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 Engine Oil Reviews/Technical talk v2, Everything Automotive lubricants/fluids

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post Jul 23 2015, 07:37 AM

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QUOTE(RigerZ @ Jul 22 2015, 09:17 PM)
Hi guys, my friend bought this 4L Castrol engine oil, but the packaging is different compared to other Castrol products. I tried searching for this particular oil but cant find any matches. Was my friend cheated or something?
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Is that the Tection series? But 20W50 probably means it's mineral. I can't find any info on this. But looks suspiciously like the Tection Extra series, usually used on trucks and buses.
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post Jul 24 2015, 02:38 PM

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Hi all, got a question regarding a problem im facing with my kelisa. Recently my O2 sensor went kaput and needed a new one.

My question is, after installing a new one does the mechanic need to do some resetting, tweaks, setup on the cars ECU? or is it ready to go? I am thinking of just doing it myself, so any opinions on this matter?

Also does anyone know any shops that can do this type of repair?The service center is quoting about 1k for the sensor... blink.gif blink.gif

Your help and advises is highly appreciated.

This post has been edited by mhyug: Jul 24 2015, 02:39 PM
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post Jul 24 2015, 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(mhyug @ Jul 24 2015, 02:38 PM)
Hi all, got a question regarding a problem im facing with my kelisa. Recently my O2 sensor went kaput and needed a new one.

My question is, after installing a new one does the mechanic need to do some resetting, tweaks, setup on the cars ECU? or is it ready to go? I am thinking of just doing it myself, so any opinions on this matter?

Also does anyone know any shops that can do this type of repair?The service center is quoting about 1k for the sensor... blink.gif  blink.gif

Your help and advises is highly appreciated.
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just change and ready to go.

and you posted in wrong thread. O2 sensor has little to do with engine oil/automotive lubricants or fluids.
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post Jul 24 2015, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jul 24 2015, 02:45 PM)
just change and ready to go.

and you posted in wrong thread. O2 sensor has little to do with engine oil/automotive lubricants or fluids.
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okay. but sort of technical stand point i think it is in the right thread plus it is connected to the engine. smile.gif

but cheers anyway thanks for the answer.
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post Jul 24 2015, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(mhyug @ Jul 24 2015, 03:17 PM)
okay. but sort of technical stand point i think it is in the right thread plus it is connected to the engine. smile.gif

but cheers anyway thanks for the answer.
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You're welcome.

for the pricing, you'll get better feedback on the kelisa threads at car club section.
take note though, o2 sensors are in that price range and no surprise if it really is 1k especially since SC's also tend to have higher prices.
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post Jul 24 2015, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jul 24 2015, 03:20 PM)
You're welcome.

for the pricing, you'll get better feedback on the kelisa threads at car club section.
take note though, o2 sensors are in that price range and no surprise if it really is 1k especially since SC's also tend to have higher prices.
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i see. wow a sensor so much cost. but at least now i know that its just something you install and its ready to go, solving my engine warning light issue.
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post Jul 24 2015, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(mhyug @ Jul 24 2015, 03:29 PM)
i see. wow a sensor so much cost. but at least now i know that its just something you install and its ready to go, solving my engine warning light issue.
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if you in kepong area, can consider cleaning the sensors first:
http://store.zhapalang.com.my/product_info...roducts_id=2059

and then he can help reset the error code via obd connection and see if it still persist
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post Jul 24 2015, 04:34 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jul 24 2015, 03:39 PM)
if you in kepong area, can consider cleaning the sensors first:
http://store.zhapalang.com.my/product_info...roducts_id=2059

and then he can help reset the error code via obd connection and see if it still persist
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would love to do a clean up but that sensor damaged physically. blush.gif cables snapped and the top part housing/casing half broken.
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QUOTE(mhyug @ Jul 24 2015, 04:34 PM)
would love to do a clean up but that sensor damaged physically. blush.gif cables snapped and the top part housing/casing half broken.
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too bad then sad.gif
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QUOTE(izso @ Jul 23 2015, 07:37 AM)
Is that the Tection series? But 20W50 probably means it's mineral. I can't find any info on this. But looks suspiciously like the Tection Extra series, usually used on trucks and buses.
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If it's a Tection series oil, wouldn't the packaging say so in big words like the rest of their products?
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post Jul 24 2015, 11:33 PM

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Here's the dilemma of engine oil use:

use LiquiMolly that can last 7000km

used it for 1 year 3 months because low mileage only clocked 5000km.

