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 Apr 29 2014, 09:12 AM, updated 12y ago
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Apr 29 2014, 09:13 AM
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http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Busines...hit-limit-down/
PETALING JAYA: Four small capitalised stocks hit limit-down yesterday, drawing the scrutiny of Bursa Malaysia. The four stocks went down almost simultaneously in the afternoon session, triggering speculation that the heavy sell-off was no coincidence. As at press time, Visdynamics Holdings Bhd told the exchange that it was unaware of any development that could be the cause for its share price to hit limit-down. The company was queried by the exchange over the unusual market activity (UMA) after the stock lost more than a third of its value to close 30 sen down at 47 sen yesterday. The biggest percentage loser yesterday was MNC Wireless Bhd whose share price plunged 23 sen, or 60% to close at 15 sen. The stock saw 20.6 million shares changing hands. The company has yet to respond to Bursa’s UMA query as at Press time. Dealers contacted by StarBiz yesterday said the unexplained heavy losses by these counters may rattle nervy investors and spark a broader sell-off in the market. “We are also assessing the trades in these counters including engaging with the brokers as to the reasons for such selling,’’ Bursa Malaysia said in an emailed response to a StarBiz query yesterday. “We will continue to vigilantly monitor the trading and take any other relevant action to ensure preservation of market integrity,” it said. Another stock that was hit hard yesterday was Solution Engineering Holdings Bhd, which went down 14 sen, or 53%, to 12 sen. Solution Engineering is 10.8% owned by Industronics Bhd, which saw its share price come down by a hefty 30 sen, or 44% yesterday to close at 38.5 sen. Except for Industronics’ stake in Solution Engineering, there was no other obvious common link between the four companies. The four have a combined market value of just about RM120mil, the biggest of which is Visdynamics with a market capitalisation of RM47mil. The steep decline in the shares of these companies took some shine off the fast-rising small cap stocks. The FTSE Bursa Malaysia Small Cap Index had risen 12.3% year-to-date at 17,631 points yesterday, off its all-time high of 17,867 points reached last Tuesday. In comparison, the benchmark FTSE Bursa Malaysia KL Composite Index was down 0.6% since the start of January at 1,855 points. While there is growing worries that prices of smaller stocks may have run ahead of its fundamentals, some analayts believe that there is plenty of room for upside for the sector. “The market may be taking a breather, but the lung is not collapsing,” MIDF Research said. It said despite the recent run-up, index’s technical reading remained “comfortably” in its “bullish formation” at above its 50-day moving average. “With the volatile May beckoning, we believe exciting times are in store for the lower liners,’’ it added. Investors were seen chasing up smaller stocks in recent months after a five-year bull run in the market lifted valuation of bigger stocks to a premium compared to their historical average. --------------- Last night charts.....  Candidate one..  Candidate two..  Candidate three..  Candidate four....  Outsider ......  |
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Apr 29 2014, 09:16 AM
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Last night....
 Dunno how many times must say..... NEVER TRUST THE CHINA MAN STOCKS!!!!   16 sen today. What is lowest today could be high in future days!!! |
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Apr 29 2014, 09:30 AM
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http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/business-ne...cap-stocks.html
Selldown on small-cap stocks Business & Markets 2014 Written by Charlotte Chong of theedgemalaysia.com Tuesday, 29 April 2014 08:54 A + A - Reset KUALA LUMPUR: Three small-cap counters — Industronics Bhd, VisDynamics Holdings Bhd and MNC Wireless Bhd — fell victim to a strong selldown yesterday, sparking concern whether the small-cap party is soon to be over. MNC Wireless topped the loser list, plummeting 60.5%, or 23 sen, to 15 sen yesterday from 38 sen last Friday, with 20.58 million shares changing hands. VisDynamics plunged 39%, or 30 sen, to 47 sen from 77 sen last Friday. Industronics dropped 43.8% to 38.5 sen, while Solution Engineering Holdings Bhd slid 52.7% to 13 sen. The heavy selling in Solution Engineering was partly due to the sale of 5.5 million shares, or a 2.96% stake, by Industronics at 12.63 sen per share on the open market. Some 47.9 million Solution Engineering shares were traded yesterday. Apart from VisDynamics, MNC Wireless was slapped with an unusual market activity (UMA) query by Bursa Malaysia after its share price hit limit down yesterday. The share prices of small-cap stocks have jumped in recent months to multi-year