Please hate me for saying this . I'm happy with him so far this season. Minus both of the blunders, he's one experience, solid Defender. And he can assist with very good long passing too.

This post has been edited by Patt_Hup: May 7 2014, 10:44 AM

Who were u talking? Papa? Shako or Toure?

papa bouba diop

one papa that we are linked with

yes!!! This one!!!! Papa & Mama, our future CB!!

Also linked with Cardiff's captan - Caulker as he has a clause to exit following cardiff's relegation.

Wasn't impressed with him during our win of 6-3 but plus point is he is English

Wasn't impressed with Caulker. But he can do a Hendo....

We have pressing need for good solid defenders. LB and RB has always been our weak point. How I wish Hyppia-Henchoz partnership never ends....

Itu Kolo mee toure

Thing about our defence is it isn't down purely to the players. I think we can all admit that Skrtel has had a solid season over all and so has Sakho so it's a contradiction to say our defence has been crap all season despite conceding goals. Here are a couple of things we need to consider :-

1) When was the last time a team scored the most goals in the league but also conceded the least? I'm sure there are examples but I can't remember. The point I'm trying to make is one Paul Tomkins mentioned; that "we are who we are and not who we're not". Playing attacking football often means you'll be more prone to conceding than a team that parks the bus e.g. Chelsea. We have conceded 26 goals more than them but we've scored 30 more and we find ourselves 2 points ahead of them. The numbers reflect the difference between a more offensive team and a more defensive one. Makes sense doesn't it?

2) A lot of the goals we've conceded have come from defensive errors but at the same time, our centrebacks have largely had good games this season. What gives? Players are usually forced into making mistakes when they are under immense pressure or are left exposed. By pushing players forward we leave gaps at the back for opposition players to run at our defenders and not many centrebacks are comfortable with having forwards running at them. Skrtel and Sakho do well in physical battles but neither is particularly fleet footed. We therefore need to be smarter about when to push forwards in numbers i.e. when the momentum of the game is in our favour), and when to defend i.e. when the opponent catches a gust of wind in their sails. I don't think it's as much a case about having bad defenders than it is about being bad at defending.

In conclusion I'd say it's a case of "live by the sword, die by the sword". We should continue to take the game to teams. It's gotten us where we are today but we also need to realise that we cannot sustain our attacking play for 90 minutes and we need to choose the right times to retreat before going on the offensive again. New defenders aren't going to rectify our porous defence.

This post has been edited by Duke Red: May 7 2014, 11:32 AM

United will be back next season.

Championship?

Please la,no fighting2 We'll see in May 2015..

This post has been edited by Minecrafter: May 7 2014, 11:36 AM

I would be extremely delighted if we get both but to be fair, Griezmann is so effing good since I started watching him playing last season. This season he is even better. If we can snap them both, it could be the thing we need to improve our squad. The flair offered by Griezmann is definitely better than Moses.

with all due respect, i list a few more players that can offer better flair than Moses

But this guy has hit 20 goals this season. I was pointing out Moses because this guy plays the same position as Moses does...He plays at the wings with strong left foot but with an equally decent right foot. Now that Sociedad misses on Champion League. we can poach on him.

our 60m pound fund might not be enough to poach them all.....

Baines/Coleman/Luke Shaw/Lallana

you watch Real Scociedad? I am impressed!

No money no honey

20 + 17 + 12 + 16 = 65