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 Engine Oil Reviews/Technical talk v2, Everything Automotive lubricants/fluids

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wkc5657
post Jun 28 2016, 05:02 PM

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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Jun 28 2016, 02:45 PM)
Group IV is lousy base oil

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If you're assuming that group 5 is the best, then I do not agree to this statement. It all depends on application and for normal driving, group 5 could be harmful to your engine as it is hygroscopic, meaning it attracts water. If you race, nevermind as you throw away after a few runs. But on normal driving, with extended change intervals, the benefits are almost negligible at best against PAO. (complete reading the attachment for a crash course on base oils)

There are plenty of brands using group 3 and 2 in the markets and many cars are running fine with that.

http://www.synmaxperformancelubricants.com...resentation.pdf

QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jun 28 2016, 03:58 PM)
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Finally you're back, starting to machine gun people sweat.gif

Anyway, something you can consider to pin on front page if it serves the purpose in the knowledge of engine oil analysis.

http://www.enginebuildermag.com/2016/06/10...m-oil-analysis/

This post has been edited by wkc5657: Jun 28 2016, 05:04 PM
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post Jun 28 2016, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(sanadi @ Jun 28 2016, 04:54 PM)
Group IV is PAO. Mobil 1 0W-40 is PAO. PAO are better than Group II & Group III. GTL Group III is almost as good as PAO.

PAO has very high viscosity index, therefore its viscosity is less affected by temperature compared to Group II. So I'm wondering how can you say Group IV is not good.
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My mistake. I got it the other way around. Thanks for pointing it out.

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post Jun 28 2016, 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Jun 28 2016, 05:02 PM)
If you're assuming that group 5 is the best, then I do not agree to this statement. It all depends on application and for normal driving, group 5 could be harmful to your engine as it is hygroscopic, meaning it attracts water. If you race, nevermind as you throw away after a few runs. But on normal driving, with extended change intervals, the benefits are almost negligible at best against PAO. (complete reading the attachment for a crash course on base oils)

There are plenty of brands using group 3 and 2 in the markets and many cars are running fine with that.

http://www.synmaxperformancelubricants.com...resentation.pdf
Finally you're back, starting to machine gun people  sweat.gif

Anyway, something you can consider to pin on front page if it serves the purpose in the knowledge of engine oil analysis.

http://www.enginebuildermag.com/2016/06/10...m-oil-analysis/
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My apology. My mistake. I got it wrong the other way around.
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post Jun 28 2016, 05:39 PM

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post Jun 29 2016, 06:03 PM

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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Jun 28 2016, 05:02 PM)
If you're assuming that group 5 is the best, then I do not agree to this statement. It all depends on application and for normal driving, group 5 could be harmful to your engine as it is hygroscopic, meaning it attracts water. If you race, nevermind as you throw away after a few runs. But on normal driving, with extended change intervals, the benefits are almost negligible at best against PAO. (complete reading the attachment for a crash course on base oils)

There are plenty of brands using group 3 and 2 in the markets and many cars are running fine with that.

http://www.synmaxperformancelubricants.com...resentation.pdf
Finally you're back, starting to machine gun people  sweat.gif

Anyway, something you can consider to pin on front page if it serves the purpose in the knowledge of engine oil analysis.

http://www.enginebuildermag.com/2016/06/10...m-oil-analysis/
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group 5 is a catch all so claiming group 5 being hygroscopic isnt true either.
don't forget i've been using ester based lubricant for my late inspira and it didn't cause any problems and it also ran on 10k km/6 months oci.

i got discharged, still rehabilitating/recovering at home, but i can use my pc so things are a bit easier compared to the hospital smile.gif
ill check out the links later and will pin as needed, thanks nod.gif
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post Jun 29 2016, 08:47 PM

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welcome back Quazacolt
glad you are here again biggrin.gif
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post Jun 29 2016, 09:04 PM

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QUOTE(g9000z @ Jun 29 2016, 08:47 PM)
welcome back Quazacolt
glad you are here again biggrin.gif
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thanks smile.gif
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post Jun 30 2016, 09:53 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jun 29 2016, 06:03 PM)
i got discharged, still rehabilitating/recovering at home, but i can use my pc so things are a bit easier compared to the hospital smile.gif
ill check out the links later and will pin as needed, thanks nod.gif
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Doctor give you MC for how long?
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post Jun 30 2016, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Jun 30 2016, 09:53 AM)
Doctor give you MC for how long?
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mid or end of july
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post Jun 30 2016, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jun 30 2016, 10:42 AM)
mid or end of july
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What a bad series of events that happened to you. Not too long ago, you totaled your car. Now your bike also kena totaled.

