It is certainly a nice stone, you can see how clear the arrows are when zoomed in.

btw, your phone can take some pretty good photos!

Hi everyone, Shannon here again - owner of The Gem Tribe and U.S.A. GIA Gemologist (recognized industry expert).
To answer your question about Twinning Wisps, it is a natural inter-growth within the diamond crystal that had formed during the formation of the diamond's crystal. Due to the presence of natural impurities found in natural environments, multiple types of inclusions may be present when the diamond rough is cut, faceted and polished to the final diamond.

As I have seen many in the diamonds I have graded over the years, the most common types of twinning wisps look like a whirlwind tornado within the diamond, which does not make the diamond look blurry, but more so hazy instead. Sometimes, there are even tiny crystals - transparent ones and sometimes black, which may appear like dark specs to those who don't know what they are looking at. Mini fractures called feather present, which are not ideal to the diamond may also be found as well.

For regular untrained eyes, it is not abnormal to be unsure of what you are looking at, so don't feel bad @ilovemalaysia2020. : )
I believe the reason your diamond may have been given an SI2 grade and not an I1 grade (thank god!) is possibly due to it containing that whitish tornado I mentioned earlier.
Had it contained black crystals or many tiny feathers webbing outwards from the "tornado", your stone would've been an I1 or worse. And I-category stones are a horrible and terrible choice because firstly, - it has OBVIOUS aesthetic flaws that are easily noticeable by the naked eye and secondly, it contains inclusions that risks and jeopardizes the diamond's actual integrity. Meaning, there is risk of the diamond chipping, cleaving or breaking more easily.

Anyone interested in understanding more in depth and accurately about diamonds are welcome to post any questions here for discussion. Or if preferred, you may PM me through the links below as well for direct assistance. : )

This post has been edited by TheGemTribe: Apr 2 2019, 11:45 PM

Are any of you reading this today also facing the same issue as ZONX here? Being so much in the unknown about diamonds and gemstones. Having limited options to choose from while waiting for overseas online merchants to update their stock list? Finding yourselves so overwhelmed and confused about all these fancy marketing terms and fancy sounding testing methods used by these online merchants who are just trying to differentiate their diamonds from other diamond sellers?

Are you really comfortable with buying a high valued, luxury item like a diamond/gemstone costing over thousands of Ringgits of your hard earned money sight unseen??

I am just sharing, from a practicing GIA Gemologist's point of view who has graded over thousands of diamonds throughout the course of my career, that even after having viewed so many GIA certs of diamonds over the years, that it was not surprising to often find that the stone wasn't what it was supposed to be. And how often I have come across diamonds that have a HCA score of 4.9 and above being far more brilliant and fiery than diamonds below HCA score 2 and below.

So how is it on paper/digitally are you able to really know and decide whether a diamond will have excellent or moderate fire, brilliance or cut? How are you able to accurately determine that the light performance of Diamond-A is better than Diamond-B without seeing it put next to each other for comparison? Based on all these diamond merchant tests that are not condoned or recognized by GIA standards of grading?

Did you all know that GIA diamond grading are done manually by actual human beings known as Gemologists? : ))
Did you know that all the table percentages, crown angle percentages, pavilion depth percentages, fire and cut grades etc that you see in the GIA cert are determined by Gemologists who use their trained expertise to eye-ball and approximate them; which are not done by machine?

Do you know why?
Because diamonds, my dear friends, are exactly like humans. They each have their own unique fingerprints and attributes, they each have their own respective characteristics and proportions. There are no 2 diamonds that are exactly the same! So how are machines suppose to grade them?

Determining how beautiful and high quality a diamond is, is by the balance of all its 4Cs - colour, clarity, cut and carat.

Colour : Would you be ok with your diamond looking yellow, brownish or hazy (fluorescence) under outdoor or indoor lighting? Although it has ideal cut?
Clarity : Are you sure light performance isn't affected by opaque or widely spread inclusions although it is ideal cut?
Carat : Are you willing to compromise on the other 3 valuing factors for a larger size stone only because it is ideal cut?
Cut : Are you willing to place the fate of your proposal on a diamond you have never seen merely because the cert online tells you it is ideal cut?

This is the reason why GIA, the body that created this worldwide recognized diamond grading standard created the 4Cs in the first place!