peaks, if not record highs. Before the selldown, MNC Wireless soared 46.15% in just two months to 38 sen on April 25 from 26 sen on Feb 20, while Solution Engineering climbed 40% within a month to 35 sen on April 22 from 25 sen on March 7. VisDynamics jumped 24.2% to 77 sen on April 25 from 62 sen on Dec 31 last year. On the other hand, Industronics rose 9.6% to 68.5 sen last Friday from 62.5 sen on Feb 4. Dealers said should the selling continue, it would prompt margin calls on stocks that had lost ground, and that would result in more downward pressure caused by forced selling. Already some stockbroking houses have designated a list of small-cap counters whose share prices have leapt several fold. The benchmark FBM KLCI dropped marginally by 0.28%, or 5.34 points, to 1,855.74 points yesterday. Etiqa Insurance & Takaful Bhd head of research Chris Eng concurred that Malaysian small-cap counters are relatively pricey compared with the big-cap stocks. “The small-cap stocks are outperforming the big-cap [ones],” he said. Eng felt that the weakening in the second half of April served as an indicator of possible stronger selldown or greater decline in the following month. “It will go down further in May,” he said. Commenting on the overall market, Eng said: “We will witness some weaknesses in the second half of April due to poor economic data. Domestically, we are uncertain of the implementation of the goods and services tax, whether it would be delayed.” He noted that it was unexpected that US corporate results had came in quite solid, which prompted rallies in the global equity markets. It was reported on April 22 that Standard & Poor’s 500 Index and the Nasdaq posted a sixth straight session of gains, led by the healthcare sector in the US. Eng said the FBM KLCI would take cues from the coming corporate results announcement next month, adding that the implementation of higher wages and the increase in utility bills would eat into corporate earnings. This article first appeared in The Edge Financial Daily, on April 29, 2014. |
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Apr 29 2014, 09:41 AM
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Mpay just nose dived....
sentiments turning bad......................... |
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Apr 29 2014, 09:47 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 29 2014, 09:41 AM) Mpay just nose dived.... This is 'current' chartsentiments turning bad.........................   Mpay case a bit more scary... The 'volume' is distinctively different than those that crashed yesterday..... watchout... negative sentiments being dragged in...... |
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Apr 29 2014, 09:51 AM
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Another one........  LOL! The MAY effect hitting them sharks ah?  |
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Apr 29 2014, 09:51 AM
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so, good time to buy?
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Apr 29 2014, 09:54 AM
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QUOTE(fkinmeng @ Apr 29 2014, 09:51 AM) so, good time to buy? Which ones?All these badly hit stocks? And your reason is...... ? |
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Apr 29 2014, 09:55 AM
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yet another one...............................  |
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Apr 29 2014, 10:02 AM
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Market killing all mid cap stock... all down like crazy.
LOL... kinda make sense when people are rating them with 12-15PER. |
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Apr 29 2014, 10:03 AM
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what is the new tread
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Apr 29 2014, 10:03 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 29 2014, 09:54 AM) Which ones? buy low? All these badly hit stocks? And your reason is...... ?  |
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Apr 29 2014, 10:03 AM
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Isit caused by the russian issue?
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Apr 29 2014, 10:04 AM
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good time to get in .
look for cheap n good stock |
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Apr 29 2014, 10:05 AM
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anything to buy at discount?
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Apr 29 2014, 10:06 AM
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Mid cap stocks all kena tar bao...
Beware... YTL green... LOL |
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Apr 29 2014, 10:06 AM
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Homerixxx.. what happen
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Apr 29 2014, 10:07 AM
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wah.. homer also kena ...
