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Advice Wanted [WTA] Proposal Ring & Wedding Bands, Please advice me!! Need Help!!

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Redevil0410
post Aug 11 2017, 07:48 PM

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QUOTE(kambingkoh @ Aug 11 2017, 06:39 PM)
Eh? Missed out.  doh.gif

Diamond 3 - 96.9 (EC Score: https://enchanteddiamonds.com/cut-score-cal...ate=6255309717)
Diamond 4 - 97.2 (EC Score: https://enchanteddiamonds.com/cut-score-cal...ate=7241777165)
Diamond 5 - 100.00 (EC Score: https://enchanteddiamonds.com/cut-score-cal...ate=5182348193)

The look of Diamond 5 from the PDF looks okay to me. But not sure why the Hearts & Arrows only score "Very Good". You might want to check on that. Also, the 34 degree crown angle, although ideal at 34 degrees, but I prefer slightly steep because will increase some fire. But nonetheless, after looking at all the available options and images on PDF (I did not check the SendSpace because office internet block it), Diamond 5 will be my choice.

You can ask TJ to provide you a few more options as well, if possible.

I shall see the SendSpace contents tonight, if I have the time.

Good luck!
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Bro, same as you, surveying.
All the diamonds you stated are around 6k include the setting from TJ?
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post Aug 13 2017, 10:47 AM

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QUOTE(Redevil0410 @ Aug 11 2017, 07:48 PM)
Bro, same as you, surveying.
All the diamonds you stated are around 6k include the setting from TJ?
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Yes, all the quote around 6k from TJ. i also surveying here rclxub.gif rclxub.gif
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post Aug 13 2017, 03:51 PM

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QUOTE(infinity1987 @ Aug 11 2017, 06:43 PM)
ok bro, no problem. take your time.  smile.gif
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Hello Infinity,

Sorry for late reply. Just saw the video yesterday the diamond is just like the photos, so I don't have further comment for those.

After looking at the diamond further, based on specs and price alone, diamond 5 will still be my top choice, but based on cut, I think I would go for Diamond 2. Please be reminded that I am only focusing on the diamonds provided in that list. In real life, I won't buy any of these personally.

For Diamond 5, in terms of price, it seems pretty cheap as well. As far as 0.4ct is concerned, I can't seem to find anything that matches that price from WhiteFlash or Brian Gavin diamonds. Although diamond 5 has fluorescence, but I don't think that will affect the price too much. Although it is cheap, but I would encourage you to ask further regarding this diamond, see if TJ can provide further details on the light return and Hearts & Arrows. I believe the cut of this diamond does affect the price, since the Hearts & Arrows is only Very Good (Very Good to me is No Good). If the Hearts & Arrows is too bad, then you can probably skip it too.

Diamond 2 is worth to consider since the Hearts & Arrows is graded as Excellent, but then again, take it with a pinch of salt, until we can see the H&A. The depth of 62.7% is really too deep for my liking though. There will most likely be light leakage. But as far as diamond cut is concerned this should be better than diamond 5. Also, the crown angle should return more fire than Diamond 5. All these reasons are why I have shortlisted it as well.

So here comes my affiliate work: However, for diamond 2's price, I will take Black by Brian Gavin instead: http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds...?a_aid=myengexp. Although one clarity grade lower, at VVS2, there should be no difference to the naked eye. Also, although this diamond is more expensive than diamond 2 (because we have not factor in shipping price and GST), but it will most certainly outperform any of the diamonds listed here, in various environments. Besides, it is also larger face-up compared to diamond 2. Diamond 2 has a dimension of 4.29 - 4.31 x 2.70 mm, while Black by Brian Gavin here has a dimension of 4.33 X 4.36 X 2.68 mm. As you can see, Black does not hide the carat size in the depth of the diamond.

The price? USD 836 + USD 55 (approximate shipping with insurance) = USD 891. M2U Forex Exchange Rate is 4.3540. That makes the price in Ringgit to be MYR 3879.41. Add on 6% GST will be RM 4112.17. To be safe, add on RM 50 for misc. charges, if any. So this will make the total to be around RM 4162.17. This will have a difference of RM 546.17 compared to Diamond 2, but I think is worth it, since Black by Brian Gavin is Brian Gavin's pinnacle work. You will however, need to do your setting elsewhere in that case. So I think it will be safe to put your Halo Setting price at RM 2500. This is because if you buy from the same vendor, the price should be cheaper, but since now we are talking about setting a loose diamond, then the price will most likely be different. But RM 2500 will be enough for Halo Setting, I hope. Feel free to check with iDo Jewellery, Eumayco Jewellery, Memory Jewellery and see what is their price for Halo Setting. You can get in touch with them via Facebook.

