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Investment DAMANSARA FORESTA (V2) [OWNERS' THREAD], A new development near Desa ParkCity

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post Jun 10 2014, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(Skyvi @ Jun 10 2014, 12:17 AM)
Starting to make way for phase 2 seem?

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Master plan showing phase 2

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post Jun 10 2014, 09:43 PM

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QUOTE(Skyvi @ Jun 10 2014, 12:36 AM)
Block progress update until 7th June:
Block A = 35 floors
Block B = 28 floors
Block C = 12 floors
Block D = 23 floors

1.5 years to go...
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Look like they are able to make it on time.


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post Jun 10 2014, 10:10 PM

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QUOTE(CMW123 @ Jun 10 2014, 02:02 PM)
Master plan showing phase 2

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This is the entire plan for all 4 phases if not wrong
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post Jun 10 2014, 10:14 PM

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QUOTE(eddychstu @ Jun 10 2014, 10:10 PM)
This is the entire plan for all 4 phases if not wrong
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Yes, total 12 towers. Phase 2 lowest density with 2 towers
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post Jun 10 2014, 11:17 PM

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That day someone mention about the balcony .. Is not totally glass but with steel to sokong.

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post Jun 11 2014, 01:42 AM

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QUOTE(CMW123 @ Jun 10 2014, 01:59 PM)
All 4 block together lah...they all share the same access and common properties
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Block A & B definitely will be hand over at same time since S&P is signed on same timing too. Block C or D might be later though, as developer would like to avoid LAD, they will hang over even when common facilities not yet complete provided road access & car park is done. Others area to be continue for touch up...just my 2cents.
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QUOTE(Skyvi @ Jun 11 2014, 02:42 AM)
Block A & B definitely will be hand over at same time since S&P is signed on same timing too. Block C or D might be later though, as developer would like to avoid LAD, they will hang over even when common facilities not yet complete provided road access & car park is done. Others area to be continue for touch up...just my 2cents.
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If I'm planning for the works, I would assign more resources to finish up the podium, car parks and common facilities and less resources on block C and D as there is still time.
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post Jun 11 2014, 09:18 AM

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At the end of the day, it is upto L&G whether they wish to build up a good reputation to spur the sales of subsequent phases
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post Jun 11 2014, 09:18 AM

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QUOTE(CMW123 @ Jun 10 2014, 11:14 PM)
Yes, total 12 towers. Phase 2 lowest density with 2 towers
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If you were to calculate the ratio of the podium footprint versus tower size, Phase 2 is not the lowest density.
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post Jun 11 2014, 09:34 AM

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QUOTE(GangHo @ Jun 11 2014, 09:18 AM)
If you were to calculate the ratio of the podium footprint versus tower size, Phase 2 is not the lowest density.
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For residential land, the authorities control by maximum number of units per acre

For Phase 1, 928 units over about 13 acres so that's about 70 over units per acre

Doubt that the developer will not max max to the maximum units

Maybe Phase 2 will even be higher than the 37 levels of Phase 1 if it's still 8 units per floor to keep the privacy

Not forgetting that Phase 2 land is actually lower than Phase 1

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how are the elevators like, public(open to all resident) or private(only for the particular block/floor/unit)?
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post Jun 11 2014, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(Skyvi @ Jun 11 2014, 01:42 AM)
Block A & B definitely will be hand over at same time since S&P is signed on same timing too. Block C or D might be later though, as developer would like to avoid LAD, they will hang over even when common facilities not yet complete provided road access & car park is done. Others area to be continue for touch up...just my 2cents.
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Technically developer got 1 APDL for the entire phase 1, APDL = advertising permit and developing licence. This licence starts on the same day and will be ended on the same day, when developer submit for vacant possession they need to make sure all units are ready as 1 development. The authority will access the entire development in one go when approving the vp, not block by block.

If block A and B handovered to home purchasers without the common facilities ready like swimming pool, gym, landscaping, playground, car parks (which all 4 blocks sharing the same building but different floor), then purchasers can file complains to the tribunal on the above matter. The amount safe on LAD is insignificant compared to pay the compensation imposed by tribunal.

Furthermore vp can't be obtained if block C and D still under construction due to safety reasons. This development is under Schedule H, unlike those under commercial title like ED, ES where vped given without common facilities ready.

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QUOTE(CMW123 @ Jun 11 2014, 10:34 AM)
For residential land, the authorities control by maximum number of units per acre

For Phase 1, 928 units over about 13 acres so that's about 70 over units per acre

Doubt that the developer will not max max to the maximum units

Maybe Phase 2 will even be higher than the 37 levels of Phase 1 if it's still 8 units per floor to keep the privacy

Not forgetting that Phase 2 land is actually lower than Phase 1

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So you are basically saying that phase 2 will be even higher density if the developer keeps 8 units per floor.