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Apr 29 2014, 10:08 AM
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wth is happening lol
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Apr 29 2014, 10:09 AM
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QUOTE(meteoraniac @ Apr 29 2014, 10:08 AM) wth is happening lol obama effect? |
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Apr 29 2014, 10:10 AM
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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ Apr 29 2014, 10:05 AM) anything to buy at discount?  YES! A fighter and not a lover!!!! Way to go!  You like FooFoo Fighters ah? Last night, I posted a lot of charts.... it was posted for a reason hor..... when negative sentiments creeps in....... you gotta give it respect..... and for the time being, this negative sentiment is KING! what fundamentals also must give face. |
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Apr 29 2014, 10:10 AM
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I can stop become KFC trader liao, time to value hunting
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Apr 29 2014, 10:12 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 29 2014, 10:10 AM) YES! A fighter and not a lover!!!! Way to go! You like FooFoo Fighters ah? Last night, I posted a lot of charts.... it was posted for a reason hor..... when negative sentiments creeps in....... you gotta give it respect..... and for the time being, this negative sentiment is KING! what fundamentals also must give face. |
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Apr 29 2014, 10:12 AM
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wah.. this one start making my heart beating fast... homer now 755
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Apr 29 2014, 10:12 AM
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i just browse a bit .....homeritz report ok mah
as usual...sell on news lol let it cool down then can go in again |
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Apr 29 2014, 10:13 AM
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Boon's charts...... very sueyyyyyyyyy
 Dont post liao... |
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Apr 29 2014, 10:14 AM
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What goes up, will come down as well...
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Apr 29 2014, 10:14 AM
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626 counters down, red vs 93 green
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Apr 29 2014, 10:15 AM
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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ Apr 29 2014, 10:12 AM) start doing research now on some of the overly sold stocks. See see also no harm mah Now only do research? (like chinese say, want to shit but dowan to go... wait until .... only go. LOL! ) Those that crashed... clear cut syndicated stocks la... what research you want to do? |
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Apr 29 2014, 10:15 AM
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QUOTE(jerrychoo2004 @ Apr 29 2014, 10:12 AM) i just browse a bit .....homeritz report ok mah yea lo, correction is pretty normal ..... up 20 % for past few months, then correction for _15% pretty normal.as usual...sell on news lol let it cool down then can go in again That's why patience is important....  |
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Apr 29 2014, 10:16 AM
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Market got a bit carried away.
Wild valuations... low&mid cap getting blue chip valuation. Time to go back to the basic. |
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Apr 29 2014, 10:16 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 29 2014, 10:15 AM) Now only do research? (like chinese say, want to shit but dowan to go... wait until .... only go. LOL! ) Those that crashed... clear cut syndicated stocks la... what research you want to do? MPAY....I need to see see 1st. |
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Apr 29 2014, 10:17 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 29 2014, 10:15 AM) Now only do research? (like chinese say, want to shit but dowan to go... wait until .... only go. LOL! ) Those that crashed... clear cut syndicated stocks la... what research you want to do?  |
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Apr 29 2014, 10:18 AM
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maybe can top up homer
average it down now |
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Apr 29 2014, 10:20 AM
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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ Apr 29 2014, 10:12 AM) start doing research now on some of the overly sold stocks. See see also no harm mah after research please let us know the cause. tqvm |
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Apr 29 2014, 10:22 AM
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QUOTE(cksoon @ Apr 29 2014, 10:18 AM) maybe can top up homer Homer recovered a bit... average it down now |
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Apr 29 2014, 10:22 AM
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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ Apr 29 2014, 10:13 AM) Boon's charts...... very sueyyyyyyyyy Dont post liao... I stayed on the forum late last night and posted the charts for a reason. I warned about the spillover effects..... |
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Apr 29 2014, 10:23 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 29 2014, 10:22 AM) I stayed on the forum late last night and posted the charts for a reason. I warned about the spillover effects..... post la chart that can up. |
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Apr 29 2014, 10:24 AM
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What is happening. All down. Lol.
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Apr 29 2014, 10:25 AM
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lol homer recovering? i curi curi go in just now at 0.75
got dividen ex next month 28th |
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Apr 29 2014, 10:25 AM
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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ Apr 29 2014, 10:16 AM) U think I have a lot time do research meh, no need do business ar? MPAY....I need to see see 1st. Then you want to make KFC money... but you think no need to do early homework ah? Stocks tend to follow leaders.... for penny stocks... who are the leaders? would you say it is the shark controlled stocks? if they are leaders.... and it falls bad..... ( our newspaper thinks it is so important that Star carried the news, the Edge carried the news ... )won't the negative sentiments spillover? |
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Apr 29 2014, 10:26 AM
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btw especially VIS ar..no buyer those t4 all kena...
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Apr 29 2014, 10:26 AM
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QUOTE(jerrychoo2004 @ Apr 29 2014, 10:25 AM) lol homer recovering? i curi curi go in just now at 0.75 1sen saja... but now you earn more from share... LOLgot dividen ex next month 28th |
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Apr 29 2014, 10:30 AM
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QUOTE(jerrychoo2004 @ Apr 29 2014, 10:25 AM) lol homer recovering? i curi curi go in just now at 0.75 Pandai you, got it at the lowest! got dividen ex next month 28th |
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Apr 29 2014, 10:31 AM
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woi what happened to Homer
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Apr 29 2014, 10:31 AM
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Very long time no see this...
