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post Aug 3 2015, 11:42 PM

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QUOTE(eddie2020 @ Aug 3 2015, 10:18 PM)
only selected tesco? i went to tesco puchong mostly
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Not sure if Tesco Puchong coz rarely go there. I mostly go to either Ampang or Damansara ones.
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post Aug 4 2015, 12:23 AM

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QUOTE(eddie2020 @ Aug 2 2015, 10:32 PM)
Which Tesco? And what brand and grade
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I was at Seremban 2.
Brand is Total.
grade is 10w40 (synthetic based but not fully synthetic).
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post Aug 4 2015, 12:10 PM

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Went to one of this myvi sparepart shop to replace the window's rubner seal and saw Penzoil 15w50 bottles on the shelf. I asked what's it for? Guess the answer.

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post Aug 4 2015, 08:36 PM

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QUOTE(chemistry101 @ Aug 4 2015, 12:23 AM)
I was at Seremban 2.
Brand is Total.
grade is 10w40 (synthetic based but not fully synthetic).
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total brand apa tu? good? i hunt shell or castrol but dont have, 1k more need chg
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post Aug 4 2015, 08:53 PM

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QUOTE(eddie2020 @ Aug 4 2015, 08:36 PM)
total brand apa tu? good? i hunt shell or castrol but dont have, 1k more need chg
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Total is french company specialized in oil and gas sector.
It is the 7th biggest O&G player in the world.
I would avoid any engine oil “blended ” and repacked.
If you must take Castrol, take the Castrol made in EU or Germany.
If you must take Shell, take FormulaShell made in USA.
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post Aug 4 2015, 11:47 PM

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QUOTE(chemistry101 @ Aug 4 2015, 08:53 PM)
Total is french company specialized in oil and gas sector.
It is the 7th biggest O&G player in the world.
I would avoid any engine oil “blended ” and repacked.
If you must take Castrol, take the Castrol made in EU or Germany.
If you must take Shell, take FormulaShell made in USA.
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oh, they have API? or i called wrongly..
hmmm noted, i know alot fake 1 in market nowaday.. u use semi or fully? wad price
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post Aug 5 2015, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(eddie2020 @ Aug 4 2015, 11:47 PM)
oh, they have API? or i called wrongly..
hmmm noted, i know alot fake 1 in market nowaday.. u use semi or fully? wad price
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Yes, Total EO is API certified.
I use PetroCanada Supreme (synthetic based,not fully synthetic) 5w30, RM118 for 4 liters.
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post Aug 6 2015, 08:08 AM

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QUOTE(PedangGila @ Aug 4 2015, 12:10 PM)
Went to one of this myvi sparepart shop to replace the window's rubner seal and saw Penzoil 15w50 bottles on the shelf. I asked what's it for? Guess the answer.
Um... it's an engine oil. Therefore it's for engines? whistling.gif


QUOTE(chemistry101 @ Aug 4 2015, 08:53 PM)
Total is french company specialized in oil and gas sector.
It is the 7th biggest O&G player in the world.
I would avoid any engine oil “blended ” and repacked.
If you must take Castrol, take the Castrol made in EU or Germany.
If you must take Shell, take FormulaShell made in USA.
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Curious - why? Malaysian Mobil 1 vs Mobil 1 Europe are different blend in terms of additives to cater for different environmental conditions. Why is this sort of blending bad?

