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Advice Wanted [WTA] Proposal Ring & Wedding Bands, Please advice me!! Need Help!!

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post Jul 14 2017, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(yeeck @ Jul 14 2017, 11:28 AM)
Getting the full refund and going to get from elsewhere. I lost confidence in them dy.
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Wise choice! All the best bro.
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post Jul 18 2017, 12:30 PM

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did anyone bought their proposal ring from tiffany?
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post Jul 18 2017, 02:39 PM

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QUOTE(kwbaka @ Jul 18 2017, 12:30 PM)
did anyone bought their proposal ring from tiffany?
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planning to get one there bro?
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post Jul 19 2017, 05:51 PM

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QUOTE(yeeck @ Jul 14 2017, 11:28 AM)
Getting the full refund and going to get from elsewhere. I lost confidence in them dy.
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Sunway Pyramid do have few jewelry shop. The service and product is not bad. Can go to Goldheart have a look. They even serve us hot fruit tea and explaining to us what is the difference for the diamond grades. Bravo!
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post Jul 20 2017, 12:01 AM

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QUOTE(Janevdb @ Jul 19 2017, 05:51 PM)
Sunway Pyramid do have few jewelry shop. The service and product is not bad. Can go to Goldheart have a look. They even serve us hot fruit tea and explaining to us what is the difference for the diamond grades. Bravo!
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Goldheart also under Tomei. Forget it. Same management then.... mad.gif Serving drinks and explaining the different grades are standard in any jewelry store.

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post Jul 20 2017, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(Janevdb @ Jul 19 2017, 05:51 PM)
Sunway Pyramid do have few jewelry shop. The service and product is not bad. Can go to Goldheart have a look. They even serve us hot fruit tea and explaining to us what is the difference for the diamond grades. Bravo!
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Aren't those SOPs for jewellery stores?

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No offense, but this is the problem with Malaysian consumers. They are just too easily satisfied with anything and everything. Kasi a bit tim tau sudah happy until macam dapat 90% discount.

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I went to Goldheart @ Midvalley during the initial stages of my diamond hunt, and I have to say that it was not a pleasant experience.

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post Jul 20 2017, 08:54 PM

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QUOTE(bb100 @ Jul 20 2017, 02:06 PM)
Aren't those SOPs for jewellery stores?

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No offense, but this is the problem with Malaysian consumers. They are just too easily satisfied with anything and everything. Kasi a bit tim tau sudah happy until macam dapat 90% discount.

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I went to Goldheart @ Midvalley during the initial stages of my diamond hunt, and I have to say that it was not a pleasant experience.
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Then probably you met a not experience sales person. SOPs? wah chan poh kong those not serving thou.
Anyway, I am satisfying with their service not only because the tea they served. cool2.gif
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QUOTE(yeeck @ Jul 20 2017, 12:01 AM)
Goldheart also under Tomei. Forget it. Same management then.... mad.gif Serving drinks and explaining the different grades are standard in any jewelry store.
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Oh, My Diamond also under tomei. Actually quite a lot of jewelry shop under tomei too..
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post Jul 20 2017, 09:10 PM

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QUOTE(Janevdb @ Jul 20 2017, 08:54 PM)
Then probably you met a not experience sales person. SOPs? wah chan poh kong those not serving thou.
Anyway, I am satisfying with their service not only because the tea they served.  cool2.gif
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curious.. what did you buy there again?
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post Jul 20 2017, 09:13 PM

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QUOTE(kambingkoh @ Jul 20 2017, 09:10 PM)
curious.. what did you buy there again?
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Proposal ring.
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QUOTE(Janevdb @ Jul 20 2017, 09:13 PM)
Proposal ring.
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Mind share what was the price range like? Did you get the Le Lumiere?
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QUOTE(Janevdb @ Jul 20 2017, 08:54 PM)
Then probably you met a not experience sales person. SOPs? wah chan poh kong those not serving thou.
Anyway, I am satisfying with their service not only because the tea they served.  cool2.gif
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Oh...u must have met lousy salespeople...we were served drinks at Wah Chan and Poh Kong...lol.
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QUOTE(yeeck @ Jul 21 2017, 12:18 AM)
Oh...u must have met lousy salespeople...we were served drinks at Wah Chan and Poh Kong...lol.
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So how's your issue with them going?
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QUOTE(yeeck @ Jul 21 2017, 12:18 AM)
Oh...u must have met lousy salespeople...we were served drinks at Wah Chan and Poh Kong...lol.
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Hahaha, probably. That's why, you need to be lucky enough the meet a good sales person, but not about whether they serve u drinks or not. Just a good service thumbup.gif
Wish you luck with your next ring hunting. thumbsup.gif
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post Jul 24 2017, 11:39 AM

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https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/r...cut-sku-1019680

Kindly advise if this is a good buy?
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QUOTE(atyt1985 @ Jul 24 2017, 11:39 AM)
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post Jul 24 2017, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(atyt1985 @ Jul 24 2017, 11:39 AM)
It is not even a Triple Excellent to start-off. Perhaps you can share your budget with us?