Semua pasal Liverpool kalah... This post has been edited by andrekua2: Apr 29 2014, 10:31 AM Attached thumbnail(s) 
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Apr 29 2014, 10:31 AM
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Homer ki siao already... got punched and beaten in face and head
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Apr 29 2014, 10:31 AM
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Apr 29 2014, 10:31 AM) oi what happened to Homer :shocked: LOL are you gonna be freaked out when you see the rest of counters? time to top up |
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Apr 29 2014, 10:33 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 29 2014, 10:25 AM) Then you want to make KFC money... but you think no need to do early homework ah? Stocks tend to follow leaders.... for penny stocks... who are the leaders? would you say it is the shark controlled stocks? if they are leaders.... and it falls bad..... ( our newspaper thinks it is so important that Star carried the news, the Edge carried the news ... )won't the negative sentiments spillover? kinda lucky, if not burnt hurtly now.Shark control or not I don't know la, but sure stocks follow leader one. pretty known liao lo the negative sentiments spillover now, but if I like the stocks and the value, check a bit of the chart, don't care and buy....think so much for what. |
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Apr 29 2014, 10:33 AM
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Apr 29 2014, 10:31 AM) Very long time no see this... Nolah... coz "they" are angry at obama Semua pasal Liverpool kalah... |
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Apr 29 2014, 10:33 AM
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Apr 29 2014, 10:31 AM) Very long time no see this... lol like this also can blame liverpoool??Semua pasal Liverpool kalah... it is the moyes effect i tell u sack moyes......epl reset back to factory default |
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Apr 29 2014, 10:33 AM
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Every small cap also kena lor. Why so surprised?
In fact, how much had they rise over the year compared to this small drop? |
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Apr 29 2014, 10:34 AM
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QUOTE(cksoon @ Apr 29 2014, 10:31 AM) LOL are you gonna be freaked out when you see the rest of counters? time to top up Scientex also kena  Homer...want top up or not leh |
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Apr 29 2014, 10:34 AM
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QUOTE(cksoon @ Apr 29 2014, 10:31 AM) LOL are you gonna be freaked out when you see the rest of counters? time to top up Let me psycho you....when stocks shoot up 20% or more..... would you dare buy? how often do you chase those stocks right away? now when stocks shoot down 20% or more... why do you want to buy those stocks right away? why the thinking is different? |
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Apr 29 2014, 10:35 AM
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Apr 29 2014, 10:31 AM) woi what happened to Homer Profit drop compared to last 2Q... |
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Apr 29 2014, 10:35 AM
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My Watchlist, 80% red
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Apr 29 2014, 10:35 AM
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Apr 29 2014, 10:34 AM) Scientex also kena how many cash holding left ? Homer...want top up or not leh |
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Apr 29 2014, 10:36 AM
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QUOTE(gark @ Apr 29 2014, 10:35 AM) Profit drop compared to last 2Q... Boon cakap you tak tau kira... Naik baru betul... |
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Apr 29 2014, 10:37 AM
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QUOTE(jonchai @ Apr 29 2014, 10:35 AM) My Watchlist, 80% red Well, well... semua main mid cap... sekarang mesti semua merah. |
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Apr 29 2014, 10:38 AM
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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ Apr 29 2014, 10:35 AM) how many cash holding left ? Can buy 1 lot Nestle lor |
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Apr 29 2014, 10:38 AM
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QUOTE(gark @ Apr 29 2014, 10:35 AM) Profit drop compared to last 2Q... you better sell. heeeeehehe |
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Apr 29 2014, 10:38 AM
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Apr 29 2014, 10:36 AM) Boon cakap you tak tau kira... Naik baru betul... Depend how you count loh.. if compared to last year then up 100%, if compared to last 2Q then drop.. FCF is still healthy at 6 Month ~ 6.5 cents/share, cash up by 20 million  |
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Apr 29 2014, 10:39 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 29 2014, 10:38 AM) you better sell. heeeeehehe |
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Apr 29 2014, 10:39 AM
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Apr 29 2014, 10:37 AM) Well, well... semua main mid cap... sekarang mesti semua merah. don't know what's happening to the market. All withdraw money go labour day holiday? |
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Apr 29 2014, 10:39 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 29 2014, 10:34 AM) Let me psycho you.... coz the value is 'right' for us now and to buy at undervalued stock when stocks shoot up 20% or more..... would you dare buy? how often do you chase those stocks right away? now when stocks shoot down 20% or more... why do you want to buy those stocks right away? why the thinking is different? |
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Apr 29 2014, 10:40 AM
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but MAS small cap, staying strong... LOL nobody wanna sell or buy?
