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Investment DAMANSARA FORESTA (V2) [OWNERS' THREAD], A new development near Desa ParkCity

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post Jun 6 2014, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(GangHo @ Jun 6 2014, 04:57 PM)
Would think that Damansara Foresta price would stay strong due to the following reasons:-

1) Unique design - with those jungle trekking, special designed park opposite the development.

2) the very few freehold land left in the area.

3) Award winning - best residential tower.

4) Expanding Damansara development attracting more local and foreigners.
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1) Unique design - with those jungle trekking, special designed park opposite the development.
For people that really enjoy/appreciate nature - yeap, but otherwise not really unsure.gif


2) the very few freehold land left in the area.
got one, but damn pricey doh.gif


3) Award winning - best residential tower.
it may look and sound great - but its not completed,no surprise if the finish product is a tad bit different? no opportunity to even try-out the facilities yet laugh.gif
*touch wood* if unlucky,once completed with tenant staying - later sini bocor, sana koyak..you never know. I mean, even if developer promise 100% top quality, no way to keep an eye on all the workmanship from sub-con..too earlier to claim "best res. tower" imo


4) Expanding Damansara development attracting more local and foreigners.
BSD gonna be maximized di laugh.gif after that, massive jam every weekday morning(go work)..might be a turn-off to some, but investors will buy and sell, as they always do laugh.gif
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post Jun 7 2014, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(CMW123 @ Jun 6 2014, 03:19 PM)
Asking rental for the Azelia 3 rooms 1345 sf ranges from RM2800 to RM3200. Can Foresta fetch RM3000 rental after vp??

http://www.iproperty.com.my/property/searc...au=&ns=1&sby=ap
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I am more than willing to rent if can get RM3000 rental, this translate into > 6% rental yield for early birdies.
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post Jun 7 2014, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Jun 7 2014, 02:02 PM)
I am more than willing to rent if can get RM3000 rental, this translate into > 6% rental yield for early birdies.
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Agreed! 36,000 per annual plus capital increasing !
But also depend on that time is it market crisis?!
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post Jun 7 2014, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(stevecheahsw @ Jun 7 2014, 05:07 PM)
Agreed! 36,000 per annual plus capital increasing !
But also depend on that time is it market crisis?!
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Ppl/tenant needs a shelter to live even in the bad market.
Economic crisis doesn't stop marriage, new family creation, population growth and inflow of rural ppl to urban looking for jobs.

Can offer lower rent when it happens
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post Jun 7 2014, 09:46 PM

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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Jun 7 2014, 05:24 PM)
Ppl/tenant needs a shelter to live even in the bad market.
Economic crisis doesn't stop marriage, new family creation, population growth and inflow of rural ppl to urban looking for jobs.

Can offer lower rent when it happens
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Yes, Crisis = Job less, Cut salary, Difficult collect rental, reduce rental rate, difficult to sell.

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post Jun 7 2014, 10:48 PM

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In terms of residential property, I would think that the apartment/condo/residence with small build-up could be hit first. I would consider those property as higher risk.

A lot of ppl has bought this sort of properties because of the low entry level. Some might not have evaluated whether there is such a need in the market.

But then again, i believe that whatever crisis we are talking should be short-live(maybe 2-3 years) in my opinion.

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post Jun 8 2014, 10:22 AM

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Investment n rental value depends on lots of factors of the project itself as well as vs its competitors catering to the same clientele group. Location, amenities, local demographics, rental n subsale price, demand vs supply etc. Size is only one factor

For foresta, 928 units of 3 rooms family size. So bachelor, single expat, just married couple n those without 3k budget etc are ruled out. Unlikely to be cash flow positive for late buyers. Hopefully at least 50% own stayers upon 1st year of vp. Perhaps can attract more sri damansara residents or their second generation to switch from intermediate terrace to condo with facilities.