Thankfully, you yourself not totally totaled, but still quite a bad injury on you...

Both financially and physically kena hit, must be tough on you and your family....
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post Jun 30 2016, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Jun 30 2016, 01:26 PM)
What a bad series of events that happened to you. Not too long ago, you totaled your car. Now your bike also kena totaled.

Thankfully, you yourself not totally totaled, but still quite a bad injury on you...

Both financially and physically kena hit, must be tough on you and your family....
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oh no, the bike is in a much better shape than i am, as if nothing happened.

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getting a bit OT here, so if you wish to continue do pm, or use the existing thread on kopitiam (do a search)

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Jun 30 2016, 01:44 PM
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post Jun 30 2016, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jun 30 2016, 01:43 PM)
oh no, the bike is in a much better shape than i am, as if nothing happened.

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getting a bit OT here, so if you wish to continue do pm, or use the existing thread on kopitiam (do a search)
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oops, what happened bro? didnt notice you were met with an accident.
all ok with you? bike just leave it be, so long as you are still ok.....
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QUOTE(kevraul @ Jun 30 2016, 03:13 PM)
oops, what happened bro? didnt notice you were met with an accident.
all ok with you? bike just leave it be, so long as you are still ok.....
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to avoid being OT, refer here: https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3948948/+340
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post Jun 30 2016, 05:01 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jun 30 2016, 03:47 PM)
to avoid being OT, refer here: https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3948948/+340
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wow......
speedy recovery bro!!
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QUOTE(chemistry @ May 10 2016, 06:54 PM)
How much are they?
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Is the molygen the latest range from liqui moly? Anyone tried? Is it fully synthetic?it says is SN. MoS2 range is SL, a little outdated for me.
Liqui moly only has their special tec AA listed in API website, SN. But I'm kind of eager to try their oil.

How about the penrite enviro 5w30? Also listed inside API website. Anyone tried before?
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QUOTE(efaceninja @ Jul 2 2016, 08:58 AM)
Is the molygen the latest range from liqui moly? Anyone tried? Is it fully synthetic?it says is SN.  MoS2 range is SL, a little outdated for me.
Liqui moly only has their special tec AA listed in API website, SN.  But I'm kind of eager to try their oil.

How about the penrite enviro 5w30? Also listed inside API website.  Anyone tried before?
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penrite enviro i believe izso highly recommends it

if you're adventurous/keen on 0w20 penrite racing, do pm me.
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QUOTE(efaceninja @ Jul 2 2016, 08:58 AM)
Is the molygen the latest range from liqui moly? Anyone tried? Is it fully synthetic?it says is SN.  MoS2 range is SL, a little outdated for me.
Liqui moly only has their special tec AA listed in API website, SN.  But I'm kind of eager to try their oil.

How about the penrite enviro 5w30? Also listed inside API website.  Anyone tried before?
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What I have now is Motul 8100 X Clean FE 5w30.
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post Jul 3 2016, 10:42 PM

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This afternoon changed my EO to motul 300v 5w30, first time using this oil pair with Project mu oil filter
previous EO was Torco Sr1 5w30 with Work engineering oil filter.

Less sluggish compare to torco, i feel that my car more smooth during high speed...tongue.gif

This post has been edited by mls_gamer: Jul 3 2016, 10:43 PM
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QUOTE(mls_gamer @ Jul 3 2016, 10:42 PM)
This afternoon changed my EO to motul 300v 5w30, first time using this oil pair with Project mu oil filter
previous EO was Torco Sr1 5w30 with Work engineering oil filter.

Less sluggish compare to torco, i feel that my car more smooth during high speed...tongue.gif
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How much you paid for 300V and Torco SR1?
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post Jul 4 2016, 09:12 AM

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QUOTE(mls_gamer @ Jul 3 2016, 10:42 PM)
This afternoon changed my EO to motul 300v 5w30, first time using this oil pair with Project mu oil filter
previous EO was Torco Sr1 5w30 with Work engineering oil filter.

Less sluggish compare to torco, i feel that my car more smooth during high speed...tongue.gif
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Clean engine oil of course feel smoother la laugh.gif

I feel likewise when changing fresh shell and tesco engine oil of my old car. Give it a few thousand km, then the only will see how substantial the difference will be.

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