Is it safe to wait till 7000km? Appreciate some mechanical/chemistry lesson on engine oil.
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post Jul 25 2015, 12:17 AM

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QUOTE(lowya @ Jul 24 2015, 11:33 PM)
Here's the dilemma of engine oil use:

use LiquiMolly that can last 7000km

used it for 1 year 3 months because low mileage only clocked 5000km.

Is it safe to wait till 7000km? Appreciate some mechanical/chemistry lesson on engine oil.
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if amsoil 40k km EO still recommended 1 year change, your lm is in a much worse shape.

you want a sure answer, do a used oil analysis. else if you want to be on the safe side, change immediately.
remember, km or months WHICHEVER FIRST.
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post Jul 25 2015, 08:44 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jul 25 2015, 12:17 AM)
if amsoil 40k km EO still recommended 1 year change, your lm is in a much worse shape.

you want a sure answer, do a used oil analysis. else if you want to be on the safe side, change immediately.
remember, km or months WHICHEVER FIRST.
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it could be either the auto industry wants a regular business that they suggest 'whichever first', unless someone could prove something like engine oil is not stable and oxidized after few months or 1 year of given mild usage below cycle limit.

I mean, did you see cooking oil, or any other oil stating this statement like such?

any one else with a different view/experience?


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post Jul 25 2015, 08:47 AM

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QUOTE(lowya @ Jul 25 2015, 08:44 AM)
it could be either the auto industry wants a regular business that they suggest 'whichever first', unless someone could prove something like engine oil is not stable and oxidized after few months or 1 year of given mild usage below cycle limit.

I mean, did you see cooking oil, or any other oil stating this statement like such?

any one else with a different view/experience?
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Go leave an engine oil out in open air.
Feel free to stimulate combustion and carbon as well as you wish , or even cooking it to around 100c heat cycles .

Again , if you're still skeptical and want hard concrete answer, may I suggest an used oil analysis ? smile.gif

Until you do that, not even I can give you a 100%/definitive answer smile.gif
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post Jul 28 2015, 01:03 AM

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Reading Doug's reply in this thread really would crack the short oci mindset especially on interpreting Fe where he said it doesn't reflect real world situation where the engine should've been fairly degraded way before the claimed 1M mark.
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post Jul 28 2015, 01:26 AM

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QUOTE(PedangGila @ Jul 28 2015, 01:03 AM)
Reading Doug's reply in this  thread really would crack the short oci mindset especially on interpreting Fe where he said it doesn't reflect real world situation where the engine should've been fairly degraded way before the claimed 1M mark.
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good info bro, will pin it on first page smile.gif
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post Jul 28 2015, 08:51 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jul 28 2015, 01:26 AM)
good info bro, will pin it on first page smile.gif
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It was for porsche tho. Those things eat 7 to almost 9 lit oil every service so maybe that's why they can afford the long haul but there's the oil cooler system which is standard in every porsche. We should be getting that too.
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Hey guys, anyone here used Magna EO before? any comments? would like to know if it is any good. BTW, i am using eneos now, would like to try this brand. thanks in advance
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QUOTE(PedangGila @ Jul 28 2015, 08:51 AM)
It was for porsche tho. Those things eat 7 to almost 9 lit oil every service so maybe that's why they can afford the long haul but there's the oil cooler system which is standard in every porsche. We should be getting that too.
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that is a rather "extreme"/exaggerated example and yes, as you said Porsche have much more oil capacity and oil coolers.

i certainly do not recommend 60k km/2 years OCI's for our cars that averages 3-4 liter oil capacity with small oil filters and no oil coolers.

however i most certainly advise longer oci than the ancient/traditional 5k km/3 months smile.gif
even official SC's are going for 10k km/6 months which are still much better than the traditional OCI mindsets.
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post Jul 28 2015, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(myeddylim @ Jul 28 2015, 09:05 AM)
Hey guys, anyone here used Magna EO before? any comments? would like to know if it is any good. BTW, i am using eneos now, would like to try this brand. thanks in advance
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this?
https://engineoil.api.org/Directory/EolcsRe...anyName%3Dmagna

if yes then go ahead.

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