They might go for bigger unit(i.e. 2000 sq-ft or bigger). That would help to reduce the density.
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post Jun 11 2014, 10:06 AM

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QUOTE(GangHo @ Jun 11 2014, 09:41 AM)
So you are basically saying that phase 2 will be even higher density if the developer keeps 8 units per floor.

They might go for bigger unit(i.e. 2000 sq-ft or bigger). That would help to reduce the density.
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Density is measured by no of units over the size of footprint. Based on below info, total 452 units so not sure about the land size and if its about 50% of phase 1, the density is about the same. Per tower is 226 units. If 226 units over 8 units per floor, that's 28 storey. Plus carpark maybe 3 storey, that would be 31 storey high. But this is duplex so it cannot be (28*2)+4 = 59 storey. So there should be more than 8 units per floor becoz for a 1200 duplex unit, it could be 700 sf lower and 500 sf upper.


The Foresta Phase 2, consisting two condominium towers of 452 units, has a target gross development value of RM500mil. “The units are between 1,200 sq ft (sf) to 2,000 sf and while we have not finalised the selling price as it will be launched a year from now, we’re estimating a range from RM700 per sf.”
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QUOTE(CMW123 @ Jun 11 2014, 11:06 AM)
Density is measured by no of units over the size of footprint. Based on below info, total 452 units so not sure about the land size and if its about 50% of phase 1, the density is about the same. Per tower is 226 units. If 226 units over 8 units per floor, that's 28 storey. Plus carpark maybe 3 storey, that would be 31 storey high. But this is duplex so it cannot be (28*2)+4 = 59 storey. So there should be more than 8 units per floor becoz for a 1200 duplex unit, it could be 700 sf lower and 500 sf upper. 
The Foresta Phase 2, consisting two condominium towers of 452 units, has a target gross development value of RM500mil. “The units are between 1,200 sq ft (sf) to 2,000 sf and while we have not finalised the selling price as it will be launched a year from now, we’re estimating a range from RM700 per sf.”
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Very clear analysis. Thanks! Totally agree with what you said above.

From naked eye, i judge that phase 2 footprint is less than 50% of phase 1.

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QUOTE(CMW123 @ Jun 11 2014, 10:06 AM)
Density is measured by no of units over the size of footprint. Based on below info, total 452 units so not sure about the land size and if its about 50% of phase 1, the density is about the same. Per tower is 226 units. If 226 units over 8 units per floor, that's 28 storey. Plus carpark maybe 3 storey, that would be 31 storey high. But this is duplex so it cannot be (28*2)+4 = 59 storey. So there should be more than 8 units per floor becoz for a 1200 duplex unit, it could be 700 sf lower and 500 sf upper. 
The Foresta Phase 2, consisting two condominium towers of 452 units, has a target gross development value of RM500mil. “The units are between 1,200 sq ft (sf) to 2,000 sf and while we have not finalised the selling price as it will be launched a year from now, we’re estimating a range from RM700 per sf.”
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there is some correction, for residential area the density is base on the population per acre. Standard is 400 org / acre. All majlis do hav tolerance for how many people per unit but as standard is 5/unit.
So just an example:

for phase 1 total land will be 13 acre
density allow for residential will be 400 people / acre
number people / unit will be 5

= 13 acre x 400 /5
= the max unit will be around 1040.

this is a norm for calculation just sharing. u all may try other project it wont be much difference.

back to the phase 2 if the unit is 452
than the land size will be 452 x 5 /400 = around 5.65 acre

so if the developer tell u his project is low density than it should have much much less than 400/acre if not it is tipu nia.

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post Jun 11 2014, 03:17 PM

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What is the price PSF that existing buyers paid? Can share?
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post Jun 11 2014, 05:51 PM

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QUOTE(lch78 @ Jun 11 2014, 04:17 PM)
What is the price PSF that existing buyers paid? Can share?
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I bought at about RM6xx per sqft

The initial price started from RM400 per sqft(lowest floor) onward during launching as the higher floors were fetching higher price.

You could refer to propwall for further info.


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post Jun 11 2014, 07:24 PM

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QUOTE(fongozic @ Jun 10 2014, 11:17 PM)
That day someone mention about the balcony .. Is not totally glass but with steel to sokong.
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Honestly, I don't mind that. It will provide more safety especially there are young children.

Still eagerly waiting how the actual roof design will be.


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post Jun 11 2014, 08:02 PM

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From the project video, the roof garden looks very plain and with few waterproof sofa only

No landscape, No oomph at all...

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