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Photography The Sony Alpha Thread V60, From A to E mount!

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mastering89
post Aug 16 2014, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(d4rkholeang3l @ Aug 15 2014, 09:58 AM)
AF on prime lens is not fast (unless it is SSM).
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i had 2 sigma lens prime
28mm old old more than 20 years old, af with screw mount still could lock pretty fast apart from noisy af.
50mm sigma with hsm seems fast enough for my use which is great.

all depends ur technique of focussing la
point to contrasty area easier to focus, depends on lighting condition, af points (cross type), lens that support AF-D, blah2.
if still cannot then peeking mode all the way. biggrin.gif

now working nearby putrajaya can go sunrise & sunset everyday rclxm9.gif
sorry if seems gelap, edit on phone ony sweat.gif

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post Aug 16 2014, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(Neo_Y @ Aug 16 2014, 11:13 AM)
Just got myself the prime portrait/street lens (SEL35F18) paired with my A6000.
Now with all the wide-angle poisons floating around here, so which are the best "budget" wide-angle lenses I should get next?
I was eyeing the Sony 16mm f/2.8 E, Sony 20mm f/2.8 E and Sigma 19mm f/2.8 DN E.
Sony 10-18mm f/4 OSS E and Sony Zeiss 24mm f/1.8 E are way out of budget, they almost cost a camera body and I only a newcomer who surely can't fully utilize it to the best outcome.
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I am a user of Sigma 19mm. If you want sharpness, go for this lens but bear in mind, it is not exactly a wide angle lens. But If you want wider, you can always go for Sony 16mm (which can be used with the fisheye adapter but sacrifice corner sharpness). Else, go for Samyang fisheye!


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post Aug 16 2014, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(Neo_Y @ Aug 16 2014, 11:13 AM)
Just got myself the prime portrait/street lens (SEL35F18) paired with my A6000.
Now with all the wide-angle poisons floating around here, so which are the best "budget" wide-angle lenses I should get next?
I was eyeing the Sony 16mm f/2.8 E, Sony 20mm f/2.8 E and Sigma 19mm f/2.8 DN E.
Sony 10-18mm f/4 OSS E and Sony Zeiss 24mm f/1.8 E are way out of budget, they almost cost a camera body and I only a newcomer who surely can't fully utilize it to the best outcome.
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In terms of price-performance ratio, Sigma 19mm f/2.8 DN E should top the list, if you're ok with no OSS.
One of my shot taken with Sigma 19mm F2.8 EX DN (not art series).

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post Aug 16 2014, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(d4rkholeang3l @ Aug 16 2014, 06:38 AM)
polarizer depends on the angle of light source for maximum effect. UWA can capture a wide FOV (larger angles), thus some angles above a certain threshold does not give the maximum polarizing effect. That's why u will see some parts are bright.
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Dear Pay Ng. its not angle of light, but the angle of light wavelength. polarizer works with wavelength, not angle of light dude. wavelength is under Physics.... due to the angle of wavelength travels from the side of the lens angle, the polarizer were unable to cut off the angle of wavelength, hence it did not cut off the light as it suppose to.

as for the Variable ND, u will get X-crosses effect at certain angle on UWA due to the angle of light wavelength escape the polarizing.

do u wan banana?

QUOTE(Neo_Y @ Aug 16 2014, 11:13 AM)
Just got myself the prime portrait/street lens (SEL35F18) paired with my A6000.
Now with all the wide-angle poisons floating around here, so which are the best "budget" wide-angle lenses I should get next?
I was eyeing the Sony 16mm f/2.8 E, Sony 20mm f/2.8 E and Sigma 19mm f/2.8 DN E.
Sony 10-18mm f/4 OSS E and Sony Zeiss 24mm f/1.8 E are way out of budget, they almost cost a camera body and I only a newcomer who surely can't fully utilize it to the best outcome.
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note: not aiming at you, but in general, why does ppl think 16-20mm is comparable to a 10-18 ultra wide angle? totally diff thing, totally diff effect, totally diff impact on the photo.


uraki: 16mm also no OSS. sweat.gif

and generally, i dont understand why ppl generalize 16mm as not sharp(corner)? at F2.8, generally all wide angle arent sharp in corner due to distortion via deflection in the lens group. all wide angle requires to stop down to gain corner sharpness... even the famous sharp tokina 11-16 is soft in corners until stopped to F8. even SEL1018 requires to stop down a little more to gain prefect sweet spot.
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post Aug 16 2014, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(edpaul @ Aug 16 2014, 03:09 PM)
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Dear Pay Ng. its not angle of light, but the angle of light wavelength. polarizer works with wavelength, not angle of light dude. wavelength is under Physics.... due to the angle of wavelength travels from the side of the lens angle, the polarizer were unable to cut off the angle of wavelength, hence it did not cut off the light as it suppose to.