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Apr 29 2014, 10:41 AM
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QUOTE(gark @ Apr 29 2014, 10:38 AM) Depend how you count loh.. if compared to last year then up 100%, if compared to last 2Q then drop.. Actually such a small market cap, and only have 6months order, how much are you willing to value it? FCF is still healthy at 6 Month ~ 6.5 cents/share, cash up by 20 million |
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Apr 29 2014, 10:41 AM
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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ Apr 29 2014, 10:33 AM) Shark control or not I don't know la, but sure stocks follow leader one. Look at the 4 charts posted last night and reposted on page 1. if those are not shark controlled... I think I better quit the market and sell popiah by the roadside. |
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Apr 29 2014, 10:42 AM
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QUOTE(cksoon @ Apr 29 2014, 10:39 AM) coz the value is 'right' for us now and to buy at undervalued stock LOL!!!Follow your own advice and go buy quickly then! |
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Apr 29 2014, 10:43 AM
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Apr 29 2014, 10:41 AM) Actually such a small market cap, and only have 6months order, how much are you willing to value it? Let just put it my entry price is still comfortably above th current value... so I am not worried. |
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Apr 29 2014, 10:43 AM
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QUOTE(gark @ Apr 29 2014, 10:39 AM) Devil come already... hohoho... why cannot meh?Better be the devil.... looks real fun. So you sell or not chek. |
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Apr 29 2014, 10:44 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 29 2014, 10:41 AM) I think I better quit the market and sell popiah by the roadside. |
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Apr 29 2014, 10:44 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 29 2014, 10:41 AM) Look at the 4 charts posted last night and reposted on page 1. if those are not shark controlled... I think I better quit the market and sell popiah by the roadside. But do I care? shark control or not if fundamental shit, why should I care shark control. if fundamental good and value bargain, I also don't care the shark control or not. My way of playing la.... |
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Apr 29 2014, 10:44 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 29 2014, 10:43 AM) hohoho... why cannot meh? Not yet.. U CP already boh? Better be the devil.... looks real fun. So you sell or not chek. Cash flow still good... |
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Apr 29 2014, 10:45 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 29 2014, 10:43 AM) hohoho... why cannot meh? Why you want him to sell jeh?Better be the devil.... looks real fun. So you sell or not chek. You sold? |
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Apr 29 2014, 10:47 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 29 2014, 10:41 AM) Look at the 4 charts posted last night and reposted on page 1. if those are not shark controlled... I think I better quit the market and sell popiah by the roadside. |
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Apr 29 2014, 10:47 AM
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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ Apr 29 2014, 10:44 AM) I noob mah, how I know? You don't day day bruff me.But do I care? shark control or not if fundamental shit, why should I care shark control. if fundamental good and value bargain, I also don't care the shark control or not. My way of playing la.... You where got noob. Noob no write terror geng blog one. well, today is a good example of whether you want to care or not care for kfc traders. shark controlled stocks and heavy blind punting has been rampant past couple weeks. when something drastic happens (like yesterday), the market will BLINDLY follow suit..... You look at some of those so called fundamental good stocks.... today got also kena or not? |
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Apr 29 2014, 10:48 AM
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QUOTE(jonchai @ Apr 29 2014, 10:47 AM) What's your definition of shark? Ah long? Loan shark go read last night postings...... |
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Apr 29 2014, 10:48 AM
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QUOTE(jonchai @ Apr 29 2014, 10:47 AM) What's your definition of shark? Ah long? Loan shark Money magic? washing money? |
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Apr 29 2014, 10:48 AM
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FA stocks is not a guarantee!!! that's for sure
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Apr 29 2014, 10:49 AM
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QUOTE(gark @ Apr 29 2014, 10:44 AM) Not yet.. U CP already boh? Kakakaka! Cash flow still good... you want to reverse ping pong back meh? |
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Apr 29 2014, 10:49 AM
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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ Apr 29 2014, 10:48 AM) FA stocks is not a guarantee for short term !!! that's for sure Corrected... |