QUOTE(chemistry101 @ Aug 5 2015, 10:17 PM)
Yes,  Total EO is API certified.
I use PetroCanada Supreme (synthetic based,not fully synthetic) 5w30, RM118 for 4 liters.
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That's pretty cheap. Where'd you get that price if you don't mind sharing?
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post Aug 6 2015, 10:07 AM

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QUOTE(izso @ Aug 6 2015, 08:08 AM)

That's pretty cheap. Where'd you get that price if you don't mind sharing?
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being semi syn its sorta so-so pricing when tesco/giant are selling fully synthetics for just a few ringgit more lol
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post Aug 6 2015, 10:50 AM

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QUOTE(izso @ Aug 6 2015, 08:08 AM)
Curious - why? Malaysian Mobil 1 vs Mobil 1 Europe are different blend in terms of additives to cater for different environmental conditions. Why is this sort of blending bad?
That's pretty cheap. Where'd you get that price if you don't mind sharing?
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Pardon my stubbornness. In Malaysia when the imported eo needs to be reblended, it is upon cost down consideration but not the issue of climate adaptation. You may agree or disagree with me due to lack of proof.

My brother in law is petroCanada reseller. But when hypermarts offer fully syn for RM129 i will buy from hypermarts. There isnt really significant difference in driving pleasure in both total quartz (full syn) and supreme (synthetic based) . It could be only me.
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post Aug 6 2015, 10:58 AM

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QUOTE(izso @ Aug 6 2015, 08:08 AM)
Um... it's an engine oil. Therefore it's for engines?  whistling.gif
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He said people buy it to put in myvi. A w50 grade must be that good. Smooth more power. He added it was his customers which asked him to import that oil. Money is money I guess.
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QUOTE(chemistry101 @ Aug 6 2015, 10:50 AM)
Pardon my stubbornness. In Malaysia when the imported eo needs to be reblended, it is upon cost down consideration but not the issue of climate adaptation. You may agree or disagree with me due to lack of proof.
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imho, there is no issue in individuals having their own opinions, and i respect that.

my beef is when people are hard selling/pushing their opinions upon others as if it were the holy bible, or even worse blatantly putting words into people's mouth just to defame them just annoys me to no end.
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post Aug 6 2015, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 6 2015, 11:09 AM)
imho, there is no issue in individuals having their own opinions, and i respect that.

my beef is when people are hard selling/pushing their opinions upon others as if it were the holy bible, or even worse blatantly putting words into people's mouth just to defame them just annoys me to no end.
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This one I can't agree more.
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post Aug 7 2015, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE(chemistry101 @ Aug 6 2015, 10:50 AM)
Pardon my stubbornness. In Malaysia when the imported eo needs to be reblended, it is upon cost down consideration but not the issue of climate adaptation. You may agree or disagree with me due to lack of proof.

My brother in law is petroCanada reseller. But when hypermarts offer fully syn for RM129 i will buy from hypermarts. There isnt really significant difference in driving pleasure in both total quartz (full syn) and supreme (synthetic based) . It could be only me.
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I never thought about it in the cost down perspective. I happen to be in the O&G industry and as far as the big companies are concerned, I've never seen them cut costs by spec-ing down their oils. Well, that's for Exxon and Shell anyway. I don't know about other companies.


QUOTE(PedangGila @ Aug 6 2015, 10:58 AM)
He said people buy it to put in myvi. A w50 grade must be that good. Smooth more power. He added it was his customers which asked him to import that oil. Money is money I guess.
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Huh? Import? I can walk into any spare parts shop near my house and walk out with crates of this oil. It's abundant la, nothing special about it and I pity those Myvi owners. That oil if i'm not mistaken costs something like RM65 or 70 only.
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compiled some new information on the first page of this thread thanks to this thread https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3670455/+60 laugh.gif

ok la, got gain out of it.
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my take is EO is on personal preference, some like it "thin", other like it "thick", all have their pros and cons depending on certain condition, as long as it is not recycled oil, it should work fine, just my 2 cents.
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post Aug 7 2015, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(izso @ Aug 7 2015, 02:07 PM)
Huh? Import? I can walk into any spare parts shop near my house and walk out with crates of this oil. It's abundant la, nothing special about it and I pity those Myvi owners. That oil if i'm not mistaken costs something like RM65 or 70 only.
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Haha I used the wrong word la. Was browsing nengun website so the word stuck in my head. I mean he dealt directly with dealer which should be a local one. That aside but a 50 thickness in a myvi already insane la. That oil mustve go down to 30 during high temp so maybe thats the trick.
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post Aug 8 2015, 12:30 AM

