QUOTE(prophetjul @ May 7 2014, 11:57 AM)
No money no honey 
20 + 17 + 12 + 16 = 65
luke and lala each commanding minimal 20m leh.. 20 + 17 + 12 + 16 = 65
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 May 7 2014, 12:02 PM
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May 7 2014, 12:03 PM
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QUOTE(yeelong @ May 7 2014, 11:53 AM) our 60m pound fund might not be enough to poach them all..... I guess we will offload few players off. If the reported estimated fees we received as follow are correct or close enough to truth,QUOTE Reina - 5m Aspas- 5m Assaidi -4m Borini - Estimated at 6m We are expected to have more than 20m+ (excluding the saving of wages on big contract like Reina who is on 90-100k and Aspas who is reported on 50-70k). Of course, I wont be surprise to see the likes of Agger, Toure and Glenny leave. So, if most of them leave, we would probably have a younger squad with a lower wages. But of course, with CL looming, I reckon BR to keep at least few of the seniors but I still think that the likes of Reina (dispute with BR), Agger (lack of playtime and Barca seems to want a replacement for Puyol and their long term interest mean he would probably leave for good) , Toure ( Clumsy, high wage, decent backup but leadership on pitch is highly doubtful to be able to replace Carra's) and Glenny(contract expiring and recent form suggest he doesnt deserve a new one. Age factor another issue for FSG contract policy) will leave for good. And then we will always have some unexpected transfer that we dont mean to sell but club offer good price and we sell off to balance the account. The likes of Shelvey, Downing come to mind. I reckon these potential leavers would probably be Suso ( who was rumored to be a bargaining chip for Porto's Fernando deal), Lucas/ Allen( one will have to make way if we make another midfielder signing since we already have Coutinho, Gerrard and Henderson.) With all these reasons, I think we will probably have up to an estimated sum of 100m to spend in summer with the net spend around 60m. |
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May 7 2014, 12:06 PM
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ May 7 2014, 11:56 AM) you watch Real Scociedad? I am impressed! I watched almost all matches from different kind of leagues when I am free. La Liga is kinda nice to watch to be fair. Serie A too. Ligue 1 however is kinda bored.   |
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May 7 2014, 12:30 PM
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GATHERING THIS SUNDAY AT SUNWAY GIZA BEER FACTORY!
If anyone want to join us, please PM me. Venue: Beer Factory Time: 9pm Participants: (Starting from bottles contributors) 1) Led_zep_freak - 1 bottle 2) Kendotnet - 1 bottle 3) Dillon - 1 bottle 4) Everdying 5) Maranello 6) Yee Long 7) Terry Fu 8) 8sg9ft 9) Sentinel92 10) Danielang 11) Donalduck 12) Dotaallstarz 13) Joon Ching 14) Kcmy 15) Koolspyda 16) Super911 17) LilRedRidingHood 18) Dayahkucomel 19) xMika 20) Skywire Maybe coming: ParaOptical, Wts6819, Leftist, Fariq Azad, Dotaallstarz, This Issit Correct me if I am wrong. . Looking forward to a noisy night with everyone. Cheers! YNWA |
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May 7 2014, 01:01 PM
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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ May 7 2014, 11:29 AM) United will be back next season. We welcome every challenge, no matter how small it might be.  |
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May 7 2014, 01:06 PM
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Fans should celebrate this season, no matter how we finish, because Liverpool FC has made great strides forward.
I don't think the two Evertonians mentioned will be for sale, much less to us! Both Lallana and Shaw will be expensive, but if we can afford one of them, I'd get Shaw. I hope we bring Suso back from loan and Enrique back from injury. There may be a few players to offload from our side, but we also need a better pool of players because of CL next season. Hence, I don't think we will sell more than three, with Toure almost a certainty. Hopefully, with more money, BR will not acquire second rate players like Aspas and Moses (on loan), and those who come free. I think he needs to prioritize world class defenders this summer, and possibly a goalkeeper too. |
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May 7 2014, 01:20 PM
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ May 7 2014, 11:20 AM) 1) When was the last time a team scored the most goals in the league but also conceded the least? I'm sure there are examples but I can't remember. The point I'm trying to make is one Paul Tomkins mentioned; that "we are who we are and not who we're not". Playing attacking football often means you'll be more prone to conceding than a team that parks the bus e.g. Chelsea. We have conceded 26 goals more than them but we've scored 30 more and we find ourselves 2 points ahead of them. The numbers reflect the difference between a more offensive team and a more defensive one. Makes sense doesn't it? man city - currently 2nd best attack and 2nd best defence.actually city seems to be the prime example here...when they won the league couple yrs ago they had the best attack and best defence. when chelsea won the year before that, they had their record breaking attack and also 2nd best defence. This post has been edited by Everdying: May 7 2014, 01:29 PM |
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May 7 2014, 01:35 PM
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QUOTE(Everdying @ May 7 2014, 01:20 PM) man city - currently 2nd best attack and 2nd best defence. The one scored most goals shud win the league. And ull see in a match total 10-20 goalsactually city seems to be the prime example here...when they won the league couple yrs ago they had the best attack and best defence. when chelsea won the year before that, they had their record breaking attack and also 2nd best defence. |
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May 7 2014, 01:38 PM
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QUOTE(maranello55 @ May 7 2014, 01:35 PM) The one scored most goals shud win the league. And ull see in a match total 10-20 goals lots of what if also.if LFC conceded less goals, perhaps some of those losses would be draws...and uhh some of those draws would be wins... like carra also said, cant always rely on the attack to drag the team out from situations... |
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May 7 2014, 02:17 PM