At The Gem Tribe, our GIA Gemologists provides personalized diamonds and gemstones sourcing concierge services locally here who can get you internationally supplied diamonds in real time - so no more waiting and paying for delivery! We are experts at selecting the best diamonds/gemstones to suit your quality specifications and budget needs, so you don't have to feel overwhelmed or pressured by complicated and technical gemological jargon! We do this for a living, and are happy to share and guide sincere people who want to get their partners an excellent diamond that can represent their love genuinely. : ) You are welcome to PM us for direct access to our experts.






P/s : Remember, potential is not guaranteed. GIA cut grade is determined by Polish, Proportion and Symmetry! How could you get an ideal stone with poor facet symmetry? Why are some testing methods still not recognized by GIA standards today? Take everything with a pinch of salt. Best luck everyone!

Thanks for sharing, Shannon.

Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't buying from TGT is also buying unseen, since you are also sourcing internationally supplied diamonds in real time?

And from TGT's point of view, what is the nice balance in terms of 4Cs and proportions?

Take everything with a pinch of salt - Yes, totally agree. Especially the internet!

My other splurge besides the diamond is Samsung S10+. Taken using the telephoto lens with phone almost resting on the viewing scope's eyepiece.

Quite broke now

Quite broke - says the owner of a Samsung S10+...

Coming soon...





https://www.myengagementringexperience.com/...experience.html

Can't wait to see your sharing on this.

Receiving next Monday. Might need awhile before I start to write anything. Busy with work and also personal stuff at the moment.

A pleasure as always, Yang Kin. : )

And apologies for the late reply everyone! I've been out busy sourcing a few diamonds and gemstones these few days, and also delivering completed goods to my customers. Barely have time to check back often enough! @,@

Anyway, do allow me to help clarify what we actually do here at TGT, as I can see how some readers may be confused.
We are a Professional Jewellery Services company, very much like a personalized jewelry concierge, provided by industry experts - GIA Gemologists and GIA certified Accredited Jewelry Professionals.

Unlike what others like ZCOVA, TJ or Memory Jewels do, we do not carry any Diamond Stock, nor do we sell via virtual listings.
We never buy anything on behalf of our clients sight unseen. NEVER. We source our diamonds through our internationally linked local suppliers - only big trade suppliers of whom dominates 60% of our KL market, who sells to even some of the jewellers mentioned above.

Our specialty is that our client tells us what they are looking for + their budget, we tell them right away whether it is realistic or not as well as what the biggest size with best specs their budget can get them.
Because we are certified Gemologists who have been grading gemstones for years and years (for public listed local Industry Giants as well as American jewellers abroad), we know what to look out for when we look at a GIA cert.We know how to identify if the stone is a borderline stone (a SI1 stone graded as a VS2 stone) or if the grade of the stone is a true grade (non-borderline grade).
We start our sourcing firstly through the process of filtering.

One big difference between us and the other jewellers is, we offer our clients access to more diamond options than what the other jewellers do. This is because other jewellers either market and post only what they are carrying (existing stock), or for those who market through "virtual listings", they are only able to process, upload and update their virtual list in a slower manner, hence making less options available to their clients virtually.

At TGT, we are able to shortlist for our clients, over 30 diamonds or more with similar specs that are within their budget - we filter out the potentials using our gemological knowledge.
Next, we meet with our suppliers to physically view and review the diamonds that we've shortlisted. Once verified, we send high resolution videos and images to our clients with a clear narrative of the diamond specs and features of the final shortlisted diamonds and which we find is the best choice, and our client gets to decide which he prefers to proceed with.

So yes, our Gemological services are nothing like what our competitors are offering. We represent our clients directly in a personalized manner, to help professionally get them the best option available to them in person, so they may avoid the expensive risk of buying a stone online that may be misrepresented. Our clients deal directly with a knowledgeable Gemologist, not a regular salesperson who is hired by the company to hard sell you what they have, be it virtual or not.

And gem sourcing is just ONE of the many personalized gemological services we provide. If interested in knowing more, you may PM us directly, check out our LowYat profile or our links below. : )

And from TGT's point of view, what is the nice balance in terms of 4Cs and proportions?
We always recommend the best and safest options to our clients.

Colour : E-F at the least. G at most.
For colour, it is never necessary to go to the extremes of buying a D colour at premium prices, as E-F is sufficient to ensure your diamond is the whitest when subjected to any form of lighting - indoors or outdoors. The way everyone gauges colour is different. Some may be more sensitive, some may be less. For those who are less sensitive, G colour may be acceptable, as long as they know what they are getting.