Update:

Here are some diamonds I picked, ranked accordingly
J VS2
https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/r...id=myengringexp USD 579 (this one has crown angle 34.6 degree, therefore, theoretically, it has slightly lesser fire compared to the others listed here. However, this diamond has excellent scintillation and the cut is better than the second diamond slightly because it has lesser light obstruction which you can safely ignore. The Hearts & Arrows also may not be the best, but it is good enough. Nonethless, the ASET for this diamond looks more promising compared to the others because it does not have "light green" below the diamond's table. Overall, this is a pretty balanced diamond that is safe to buy.)

https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/r...id=myengringexp USD 571 (this one has excellent scintillation as well, but I noticed that the cut is not as good as the first diamond because there are some slightly bigger patch of "darkness" behind the arrows, which is probably caused by light obstruction.)

https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/r...id=myengringexp USD 546 (this one has excellent scintillation, but the IdealScope looks whiter than the others, meaning the light return is not as good as the others listed here. Light return can improve the overall look of the diamond because it can make it look whiter. If you like fiery diamond and don't mind the weaker light return, this diamond is a good buy)

J SI1
https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/r...id=myengringexp USD 510 (this diamond is an SI1 diamond, but to me, the cut is not bad, especially the arrows. The video does not impress me that much though, but based on IdealScope, this diamond looks promising enough. Although they may be weaker light return at the 6 o'clock position of the diamond and the ASET also show some "light green", below the diamond's table, but that is something quite minor in my opinion. If I were to rank this diamond against VS2 above, then it will probably be the 2nd pick).

Note: All are affiliate links, meaning I will earn some commission if you buy using these links.

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QUOTE(kambingkoh @ Jul 24 2017, 01:46 PM)
It is not even a Triple Excellent to start-off. Perhaps you can share your budget with us?

Update:

Here are some diamonds I picked, ranked accordingly
J VS2
https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/r...id=myengringexp USD 579 (this one has crown angle 34.6 degree, therefore, theoretically, it has slightly lesser fire compared to the others listed here. However, this diamond has excellent scintillation and the cut is better than the second diamond slightly because it has lesser light obstruction which you can safely ignore. The Hearts & Arrows also may not be the best, but it is good enough. Nonethless, the ASET for this diamond looks more promising compared to the others because it does not have "light green" below the diamond's table. Overall, this is a pretty balanced diamond that is safe to buy.)

https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/r...id=myengringexp USD 571 (this one has excellent scintillation as well, but I noticed that the  cut is not as good as the first diamond because there are some slightly bigger patch of "darkness" behind the arrows, which is probably caused by light obstruction.)

https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/r...id=myengringexp USD 546 (this one has excellent scintillation, but the IdealScope looks whiter than the others, meaning the light return is not as good as the others listed here. Light return can improve the overall look of the diamond because it can make it look whiter. If you like fiery diamond and don't mind the weaker light return, this diamond is a good buy)

J SI1
https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/r...id=myengringexp USD 510 (this diamond is an SI1 diamond, but to me, the cut is not bad, especially the arrows. The video does not impress me that much though, but based on IdealScope, this diamond looks promising enough. Although they may be weaker light return at the 6 o'clock position of the diamond and the ASET also show some "light green", below the diamond's table, but that is something quite minor in my opinion. If I were to rank this diamond against VS2 above, then it will probably be the 2nd pick).

Note: All are affiliate links, meaning I will earn some commission if you buy using these links.
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Just wanted a loose diamond. Budget max RM4k? I wanted to get the best bang for buck.
I aiming for yellowish colour diamond which are slightly cheaper but that is ok because my ring setting will be gold
Fluorescence i heard faint and medium does not really affect much on yellowish diamond instead it will make it shine more brilliance. kindly correct me if i am wrong
Clarity wise , can go minimum SI 1? since its yellowish? Pinpoint or feather look might be not seen in the naked eyes?
Cut- Plan to put it on a solitaire ring so something proportionate that is showing the true carat size of the diamond
Carat- Well from the description above can i get at least 0.4 above?

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post Jul 24 2017, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(atyt1985 @ Jul 24 2017, 03:11 PM)
Just wanted a loose diamond. Budget RM4k? I wanted to get the best bang for buck.
I aiming for yellowish colour diamond which are slightly cheaper but that is ok because my ring setting will be gold
Fluorescence i heard faint and medium does not really affect much on yellowish diamond instead it will make it shine more brilliance. kindly correct me if i am wrong
Clarity wise , can go minimum SI 1? since its yellowish? Pinpoint or feather look might be not seen in the naked eyes?
Cut- Plan to put it on a solitaire ring so something proportionate that is showing the true carat size of the diamond
Carat- Well from the description above can i get at least 0.4 above?
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Question: Fluorescence i heard faint and medium does not really affect much on yellowish diamond instead it will make it shine more brilliance. kindly correct me if i am wrong
Answer: Source: http://beyond4cs.com/grading/fluorescence/...parency-issues/
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Generally speaking, diamonds in the colorless category D-F have a greater chance of being hazy when coupled with medium or v/strong fluorescence.