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QUOTE(yeelong @ May 7 2014, 12:02 PM) luke and lala each commanding minimal 20m leh.. would you pay 20mil for an 18 year old? |
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May 7 2014, 02:27 PM
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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ May 7 2014, 11:36 AM) Please la,no fighting2 Haha. I old uncle already may 2015. Dang. We'll see in May 2015..  |
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May 7 2014, 02:31 PM
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QUOTE(Everdying @ May 7 2014, 01:38 PM) lots of what if also. deswai KD was going the rite way. Agger and Skrtel combo was teh best in EPL dat year. Fr there he was building the mids and the front. Suarez is already there and we also know his intention with Hendo and Downing and Adam...which now we know who can be used and who cant. if LFC conceded less goals, perhaps some of those losses would be draws...and uhh some of those draws would be wins... like carra also said, cant always rely on the attack to drag the team out from situations... That year also is not that we cant score, we were rich with attempts and the team with most woodwork hit. Some draws dat year wudve been wins. |
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May 7 2014, 02:34 PM
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ May 7 2014, 11:20 AM) Thing about our defence is it isn't down purely to the players. I think we can all admit that Skrtel has had a solid season over all and so has Sakho so it's a contradiction to say our defence has been crap all season despite conceding goals. Here are a couple of things we need to consider :- If look at history of league table, the champion most of the time having 1) When was the last time a team scored the most goals in the league but also conceded the least? I'm sure there are examples but I can't remember. The point I'm trying to make is one Paul Tomkins mentioned; that "we are who we are and not who we're not". Playing attacking football often means you'll be more prone to conceding than a team that parks the bus e.g. Chelsea. We have conceded 26 goals more than them but we've scored 30 more and we find ourselves 2 points ahead of them. The numbers reflect the difference between a more offensive team and a more defensive one. Makes sense doesn't it? 2) A lot of the goals we've conceded have come from defensive errors but at the same time, our centrebacks have largely had good games this season. What gives? Players are usually forced into making mistakes when they are under immense pressure or are left exposed. By pushing players forward we leave gaps at the back for opposition players to run at our defenders and not many centrebacks are comfortable with having forwards running at them. Skrtel and Sakho do well in physical battles but neither is particularly fleet footed. We therefore need to be smarter about when to push forwards in numbers i.e. when the momentum of the game is in our favour), and when to defend i.e. when the opponent catches a gust of wind in their sails. I don't think it's as much a case about having bad defenders than it is about being bad at defending. In conclusion I'd say it's a case of "live by the sword, die by the sword". We should continue to take the game to teams. It's gotten us where we are today but we also need to realise that we cannot sustain our attacking play for 90 minutes and we need to choose the right times to retreat before going on the offensive again. New defenders aren't going to rectify our porous defence. 1. One of best goal difference 2. One of team the scored the most goal 3. One of least goal conceded The champion may not the best of 1,2,3 but it won't too far away from it, may ranked in front of the 3 category. Man Utd did it many times by having the best score and least conceded to crown champion of the league. Same with Chelsea, Arsenal during its year of invincible. Liv managed doing it 1 & 2, but not doing well for 3. |
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May 7 2014, 02:54 PM
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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ May 7 2014, 11:29 AM) United will be back next season.  |
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May 7 2014, 02:57 PM
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ May 7 2014, 02:17 PM) would you pay 20mil for an 18 year old? throw sterling out there see who willing to pay 30 mil for him? |
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May 7 2014, 03:07 PM
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Luke Shaw is talented and is a proven PL player. IMO, he is better than Coleman, as evident when they played each other in the recent Southamption v Everton game.
The price of English players are always inflated. Shaw is probably worth around 15m in the world market. The 5m are for his youthfulness and PL experience. |
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May 7 2014, 03:08 PM
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QUOTE(RedSiglap56 @ May 7 2014, 03:07 PM) Luke Shaw is talented and is a proven PL player. IMO, he is better than Coleman, as evident when they played each other in the recent Southamption v Everton game. almost like the 35m for AC? The price of English players are always inflated. Shaw is probably worth around 15m in the world market. The 5m are for his youthfulness and PL experience.  |
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May 7 2014, 03:25 PM
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QUOTE(yeelong @ May 7 2014, 02:57 PM) throw sterling out there see who willing to pay 30 mil for him? No one. And Sterling is 19 |
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May 7 2014, 03:28 PM
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35m for AC was more like extortion. We showed desperation to fill the vacancy at that time. Never to be repeated.
This time, we are rebuilding or reinforcing. Hopefully we can negotiate better.  |
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May 7 2014, 03:37 PM
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QUOTE(RedSiglap56 @ May 7 2014, 03:28 PM) 35m for AC was more like extortion. We showed desperation to fill the vacancy at that time. Never to be repeated. if we still fail to land BR's target, we need to overhaul the recruiting committee first This time, we are rebuilding or reinforcing. Hopefully we can negotiate better. |
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