as for the Variable ND, u will get X-crosses effect at certain angle on UWA due to the angle of light wavelength escape the polarizing.

do u wan banana?
note: not aiming at you, but in general, why does ppl think 16-20mm is comparable to a 10-18 ultra wide angle? totally diff thing, totally diff effect, totally diff impact on the photo.
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just roughly know how polarize filter works...
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post Aug 16 2014, 05:13 PM

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QUOTE(d4rkholeang3l @ Aug 15 2014, 08:43 PM)
35mm and 50mm fast har? ask yourself.
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yup, asked myself... yes it's fast
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post Aug 16 2014, 08:58 PM

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QUOTE(edpaul @ Aug 16 2014, 03:09 PM)
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Dear Pay Ng. its not angle of light, but the angle of light wavelength. polarizer works with wavelength, not angle of light dude. wavelength is under Physics.... due to the angle of wavelength travels from the side of the lens angle, the polarizer were unable to cut off the angle of wavelength, hence it did not cut off the light as it suppose to.

as for the Variable ND, u will get X-crosses effect at certain angle on UWA due to the angle of light wavelength escape the polarizing.

do u wan banana?
u need to get the facts right man. there's no such thing as angle of wavelength. the closest thing to that is every wavelength of light has a different critical angle but we assume that light is just one wavelength, thus when we do third order approximation (real life), aberrations occur, but that is not in this topic.

As for why polarizer does not work with UWA, go read on Malus Law. the formula is I = I0 (cos (x))^2, where x is the angle between the initial light polarization and axis of polarizer and I0 is the initial intensity of light.

Since I0 is constant initially, the only thing affecting the intensity after the light passes through the polarizer is the value x. But then, the cos x can only result in values between 0 and 1 (and by extension, (cos x)^2 is the same too)

That is why you will have varying intensity throughout the frame because the angle is different.


Source: Wikipedia, and I am a Physics student. took this blardy course last semester lol.

p. S. I'm Ray Ng, not Pay
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Does anyone joining the Sony Alpha Super Workshop next week??
http://www.sony.com.my/microsite/AlphaSuperWorkshop/
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post Aug 16 2014, 09:23 PM

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QUOTE(LeoWillis @ Aug 16 2014, 09:09 PM)
Does anyone joining the Sony Alpha Super Workshop next week??
http://www.sony.com.my/microsite/AlphaSuperWorkshop/
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now only ask? haha. just kidding

anyway, i believe most of alpha user may attend this workshop
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post Aug 16 2014, 09:55 PM

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QUOTE(LeoWillis @ Aug 16 2014, 09:09 PM)
Does anyone joining the Sony Alpha Super Workshop next week??
http://www.sony.com.my/microsite/AlphaSuperWorkshop/
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no cost?
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QUOTE(nixonyang @ Aug 16 2014, 09:55 PM)
no cost?
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i believe no. sony didn't mentioned of we had to pay upfront
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QUOTE(nixonyang @ Aug 16 2014, 09:55 PM)
no cost?
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There is hotel checkin woh! no cost? Sony so generous? If 1000 people go, how they afford? shocking.gif
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Aug 17 2014, 06:38 AM)
There is hotel checkin woh! no cost? Sony so generous? If 1000 people go, how they afford?  shocking.gif
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i believe this time is limited seat
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QUOTE(vincentlee90 @ Aug 17 2014, 06:39 AM)
i believe this time is limited seat
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ya. don't know still have seat or not. laugh.gif
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post Aug 17 2014, 08:48 AM

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QUOTE(yok70 @ Aug 17 2014, 06:41 AM)
ya. don't know still have seat or not.  laugh.gif
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have a try for apply 1st?
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QUOTE(vincentlee90 @ Aug 17 2014, 08:48 AM)
have a try for apply 1st?
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I think need to pay since it's overnight. The website does not show much details other than schedule.

If anyone here registered please share info. Thanks!
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Eh, you guys did not register for the alpha super workshop?
Someone from Sony called me this morning for confirmation of attendance.

Sony fb page mentioned it is free and the person called me did not ask for payment so I'm pretty sure the workshop is FOC.
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QUOTE(uraki @ Aug 17 2014, 01:02 PM)
Eh, you guys did not register for the alpha super workshop?
Someone from Sony called me this morning for confirmation of attendance.

Sony fb page mentioned it is free and the person called me did not ask for payment so I'm pretty sure the workshop is FOC.
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cya there ya~ lol tongue.gif
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QUOTE(uraki @ Aug 17 2014, 01:02 PM)
Eh, you guys did not register for the alpha super workshop?
Someone from Sony called me this morning for confirmation of attendance.

Sony fb page mentioned it is free and the person called me did not ask for payment so I'm pretty sure the workshop is FOC.
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wow! sony rreally doing great marketing here! bravo! this is great that it shows Sony is getting very serious on their camera business, great for all Sony camera users (inclusive myself). rclxms.gif

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