Haziness issues usually arise when we move towards a spectrum of more intense blue fluorescence. With that said, don’t be afraid of buying diamonds with strong or very strong fluorescence. The point to take note is never to buy blind. Either have a trustworthy gemologist help you review the stone or physically see the diamond before laying down your cash.

Faint fluorescence usually doesn’t impact the diamond’s look in any manner. In higher color grades like D-F, there is usually no difference in appearance. In lower color grades, faint fluorescence won’t help you much in making the stone look ‘whiter’.


Another answer:
Source: http://niceice.com/diamond-fluorescence/
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A faint yellow diamond with strong blue fluorescence often appears to be near colorless or white. We have seen diamonds graded as Q in color (very light yellow) that appeared to be white or bluish in daylight because they had strong blue fluorescence. Such diamonds are sometimes referred to as “premier diamonds” however keep in mind that a “label” is only as trustworthy as the person using it, so buyer beware.


My answer: So you see, one say one thing, the other say another thing. Personally, I am tend towards Todd Gray's (niceice) answer because I know him better than Paul Gian (beyond4cs). Anyway, I think we will need to evaluate case-by-case basis. But to be safe, why not buy diamond without fluorescence if possible? If you want to get the best value, then you can possibly visit Brian Gavin Diamonds and look at their Brian Gavin's Blue collection.

Question: Clarity wise , can go minimum SI 1? since its yellowish? Pinpoint or feather look might be not seen in the naked eyes?
Answer: Don't think colour will bring any difference for the clarity. In fact, great light return is able to mask off those inclusions. Pinpoint are small dots, but a lot of small dots group together can be obvious, so it is still important to find out more. As for feather, have to depends on the level of the crack. Overall, eye-clean is very subjective. You have to see what is the range of vision you are talking about. For the usual jeweler's eye-clean, we are probably talking about viewing the diamond from 6 inches to 10 inches away, with the diamond facing up. If you put the diamond right in front of your eyes real close, there is a good chance you may be able to find one or more inclusions. And yes, SI1 can be a good buy too if we can't see the inclusions in normal viewing angle (6 inches - 10 inches) away and not eagle eye on it. In fact, some can be very beautiful even up-close. We can always take a look at the actual diamond image to see things better because it is magnified. And if we can't find anything that looks too obvious, then to me, SI1 won't be too much of a problem. I will usually check with the seller before buying and see what is their opinion.

Cut- Plan to put it on a solitaire ring so something proportionate that is showing the true carat size of the diamond
Suggestion: Then go for 4-prongs, which is relatively safe and can expose the diamond better than 6-prongs.

Carat- Well from the description above can i get at least 0.4 above?
https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/r...id=myengringexp
0.418 J VS2 USD 864
Exch Rate: 4.3450, so, it is RM 3754.08
Add on 6%, so it is RM 3979.32
For your size, add on around RM 20 for misc. charges. For example, shipment got charged GST even though it is free.
So final price will be around RM 3999.32
This diamond's arrows is slightly shorter at the upper half compared to the lower half position. However, its performance is excellent in all departments - light return, scintillation, fire. Based on the video, it seems to have slightly better scintillation than the I VS2 below, but slightly weaker fire. The hearts and arrows are comparable to the I VS2 below, if not slightly better (because they look clean). The ASET loses slightly to the I VS2 below, but I will ignore the minimal difference.

If you top up a little, you can probably go with this as well:
https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/r...id=myengringexp
0.403 I VS2 USD 926
Exch Rate: 4.3450, so, it is RM 4023.47
Add on 6% GST, so it is RM 4264.88
For your size, add on around RM 20 for misc. charges. For example, shipment got charged GST even though it is free.
So final price will be around RM 4284.88
This diamond's arrows are more balanced. The backside of the arrow at the 6 o'clock position is not that balanced between left side and right side but overall, it is still acceptable. Based on the video, it seems to have slightly better fire than the J VS2 above, but slightly weaker scintillation. Although the hearts & arrows are comparable to the J VS2 above, but you can see some tiny dots on the heart in the 2 o'clock and 10 o'clock position, so I will say the J VS2 above wins a little. As for ASET, this diamond is better than J VS2 above. It has good contrast.

In this case, my pick will be the 0.418 J VS2 because it is still within near colourless range and it is a slightly bigger diamond too.

Hope this helps.

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Hello guys, I am planning to propose to my gf on Xmas during our dating anniversary plus our short trip biggrin.gif

So I need to do some homework now.
My budget is RM 3k - 5k for proposal ring. (No clue on diamond/gold etc rclxub.gif )
Anyone can kindly suggest me some shop name, so that I can go to physical shop and survey it.

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