I have to stress that this is what I will do if I am in your situation, but with more than 6K budget. But in your situation, your budget of 6K for diamond with Halo Setting will limit your options. If you can top-up another RM 1,000, then that be widen up your options, but if your budget is there and you want to stick with it, then I think TJ's option should be fine.

On top of that, you may want to get options from iDo Jewellery, ZCOVA, Eumayco Jewellery, and visit Wah Chan and section 14 PJ as well. There is no need to worry about all the diamonds, just stick to the proportions listed here:
http://myengagementringexperience.blogspot...-brilliant.html, and you will be fine.

Hope this helps. Good luck and all the best!

This post has been edited by kambingkoh: Aug 14 2017, 11:21 AM
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post Aug 14 2017, 10:16 PM

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Hi guys,

I just got myself a 0.37ct, F color, VS2 at Rm3.6k for the diamond itself and RM4.2k including the band from Wah Chan in MV. Just wondering if it was a justified buy? GIA details here: https://www.gia.edu/report-check?reportno=6252616392

Spent plenty of hours surveying few jewellery outlets in 1U and MV and finally made a decision that's just slightly outside of my budget range.

This post has been edited by 8sg9ft: Aug 14 2017, 10:16 PM
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post Aug 14 2017, 10:41 PM

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QUOTE(kambingkoh @ Aug 13 2017, 03:51 PM)
Hello Infinity,

Sorry for late reply. Just saw the video yesterday the diamond is just like the photos, so I don't have further comment for those.

After looking at the diamond further, based on specs and price alone, diamond 5 will still be my top choice, but based on cut, I think I would go for Diamond 2. Please be reminded that I am only focusing on the diamonds provided in that list. In real life, I won't buy any of these personally.

For Diamond 5, in terms of price, it seems pretty cheap as well. As far as 0.4ct is concerned, I can't seem to find anything that matches that price from WhiteFlash or Brian Gavin diamonds. Although diamond 5 has fluorescence, but I don't think that will affect the price too much. Although it is cheap, but I would encourage you to ask further regarding this diamond, see if TJ can provide further details on the light return and Hearts & Arrows. I believe the cut of this diamond does affect the price, since the Hearts & Arrows is only Very Good (Very Good to me is No Good). If the Hearts & Arrows is too bad, then you can probably skip it too.

Diamond 2 is worth to consider since the Hearts & Arrows is graded as Excellent, but then again, take it with a pinch of salt, until we can see the H&A. The depth of 62.7% is really too deep for my liking though. There will most likely be light leakage. But as far as diamond cut is concerned this should be better than diamond 5. Also, the crown angle should return more fire than Diamond 5. All these reasons are why I have shortlisted it as well.

So here comes my affiliate work: However, for diamond 2's price, I will take Black by Brian Gavin instead: http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds...?a_aid=myengexp. Although one clarity grade lower, at VVS2, there should be no difference to the naked eye. Also, although this diamond is more expensive than diamond 2 (because we have not factor in shipping price and GST), but it will most certainly outperform any of the diamonds listed here, in various environments. Besides, it is also larger face-up compared to diamond 2. Diamond 2 has a dimension of 4.29 - 4.31 x 2.70 mm, while Black by Brian Gavin here has a dimension of 4.33 X 4.36 X 2.68 mm.  As you can see, Black does not hide the carat size in the depth of the diamond.

