Fosser isn't care aboout API, they do not sell in US market anyway.
As for ACEA, they are. Else they will not be liable to put the sticker on their products. I'm sure you know that the business practice in Europe is different than here.
Malaysia local brands, even though if they have API but the oil that they sell might not be the one that they sent for certification. Well NASA have API, does JTX have API too?
How reliable is API? As they do not audit the plant, which ACEA do.

As for Fosser Premium VS 5w40, we been told they are using Group IV base oil.

Another information that actually validate the minimum quality of Fosser by Duran Oil would be the manufacturer certification.
Unless someone doubt Mercedes Benz.

Most of the Fosser oils either MB229.1, MB229.3 or MB229.51 certified.

https://bevo.mercedes-benz.com/bevolisten/229.3_en.html
https://bevo.mercedes-benz.com/bevolisten/229.51_en.html


* I'm not trying to do advertisement here, that's why I keep my thread in the garage sales. It just someone who tried the product that we imported and share their experience here. Its engine oil discussion anyway. Suddenly someone accused him of shitty advertisement. A non technical person will not know all those ACEA/API or whatever group of base oil being used to produce. Thanks anyway to naveenkalai7

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https://engineoil.api.org/directory/eolcssearch
help me search here then

so long the 0w20 is from reputable brand/proper certifications, yes.

ah it's a pity you're now a seller and obviously are taking on a side.

i'll keep this simple and objective:
show us ACEA directory or maybe an email from an ACEA official stating fosser's certifications, as well as show us NASA's API certification from API public license directory.

you have to remember this thread's purpose though: objective technical discussion, NOT blatant advertising which your friend isn't so welcomed to do so
besides, i haven't even reported him, no need to be so uptight now right?

why you asking this to me? im not the seller nor the distributor.. im just a consumer who shared my experience.. you should ask the respective plp about those spec or cert..

oh i'm not familiar with fosser, maybe you can help us out then?

i already shared my experience with the oil bro.. if you want to know more perhaps you can go visit the workshop personally and check with the person in charge.. so you can get more information bro.. as a consumer, i did my part by sharing my personal experience by using it as other lyn members does..

Your information likely to be wrong because a 5W40 made from Group IV can no way be called "premium". Group IV is lousy base oil so the 5W40 must also be lousy. It's so bad that I am pretty sure your car manufacturers will void your warranty if you use them.

That's assuming you are right about it using Group IV base oil

This post has been edited by Optiplex330: Jun 28 2016, 02:46 PM

have you read through the first page of this thread bro?

do you even know the purpose of this thread?

it is here so that it will put an end to those so called "experiences" that everyone used to post prior to the existence of this thread.

all the "THIS OIL BEST!" "THIS OIL MANTAPS" without a single shred of technicality and evidence or certifications to back those claims.
no. i don't need to know more than what have already been put out. i doubt the workshops would even provide me more information if i even seek from them. they can provide us more information over here instead

I saw you only put API and ACEA logo on that page. Can also consider putting JASO there.

got it bro

after saw other's post about their experiences, thats why wanted to share my experiences bro.. hope we can get a clearer picture about your concerns so it would be useful for other readers.. anyway sorry for the inconveniences..

This post has been edited by naveenkalai7: Jun 28 2016, 03:30 PM

How is Group IV oil bad?

there is JASO for bikes however details for their passenger vehicle lubricant is a bit lacking for now

Thanks yea.. Wanting to try but then only a fee brands like millers and RP has it. Thats premium!

Honda has 0W-20 at rather affordable price right? Never used before so can't comment on the quality.
If you are willing to consider 5W-20 then it opens up to a lot more options. Afterall 0W or 5W shouldn't be a concern for our climate.

amsoil motul liquimoly eneos to name a few, and even a huge majority of oem brands like honda/toyota/nissan/mitsubishi/ford so on so forth.

I think they are into diesel engine oil.
http://www.jalos.or.jp/onfile/jaso_e-3-1.htm

I reckon they are OK if you are using that for making 15W40 oil but not if it's a 5W40. The range is too wide.

For your reference, Sir.

Group IV is PAO. Mobil 1 0W-40 is PAO. PAO are better than Group II & Group III. GTL Group III is almost as good as PAO.

PAO has very high viscosity index, therefore its viscosity is less affected by temperature compared to Group II. So I'm wondering how can you say Group IV is not good.