From our past experience, we have noticed that starting from H colour, majority of people are able to pick up on colour. So, as the safest option, sticking to E and F is the best.

Clarity : VS2 and above.
In our opinion, it isn't necessary to opt for anything higher than a VS1, because it means having to pay premium prices for it. Unless our client's budget allows for it, then we are happy to oblige.
For Clarity, we recommend nothing lower than a VS2. And it needs to be a true VS2, not borderline. It makes no sense that a client should be paying a higher VS2 price for a borderline SI stone.

The reason why we would never recommend a SI stone is because under normal magnification, there is a high possibility that the inclusions may be visible to our clients. And some inclusions are REALLY BAD and noticeable while some are less noticeable to the trained eye, hence - a 50/50 risk. However, we just do not want our clients feeling upset or unhappy after seeing what their SI stone looks like. Because today they may not care to see, but what if one day when given an opportunity, their partner does or wants to? We are just thinking long term.

Cut : TRUE TRIPLE EXCELLENT
Many people actually do not know what a GIA cut grade means and what justifies a triple excellent grade. Cut basically is split into 3 criterion - Cut, Polish and Symmetry. These 3 factors affect the aesthetic beauty of the stone tremendously. However, do not let this valuing factor be overplayed by those who have creatively generated many marketing differentiation methods to appeal to you online.

Yes, there are many borderline Triple Excellent stones we want to avoid. The reasoning behind is because like us humans, every diamond has its own unique proportions once being cut from a rough. Hence, more proportion allowances are given. You may get a better understanding of the cut consideration through this GIA article here : GIA Article - //4cs.gia.edu/en-us/blog/gia-diamond-grading-reports-understanding-diamond-cut-grades/

Nevertheless, don't you think you would be more certain and confident in investing your hard earned money in something tangibly verified by an industry professional? A Gemologist who is able to filter out those borderline stones, put multiple diamonds side by side in real time for comparison? Rather than taking a 50/50 risk of buying a stone online verified by test images you cannot re-confirm later on? (Btw, how many big retailers here in Malaysia possess ASET or IDEALSCOPE tools in their stores for you to borrow? Or do you have to buy your own tools too? @,@)

Here's an article for those of you who wonder how Diamonds are photographed for online marketing purposes :
https: How Diamonds are Photographed - //www.prosumerdiamonds.com/how-to-take-pictures-of-your-diamond/

Lastly, although most salespeople and online platform sellers will always brandish cut as the MOST IMPORTANT factor when buying a diamond (by using all types of fancy marketing tools that may or may not be true or recognized) but in actual fact, do know that it takes the balance of ALL the 4Cs to fully ensure that the diamond you get is truly an ideal stone that justifies the representation of your love. : ) After all, this is an important milestone in life. Decide carefully.

0.45ct F,VS1 Diamond under natural daylight.



Attached thumbnail(s)

Thanks for sharing, Shannon.

This is particularly interesting, so can I say that all the diamonds you source will be physically available in Malaysia? As far as I know, some people prefer to pick diamond by actually looking at them, as in the real stuff, not photos. Possible to do that with TGT?

That's a lovely 0.45ct, mind sharing the number?

This post has been edited by kambingkoh: Apr 5 2019, 09:23 AM

Thought this might be of interest. MoneyMatch doing well and probably thanks to some people here in part.

https://fintechnews.my/20451/payments-remit...ymatch-sandbox/

They are managed by some wonderful and capable people. I believe there are more emerging tech these days. Someone mentioned BigPay but I haven't explore it. eRemit might be a good alternative as well, but with the correct referral code, you actually save more with MoneyMatch. I still got like 44 referral codes that can be used for any subsequent transfers I believe. RM 25 each. So those who are interested to remit to have subsequent purchase can PM me.

hi, would like to get some advice here, is this diamond good?

https://www.gia.edu/report-check?reportno=6...s=1554563391487

with setting is rm 3540

This is the diamond: https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/r...cut-sku-4329465
Proportions i would say good. Overall, does not look too shabby. Not Hearts and Arrows based on the video. You can see certain arrows not aligning well.

Price is fair though.

Hope this helps?

Hi would like to ask if this diamond price ok?

Color : k
Clarity : vvs2
Cut : excellent (3ex)
Carat: 0.36

Rm2144

Cert number?

Didn't manage to take Dow the cert the diamond is from wah chan

It's okay. What is your budget like? And are you comfortable buying online?