The price? USD 836 + USD 55 (approximate shipping with insurance) = USD 891. M2U Forex Exchange Rate is 4.3540. That makes the price in Ringgit to be MYR 3879.41. Add on 6% GST will be RM 4112.17. To be safe, add on RM 50 for misc. charges, if any. So this will make the total to be around RM 4162.17. This will have a difference of RM 546.17 compared to Diamond 2, but I think is worth it, since Black by Brian Gavin is Brian Gavin's pinnacle work. You will however, need to do your setting elsewhere in that case. So I think it will be safe to put your Halo Setting price at RM 2500. This is because if you buy from the same vendor, the price should be cheaper, but since now we are talking about setting a loose diamond, then the price will most likely be different. But RM 2500 will be enough for Halo Setting, I hope. Feel free to check with iDo Jewellery, Eumayco Jewellery, Memory Jewellery and see what is their price for Halo Setting. You can get in touch with them via Facebook.

I have to stress that this is what I will do if I am in your situation, but with more than 6K budget. But in your situation, your budget of 6K for diamond with Halo Setting will limit your options. If you can top-up another RM 1,000, then that be widen up your options, but if your budget is there and you want to stick with it, then I think TJ's option should be fine.

On top of that, you may want to get options from iDo Jewellery, ZCOVA, Eumayco Jewellery, and visit Wah Chan and section 14 PJ as well. There is no need to worry about all the diamonds, just stick to the proportions listed here:
http://myengagementringexperience.blogspot...-brilliant.html, and you will be fine.

Hope this helps. Good luck and all the best!
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Bro, Really appreciate and thanks for your advice. notworthy.gif

To me i quite liking on the BGD diamond you recommend. But today i try getting to know my gf about diamond info. She said prefer GIA diamond. bangwall.gif bangwall.gif
Anyway i didn't ask straight forward scare expose my intention (Propose) brows.gif
I had ask TJ to look for others diamonds for me within my budget, don't know they have any extra choices of diamonds. Do you have any affiliate work for GIA diamond link?
As u said visit Wah Chan and u referring Section 14 PJ branch?
Thanks

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post Aug 14 2017, 11:23 PM

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QUOTE(infinity1987 @ Aug 14 2017, 10:41 PM)
Bro, Really appreciate and thanks for your advice.  notworthy.gif

To me i quite liking on the BGD diamond you recommend. But today i try getting to know my gf about diamond info. She said prefer GIA diamond.  bangwall.gif  bangwall.gif
Anyway i didn't ask straight forward scare expose my intention (Propose)  brows.gif
I had ask TJ to look for others diamonds for me within my budget, don't know they have any extra choices of diamonds. Do you have any affiliate work for GIA diamond link?
As u said visit Wah Chan and u referring Section 14 PJ branch?
Thanks
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Haha nope bro. US based vendors usually use AGS. Your gf is smart, no need bang wall. Diamond is one of the bigger purchase, so it is relatively safer to go with the certificate that most people are familiar with. Not saying AGS is no good, but GIA is really everywhere in Malaysia, hence more famous and well known.

TJ will try to sort things our for you, but if you want to have more options, try look for iDo Jewellery. She seems to have take in some new stones.

Wah Chan Section 14 PJ branch is the flagship store, so you will probably have more options over there. They have a Facebook page as well: https://www.facebook.com/wahchansig/. If you have the time, why not drop by as well? Hopefully won't be too troublesome for you.

Keep us posted and all the best bro. wink.gif
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post Aug 15 2017, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(kambingkoh @ Aug 14 2017, 11:23 PM)
Haha nope bro. US based vendors usually use AGS. Your gf is smart, no need bang wall. Diamond is one of the bigger purchase, so it is relatively safer to go with the certificate that most people are familiar with. Not saying AGS is no good, but GIA is really everywhere in Malaysia, hence more famous and well known.

TJ will try to sort things our for you, but if you want to have more options, try look for iDo Jewellery. She seems to have take in some new stones.

Wah Chan Section 14 PJ branch is the flagship store, so you will probably have more options over there. They have a Facebook page as well: https://www.facebook.com/wahchansig/. If you have the time, why not drop by as well? Hopefully won't be too troublesome for you.

Keep us posted and all the best bro. wink.gif
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Thanks Bro, will try look for iDo jewellery and visit wah chan. Will keep u posted later. smile.gif

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post Aug 15 2017, 02:51 PM

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QUOTE(8sg9ft @ Aug 14 2017, 10:16 PM)
Hi guys,

I just got myself a 0.37ct, F color, VS2 at Rm3.6k for the diamond itself and RM4.2k including the band from Wah Chan in MV. Just wondering if it was a justified buy? GIA details here: https://www.gia.edu/report-check?reportno=6252616392

Spent plenty of hours surveying few jewellery outlets in 1U and MV and finally made a decision that's just slightly outside of my budget range.
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I won't say you overpaid for your diamond and the price for the band is reasonable enough.