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Hi all,

I am a suzuki swift owner (manufactured in 2013), current: mileage 60k. All the while I sent my car back to suzuki centre to do the service due to it's under warranty. But due to the expensive charges (a simple minor service costs rm400) and the fully sync EO (rm210 they charge) they used is actually just Petronas brand, so I plan to buy the EO at spare parts shop and get it change at workshop outside.

I have gone through some researches, having difficulties to choose between Total Quartz 9000 SN Future 5w30 and Mobil1 0w40, your suggestion please?

My selection criteria:
My work requires frequent travel, 2.5 months can travel 10k km. That's why I choose a fully sync EO, so that I do not need to change it that frequently.
Understand that the said EO might be more expensive than common EO, but I am willing to pay slightly more to get good quality (perhaps better protection + better fuel consumption) EO for my car.

Thanks. notworthy.gif
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post Aug 10 2015, 08:31 AM

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QUOTE(PedangGila @ Aug 7 2015, 03:20 PM)
Haha I used the wrong word la. Was browsing nengun website so the word stuck in my head. I mean he dealt directly with dealer which should be a local one. That aside but a 50 thickness in a myvi already insane la. That oil mustve go down to 30 during high temp so maybe thats the trick.
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Erm.. no. If the oil says 10W50 that means it's 50 viscosity at 100 deg Celsius. It'll never go "down" to 30. Once a 50, always a 50. And that's a cheap mineral 50. It's not a suitable oil for the Myvi regardless! Unless he's turbo charged, then maybe.

QUOTE(Albertlee @ Aug 8 2015, 12:30 AM)
Hi all,

I am a suzuki swift owner (manufactured in 2013), current: mileage 60k. All the while I sent my car back to suzuki centre to do the service due to it's under warranty. But due to the expensive charges (a simple minor service costs rm400) and the fully sync EO (rm210 they charge) they used is actually just Petronas brand, so I plan to buy the EO at spare parts shop and get it change at workshop outside.

I have gone through some researches, having difficulties to choose between Total Quartz 9000 SN Future 5w30 and Mobil1 0w40, your suggestion please?

My selection criteria:
My work requires frequent travel, 2.5 months can travel 10k km. That's why I choose a fully sync EO, so that I do not need to change it that frequently.
Understand that the said EO might be more expensive than common EO, but I am willing to pay slightly more to get good quality (perhaps better protection + better fuel consumption) EO for my car.

Thanks.  notworthy.gif
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The manufacturer uses 5W30, stick with 5W30 la. 0W30 / 5W30 / 10W30 all is fine. I personally wouldn't use Total and personally I think Petronas oils are quite good. Just over priced like Mobil 1.
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QUOTE(izso @ Aug 10 2015, 08:31 AM)
Erm.. no. If the oil says 10W50 that means it's 50 viscosity at 100 deg Celsius. It'll never go "down" to 30. Once a 50, always a 50. And that's a cheap mineral 50. It's not a suitable oil for the Myvi regardless! Unless he's turbo charged, then maybe.
The manufacturer uses 5W30, stick with 5W30 la. 0W30 / 5W30 / 10W30 all is fine. I personally wouldn't use Total and personally I think Petronas oils are quite good. Just over priced like Mobil 1.
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QUOTE(LittleBear @ Aug 8 2015, 08:11 AM)
Stick with the 5W30 FS oil from Total.. Your car is still new so I don't think your car needs the Mobil 0W40.

Suzuki recommends to use 5W30 weight oil so it's better to stick to it.
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Thanks Izso and LittleBear for your replies. Yea, just got my engine oil change today. I use the Total 9000 Fully sync 5w30. Will monitor the performance nod.gif

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