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Apr 29 2014, 10:49 AM
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QUOTE(gark @ Apr 29 2014, 10:49 AM) Corrected... Cheh |
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Apr 29 2014, 10:50 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 29 2014, 10:49 AM) Kakakaka! Soooo I tell already loh, u no tell yet.. you want to reverse ping pong back meh?  |
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Apr 29 2014, 10:51 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 29 2014, 10:49 AM) Kakakaka! UMA mesti ada response...you want to reverse ping pong back meh? Jangan tak tau... boring la |
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Apr 29 2014, 10:51 AM
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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ Apr 29 2014, 10:49 AM) Cheh Double Cheh! Ah Gark giving you England lesson. You better pay attention. |
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Apr 29 2014, 10:53 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 29 2014, 10:51 AM) Double Cheh! Triple cheh! Ah Gark giving you England lesson. You better pay attention.  Anyway excitement running slower... phew |
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Apr 29 2014, 10:53 AM
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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ Apr 29 2014, 10:48 AM) FA stocks is not a guarantee!!! that's for sure LOL... FA or not, its all about valuation. Just research and see how many companies are trading at discount to their NTA. If you got appetite for risk, just go ahead. If not, sit at sideline. If got guarantee win, will folks still keep money in FD? |
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Apr 29 2014, 10:53 AM
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QUOTE(gark @ Apr 29 2014, 10:50 AM) Soooo I tell already loh, u no tell yet.. CSL 14 sen.....you potong ah? LOL! |
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Apr 29 2014, 10:53 AM
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vis bounce ad, who get double up the money~
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Apr 29 2014, 10:54 AM
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today lau sai
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Apr 29 2014, 10:54 AM
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today lau sai
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Apr 29 2014, 10:55 AM
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QUOTE(iAlien @ Apr 29 2014, 10:53 AM) vis bounce ad, who get double up the money~ You lor...  |
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Apr 29 2014, 10:55 AM
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Apr 29 2014, 10:53 AM) LOL... Low NTA is no guarantee the stock will perform.. some NTA can go lower and lower when the earnings is in trouble... FA or not, its all about valuation. Just research and see how many companies are trading at discount to their NTA. If you got appetite for risk, just go ahead. If not, sit at sideline. If got guarantee win, will folks still keep money in FD? This post has been edited by gark: Apr 29 2014, 10:56 AM |
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Apr 29 2014, 10:56 AM
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mpay seems tempting, anyone managed to get in?
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Apr 29 2014, 10:56 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 29 2014, 10:53 AM) CSL 14 sen..... That one for jonchai only.. you potong ah? LOL! I think gonna go to 0.1 sen soon.. cannot issue Q report..  This post has been edited by gark: Apr 29 2014, 10:57 AM |
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Apr 29 2014, 10:57 AM
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buy in target for vis 10sen
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Apr 29 2014, 10:59 AM
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today is correction cum adjustmnent only dont panic
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Apr 29 2014, 10:59 AM
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QUOTE(gark @ Apr 29 2014, 10:56 AM) That one for jonchai only.. Why me? I'm XDL man I think gonna go to 0.1 sen soon.. cannot issue Q report.. |
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Apr 29 2014, 10:59 AM
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QUOTE(aylwyn paul @ Apr 29 2014, 10:57 AM) buy in target for vis 10sen Too bad you set so low... otherwise now Anyway, seem like market appetite is back. Most if not all are recovering. In fact, some are turning green. |
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Apr 29 2014, 11:02 AM
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QUOTE(jonchai @ Apr 29 2014, 10:59 AM) Why me? I'm XDL man Cause today never see your monkey avatar mah... Got new purchase? |
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Apr 29 2014, 10:59 AM) Too bad you set so low... otherwise now Typical speculators.. Anyway, seem like market appetite is back. Most if not all are recovering. In fact, some are turning green. Morning panic sell, hope to buy lower... Price u-turn, panic buy otherwise miss the boat... |
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Apr 29 2014, 11:03 AM