What do you think about the diamond when you first saw it? Do you like it better than the others offered to you?


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post Aug 15 2017, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(PPZ @ May 14 2014, 11:54 AM)
Hi ladies and gentlemen,

I want to propose to my gf later this year if i can find a suitable ring as soon as possible. All those preparation of the proposal also need some time. smile.gif

My budget for the proposal ring is around RM 10k. Maybe RM 2 - 3k for wedding bands. My gf is dying for Tiffany & Co and I take some time to think about it since a lot of choices out there that can offer me better ring despite the brand itself. Because i think wedding only once in a lifetime, i think should buy the best for her but if i can get better ring somewhere else then maybe i should reconsider.

I asked my friend last week in KL to help me to see some rings in Tiffany & Co and he told me that it is possible to buy a proposal ring for RM 10k with only 0.25 or 0.3 carat of diamond with Tiffany Setting. I not sure about the colour, cut, etc yet because i not there to see it. Maybe that kind of money can buy you 0.25 carat but low colour and cut which i not really sure yet. I will be going to KL this weekend and I will drop by to see the ring myself.

For the wedding bands, if i able to get Tiffany & Co for the proposal ring, i think to buy the wedding bands in other shops.

So what is your advice on this matter? Should i go for Tiffany & Co or other brand for the proposal ring and how about the wedding bands?

Thanks!
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QUOTE(PPZ @ May 14 2014, 11:54 AM)
Hi ladies and gentlemen,

I want to propose to my gf later this year if i can find a suitable ring as soon as possible. All those preparation of the proposal also need some time. smile.gif

My budget for the proposal ring is around RM 10k. Maybe RM 2 - 3k for wedding bands. My gf is dying for Tiffany & Co and I take some time to think about it since a lot of choices out there that can offer me better ring despite the brand itself. Because i think wedding only once in a lifetime, i think should buy the best for her but if i can get better ring somewhere else then maybe i should reconsider.

I asked my friend last week in KL to help me to see some rings in Tiffany & Co and he told me that it is possible to buy a proposal ring for RM 10k with only 0.25 or 0.3 carat of diamond with Tiffany Setting. I not sure about the colour, cut, etc yet because i not there to see it. Maybe that kind of money can buy you 0.25 carat but low colour and cut which i not really sure yet. I will be going to KL this weekend and I will drop by to see the ring myself.

For the wedding bands, if i able to get Tiffany & Co for the proposal ring, i think to buy the wedding bands in other shops.

So what is your advice on this matter? Should i go for Tiffany & Co or other brand for the proposal ring and how about the wedding bands?

Thanks!
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post Aug 15 2017, 04:57 PM

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post Aug 15 2017, 05:16 PM

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QUOTE(kambingkoh @ Aug 15 2017, 02:51 PM)
I won't say you overpaid for your diamond and the price for the band is reasonable enough.

What do you think about the diamond when you first saw it? Do you like it better than the others offered to you?
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Thanks for the reply.

Saw a few options other than the one i bought. 1 or 2 were a grade or two higher in terms of colour and clarity (D, VS1 and E, VVS2) but smaller by weight (0.30 carat) and saw another one with a lower colour grade (G, VS2) with the same weight (0.37 carat). After much consideration, me and my partner thought that paying more for the slightly smaller diamond wasn't all that worth it and I didn't like the G-coloured diamond because can somewhat see a difference even with the naked eye with the shine when compared with the F-coloured diamond.

Did go to other places to like DeGem, Love & Co, Diamonds & Platinum, etc. Earlier in the day, was at DeGem and they had a loose diamond from their supplier (I think?) that I was interested in. F, VS1, 0.30 carat but wasn't 3Ex but no chance to have a view of it on that day itself. Got a quote first. Then only proceeded to Wah Chan. In the end, chose the one I bought as my partner was happy with the band (and setting) and the look of diamond size on her finger.
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QUOTE(8sg9ft @ Aug 15 2017, 05:16 PM)
Thanks for the reply.

