What type of rescue....hardcore one or nego one??

PRC is softer when dealing with us compare to vietnam & philipine.... thanks to diplomacy effort

Joint Ops

kalo ikut sources aku

tukar timah panas!

Waitlah makan at the top first Vietnam and Phillipines.

Next in line will be Malaysia.

So Malaysia China relation plus by 100 points??

what is this

there is a reason why the ops is take place in this period of time
well najib was suppose to be in China

ni, you can find the answer at the bottom

http://rentaka.weebly.com/blog/rentaka-di-...-pameran-statik

BTW here is a 7 part full report on TUDM Media day by rentaka journalist

http://rentaka.weebly.com/blog/rentaka-di-...rasi-force-down

everywhere in SEA got new militray purchase, we are one of the only that have not done any significant purchase apart from the Gowind purchase

but from the rumored gowind specs, kinda a little disappointment that it cant even afford a proper ciws for that kind of price


So many list to buy but no money spared by govement

I forwarded the same question to yinchet, he will explain to you the deal also includes the expenditure to build and upgrade boustead shipyards that can support 3000+ tonnes vessels, the ToT to build ships and then the ships itself.

So the whole deal is, Shipyards + Ship building ToT + Ships, not just ships (sgpv)
I hope future local procurement will be justified in terms of cost cuz the infras is ady there (shipyards, tech and factory)

aren't this also the same deal that we suppose to get with NGPV?

let me say the usual word famous in /k - "songlap"

Gowind is bigger and the tonnage capacity is almost double of that meko design

Though I got no problem if the gomen just pursue the meko design for batch 2 of kedah class instead of new gowind design,
Patent issue? I dunno

only msia punya under equipped .. tengok when pinoy attack dat time even prc better equipped

hostage exchange.. wif milf members n some from d kiram event dat got caught

gov spending more to ramp up d economy... coz next election if no good will kena kick out

Again...AV8 project is way too expensive. With $2.4 billion, that's equal to $10 million per vehicle, more expensive than the most expensive MBTs in the market, K2 and Leclerc.

Is it really necessary to spend that much on the R&D of an APC platform?


APCs are disposable assets in the battlefield. Like relatively high destruction rate of M113 in Vietnam and BTRs in Afghanistan. APCs are supposed to be cheap and no one would expect them to last long in more intense engagements.


As comparison, Indonesia modifies the basic VAB design.


It becomes Anoa, the gun turret is move behind the driver to provide more room and make RCWS installation easier. Also an extra pair of wheels are added. Including weapons, Anoa only costs $800,000 and multiple variants have been developed.


Yes....the interior is simple; just like a truck with navigation, communication and perhaps BMS in some units. But at least it is cheap, won't miss it if a couple of them destroyed in battles.



This post has been edited by Frozen_Sun: May 31 2014, 09:25 AM

There were no issue on the kedah class batch2.
boustead did submit bidding on her own design based on meko class unfortunately they lost.
German counter part also did offer meko cls design but it was the most expensive among all bidder design.

As for sgpv it does allocate large portion of its cost on the shipyard upgrade. I would not be surprised if it cost over usd200mil for the upgrade.

yup, bcoz we already their beetch

Just curious. Does our local defense industry have the ability to make produce our own armaments like the missiles, mortars, bullets and stuff like Indonesia is starting to do? Because during the Falklands War, France actually helped the UK against their own customers (the Argentinians) by giving them the detailed intel and source code on the hardware they sold to them after the UK suffered significant losses (including a Destroyer or two) from the French-made missiles. If we can develop our own armaments then we wouldn't have to depend on foreign countries as much since they wouldn't think twice about turning on us and assisting any of our "enemies".

K2 in early production cost more than usd15mil.
now they manage to drive it down toward usd9mil depending on equipment adding on.
Amx still farking expensive fully equip with all the gadget it will cost you around usd27mil

As for AV8 the biggest problem it have is to developed 12 variants in one go. That crazy and over ambitious, it certainly will drive up the cost significantly.
too many variant; too little on economy of scale.
Apparently those who involved in these deal forget that we are not US.

Well currently APC is no longer cheaps as it use to be, now it developed into a whole new level of ifv, take cv90s or amv for example it take them billions of dollars to developed into current level.

Lastly I dun think it fairs to compare anoa and av8.
Av8 is on different level in term of protection, situation awareness, ncw, weapons, and role in the battlefield.

Somehow qft.
If you can't beat them join them lor.