan is 1.157 now.
how we calculate unit if i withdraw now ?

8071.36units x 1.157 ??

the lower the current rate is better or the higher the current rate ?
1.157 is good or not good from my initially 1.177 deposited rate?

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post Oct 10 2014, 05:04 PM

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QUOTE(bumble_b33 @ Oct 10 2014, 04:52 PM)
Sorry for a Noob question:

1. let's say i deposited RM10,000 for ASG kesihatan at 1.177.
After deduct 5% fees, i get around:
RM 9500 / 1.177 = 8071.36 units

if the rate of ASG kesihatan is 1.157 now.
how we calculate unit if i withdraw now ?

8071.36units x 1.157 ??

the lower the current rate is better or the higher the current rate ?
1.157 is good or not good from my initially 1.177 deposited rate?

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in simple statement, u are losing money now @ 1.157..

if want profit, unit price should be 1.20 above sweat.gif
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post Oct 10 2014, 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Oct 10 2014, 05:04 PM)
in simple statement, u are losing money now @ 1.157..

if want profit, unit price should be 1.20 above sweat.gif
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ah.. so the calculation should be my units x current rate i think ?

already 3 months since my deposit from 1.177 ..
now left 1.158 = =

so bad luck..
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post Oct 10 2014, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(bumble_b33 @ Oct 10 2014, 05:12 PM)
ah.. so the calculation should be my units x current rate i think ?

already 3 months since my deposit from 1.177 ..
now left 1.158 = =

so bad luck..
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yup. if sell/withdraw now. units x current price = your cash ...

now market down. 3mth ago market up. now down2 only. some UT are losing money (in term of price) cry.gif
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post Oct 10 2014, 05:35 PM

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In RHB Bank today to buy ASG Kesihatan & Pendidikan. The manager showed me his tracking of the ASG prices. Looks like the recent prices have been relatively low compared to months ago. Today slight rebound for the ASG prices.
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post Oct 10 2014, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Oct 10 2014, 05:17 PM)
yup. if sell/withdraw now. units x current price = your cash ...

now market down. 3mth ago market up. now down2 only. some UT are losing money (in term of price) cry.gif
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Omg, i dumped in during the hill of market ? = =
will it up again around end of calendar year 30 april ?
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post Oct 10 2014, 05:38 PM

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QUOTE(bumble_b33 @ Oct 10 2014, 05:12 PM)
ah.. so the calculation should be my units x current rate i think ?

already 3 months since my deposit from 1.177 ..
now left 1.158 = =

so bad luck..
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chill la bro, only 3 mths...keep it for the long term, with the budget announcing healthcare not impacted by GST, sure will naik one

good time to buy for me now..ehehe
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post Oct 10 2014, 05:39 PM

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QUOTE(bbgoat @ Oct 10 2014, 05:35 PM)
In RHB Bank today to buy ASG Kesihatan & Pendidikan. The manager showed me his tracking of the ASG prices. Looks like the recent prices have been relatively low compared to months ago. Today slight rebound for the ASG prices.
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The CIMB staff didn't show me the price tracking pun.. just show the diveden history..
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QUOTE(champu @ Oct 10 2014, 05:38 PM)
chill la bro, only 3 mths...keep it for the long term, with the budget announcing healthcare not impacted by GST, sure will naik one

good time to buy for me now..ehehe
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Cause feeling like wanna withdraw soon as i will need money in next year time.
initially was planned for 1 year investment, but i guess 1 year time will i get some profit or still losing ?
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post Oct 10 2014, 05:43 PM

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QUOTE(bumble_b33 @ Oct 10 2014, 05:39 PM)
The CIMB staff didn't show me the price tracking pun.. just show the diveden history..
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This depends on the mgr. He tracked it on a sheet of paper, hand written the daily prices. Guess quite unique, customer service ! rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(bumble_b33 @ Oct 10 2014, 05:40 PM)
Cause feeling like wanna withdraw soon as i will need money in next year time.
initially was planned for 1 year investment, but i guess 1 year time will i get some profit or still losing ?
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when investing in ASG, your best bet would be at least 2-3 years to see a profit. This would of course be based on the funds performance.

Definitely not for short term as you stand to lose on admin and in your case price per unit.

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QUOTE(bumble_b33 @ Oct 10 2014, 05:37 PM)
Omg, i dumped in during the hill of market ? = =
will it up again around end of calendar year 30 april ?
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I'm not sure if the price would increase. a lot of people expecting some market crash next year (indirectly means UT would be effected) cry.gif
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QUOTE(bbgoat @ Oct 10 2014, 05:43 PM)
This depends on the mgr. He tracked it on a sheet of paper, hand written the daily prices. Guess quite unique, customer service !  rclxms.gif
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wah, so good the manager.. better keep him.. quickly developed a good rapport with him, later when have new fixed ASx units, can ask for help biggrin.gif
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post Oct 10 2014, 06:01 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Oct 10 2014, 05:57 PM)
wah, so good the manager.. better keep him.. quickly developed a good rapport with him, later when have new fixed ASx units, can ask for help biggrin.gif
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Ha ha, this fellow, young and looks sincere. So far I have no fixed price units. Will be good if new ones are introduced. But with the merger coming, not sure what is going to happen to the 3 banks. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(plumberly @ Oct 10 2014, 02:38 PM)
CONGRATULATIONS!

You must be a very preferred bank customer where they provide this special ASX service for you! Ha.

Lots of ASW on fire sale in the last few days. Wondering why?

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Actually I leave my book with them. Just call them if units available, just go to bank to sign the withdraw form from my SA to contra to the AS account.

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