Saw a few options other than the one i bought. 1 or 2 were a grade or two higher in terms of colour and clarity (D, VS1 and E, VVS2) but smaller by weight (0.30 carat) and saw another one with a lower colour grade (G, VS2) with the same weight (0.37 carat). After much consideration, me and my partner thought that paying more for the slightly smaller diamond wasn't all that worth it and I didn't like the G-coloured diamond because can somewhat see a difference even with the naked eye with the shine when compared with the F-coloured diamond.

Did go to other places to like DeGem, Love & Co, Diamonds & Platinum, etc. Earlier in the day, was at DeGem and they had a loose diamond from their supplier (I think?) that I was interested in. F, VS1, 0.30 carat but wasn't 3Ex but no chance to have a view of it on that day itself. Got a quote first. Then only proceeded to Wah Chan. In the end, chose the one I bought as my partner was happy with the band (and setting) and the look of diamond size on her finger.
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By right the G colour diamond should come close enough to the F colour diamond. I believe the cut of that diamond is not good.

And bro, you brought your gf along to pick the diamond and ring and she likes it... that's the most important part! haha!

You mentioned band... you referring to the wedding band or the ring setting?
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QUOTE(kambingkoh @ Aug 15 2017, 11:10 PM)
By right the G colour diamond should come close enough to the F colour diamond. I believe the cut of that diamond is not good.

And bro, you brought your gf along to pick the diamond and ring and she likes it... that's the most important part! haha!

You mentioned band... you referring to the wedding band or the ring setting?
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Hahah yes, my partner mentioned this ring can't just be a once-in-a-blue-moon kind of ring. She wants to wear it often (i.e date nights, wedding dinners, company functions, family gatherings, etc). So better bring her along to see what she truly is happy with. The only surprise element i can give right now is the proposal itself laugh.gif

Was referring to the ring setting as in the setting type, thickness of the hoop itself, etc. Haha not wedding band. My bad.
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Hahah yes, my partner mentioned this ring can't just be a once-in-a-blue-moon kind of ring. She wants to wear it often (i.e date nights, wedding dinners, company functions, family gatherings, etc). So better bring her along to see what she truly is happy with. The only surprise element i can give right now is the proposal itself laugh.gif

Was referring to the ring setting as in the setting type, thickness of the hoop itself, etc. Haha not wedding band. My bad.
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rclxms.gif great to hear that your gf will wear it often.

All the best for your proposal preparation. smile.gif
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QUOTE(8sg9ft @ Aug 15 2017, 11:53 PM)
Hahah yes, my partner mentioned this ring can't just be a once-in-a-blue-moon kind of ring. She wants to wear it often (i.e date nights, wedding dinners, company functions, family gatherings, etc). So better bring her along to see what she truly is happy with. The only surprise element i can give right now is the proposal itself laugh.gif

Was referring to the ring setting as in the setting type, thickness of the hoop itself, etc. Haha not wedding band. My bad.
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No wonder saw your post asking for private dining.

Congrats man, all the best to you tongue.gif
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post Aug 16 2017, 09:09 PM

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QUOTE(chiahau @ Aug 16 2017, 08:38 PM)
No wonder saw your post asking for private dining.

Congrats man, all the best to you tongue.gif
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Dude, you're everywhere in this forum. Lol
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QUOTE(8sg9ft @ Aug 16 2017, 09:09 PM)
Dude, you're everywhere in this forum. Lol
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My PA reads the forum for me and highlight important things I am interested to reply in tongue.gif

And yes, I am everywhere in the forums biggrin.gif
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post Aug 17 2017, 12:44 AM

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Hi All,

I stumbled upon this forum when I'm in search for a replacement diamond ring for my recently misplaced engagement ring.

May I check if it's possible for the sifus here to help advise if the below is a good choice of loose diamond w excellent cut and lights returning.

Shape - Round
Depth - 62.1%
Table - 56%
Crown angle - 35 degrees / 15.5%
Pavilion angle - 40.8 degrees / 43%
Girdle - Medium to slightly thick (faceted) 3.5%
Star - 50%
Lower girdle - 75%
Cutlet - None
Polish and Symmetry - Excellent
Color - F
Clarity - VS2

Looking forward to your kind advice.

Many thanks!


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