Forsee lower value for block A side facing phase 2 as after vp will be staring at the construction n block D facing highway n west sun
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post Jun 8 2014, 10:40 PM

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QUOTE(CMW123 @ Jun 8 2014, 11:22 AM)
Investment n rental value depends on lots of factors of the project itself as well as vs its competitors catering to the same clientele group. Location, amenities, local demographics, rental n subsale price, demand vs supply etc. Size is only one factor

For foresta, 928 units of 3 rooms family size. So bachelor, single expat, just married couple n those without 3k budget etc are ruled out. Unlikely to be cash flow positive for late buyers. Hopefully at least 50% own stayers upon 1st year of vp. Perhaps can attract more sri damansara residents or their second generation to switch from intermediate terrace to condo with facilities.

Forsee lower value for block A side facing phase 2 as after vp will be staring at the construction n block D facing highway n west sun
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thumbup.gif Totally agree with you.

It's just that i feel that the supply for small units have been too many and that market might not be able to absorb it. The last time i checked on Scott Garden, it was really empty.

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post Jun 9 2014, 12:15 AM

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QUOTE(1282009 @ Jun 4 2014, 09:20 PM)
By the way, looking at 1 of the pictures, why the balcony is concrete design instead of full glass panel?  hmm.gif
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Here a closer look to clarify your query...
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post Jun 9 2014, 12:58 AM

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QUOTE(Skyvi @ Jun 9 2014, 12:15 AM)
Here a closer look to clarify your query...
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Thank you, that clears my doubt wink.gif


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QUOTE(Skyvi @ Jun 9 2014, 12:15 AM)
Here a closer look to clarify your query...
Thanks for the picture, looking good rclxms.gif
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post Jun 10 2014, 12:17 AM

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QUOTE(CMW123 @ Jun 9 2014, 11:20 AM)
Thanks for the picture, looking good  rclxms.gif
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Starting to make way for phase 2 seem?

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post Jun 10 2014, 12:36 AM

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Block progress update until 7th June:
Block A = 35 floors
Block B = 28 floors
Block C = 12 floors
Block D = 23 floors

1.5 years to go...
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post Jun 10 2014, 01:01 AM

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QUOTE(Skyvi @ Jun 9 2014, 01:15 AM)
Here a closer look to clarify your query...
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So the conclusion there will be glass panels for the balcony, right?
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post Jun 10 2014, 01:05 AM

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QUOTE(Sikit2JadiBukit @ Jun 8 2014, 11:47 PM)
means The Zest not empty? Bukit 9 Utama not empty? Armanee Damai not empty?  brows.gif

how to conclude small size a failure without looking at the big picture?  whistling.gif
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I'm not making conclusion, it is just my view.

I never touch the smaller units.

This is because I feel that there is no so many local rich singles that would purchase those units. This is more to luxury lifestyle.

As for the bigger units, the husband and wife for the sake of the family will fork out the money to purchase a "home". it is a basic need.

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QUOTE(GangHo @ Jun 10 2014, 01:01 AM)
So the conclusion there will be glass panels for the balcony, right?
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As obviously shown, yes indeed.
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QUOTE(Skyvi @ Jun 10 2014, 12:36 AM)
Block progress update until 7th June:
Block A = 35 floors
Block B = 28 floors
Block C = 12 floors
Block D = 23 floors

1.5 years to go...
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will block a VP first? or Block A,B,C,D VP together?
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post Jun 10 2014, 12:48 PM

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We have discussed this matter in earlier tread. I would think that the developer has got its own planning but they will not commit any final date at this moment. The most diplomatic answer is," check your S&P agreement"

If the construction is on/ahead of schedule, of course handing over all at the same time would be best. However, nobody will know until the end whether the contractor will complete the works on time. Or they might face problem fulfilling authority requirement.
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QUOTE(P_P @ Jun 10 2014, 10:28 AM)
will block a VP first? or Block A,B,C,D VP together?
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All blocks sharing the same amenities.
So all will be vp together.
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post Jun 10 2014, 01:59 PM

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QUOTE(P_P @ Jun 10 2014, 10:28 AM)
will block a VP first? or Block A,B,C,D VP together?
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All 4 block together lah...they all share the same access and common properties

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