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QUOTE(gark @ Apr 29 2014, 11:02 AM) Cause today never see your monkey avatar mah... What do you recommend? Got new purchase? |
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Apr 29 2014, 11:03 AM
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QUOTE(gark @ Apr 29 2014, 10:56 AM) That one for jonchai only.. if 1 sen ...... I think gonna go to 0.1 sen soon.. cannot issue Q report.. just imagine.... 19 April 2012 this chinaman stock was selling at 1.92!!!!! .... cannot issue Q report... cos fire mah.... LOL! so easy..... now where will the RM 1 billion cash go? ...... and today got NEW china man stock listed somemore! how can those idotic china man not love Malaysia????? |
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Apr 29 2014, 11:04 AM
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Apr 29 2014, 11:03 AM) What do you recommend? Nothing for now.... still monitoring... |
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Apr 29 2014, 11:04 AM
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MPAY is now back on track
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Apr 29 2014, 11:04 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 29 2014, 11:03 AM) if 1 sen ...... Corrected just imagine.... 19 April 2012 this chinaman stock was selling at 1.92!!!!! .... cannot issue Q report... cos fire mah.... LOL! so easy..... now where will the RM 1 billion cash go? ...... and today got NEW china man stock listed somemore! how can those china man not love idotic Malaysia????? |
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Apr 29 2014, 11:05 AM
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QUOTE(gark @ Apr 29 2014, 11:02 AM) Cause today never see your monkey avatar mah... Got. Bought so HoHup Got new purchase? Busy ma, got few projects on hand. No time see stocks |
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Apr 29 2014, 11:05 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 29 2014, 11:03 AM) how can those smart china man not love idiotic Malaysia????? I think they will later declare the RM 1 Billion was stored in the office in cardboard boxes.... |
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Apr 29 2014, 11:06 AM
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Apr 29 2014, 10:55 AM) You lor... me tak dak lo~~ but must be someone earning d |
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QUOTE(jonchai @ Apr 29 2014, 10:59 AM) Why me? I'm XDL man if CSL cannot really issue Q report...and falls to 1 sen... I tell you hor.... really bad negative sentiments will hit all the other china man stocks! you been warned.... |
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Apr 29 2014, 11:07 AM
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QUOTE(jonchai @ Apr 29 2014, 11:05 AM) Got. Bought so HoHup Ho Hup... sama boat as Insas.. Busy ma, got few projects on hand. No time see stocks |
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Apr 29 2014, 11:07 AM
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QUOTE(iAlien @ Apr 29 2014, 11:06 AM) me tak dak lo~~ but must be someone earning d You say leh... I where got play with fire one... I play bunga api wan, not like you guy, can play mercun... |
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Apr 29 2014, 11:08 AM
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QUOTE(gark @ Apr 29 2014, 11:05 AM) Correction! Correction! I think they will later declare the RM 1 Billion was stored in the office in cardboard boxes.... my turn to kena England classes .................. |
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Apr 29 2014, 11:09 AM
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QUOTE(gark @ Apr 29 2014, 11:07 AM) Ho Hup... sama boat as Insas.. I really cannot see why Ho Hup is that good.Of that Insas group, I cant see a single thing not overpriced (Except Insas itself). |
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Apr 29 2014, 11:09 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 29 2014, 11:06 AM) if CSL cannot really issue Q report... No worries and falls to 1 sen... I tell you hor.... really bad negative sentiments will hit all the other china man stocks! you been warned.... I no play chinaman stocks. Only on paper when gark asked me to buy Wanna test how trustworthy is gark |
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Apr 29 2014, 11:09 AM
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QUOTE(gark @ Apr 29 2014, 11:07 AM) Ho Hup... sama boat as Insas.. You jump I jump, remember to inform me |
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QUOTE(jonchai @ Apr 29 2014, 11:05 AM) Got. Bought so HoHup waaaaa..... busy is good. Busy ma, got few projects on hand. No time see stocks want to hire me ah? hohup not a bad choice. |
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Apr 29 2014, 11:10 AM
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QUOTE(gark @ Apr 29 2014, 11:05 AM) Correction! Correction! Maybe got one big fire proof safety box leh... who knows I think they will later declare the RM 1 Billion was stored in the office in cardboard boxes.... |
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Apr 29 2014, 11:11 AM
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QUOTE(jonchai @ Apr 29 2014, 11:09 AM) Wanna test how trustworthy is gark I better 555 this. |
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 29 2014, 11:10 AM) waaaaa..... busy is good. I'm not boss o. want to hire me ah? hohup not a bad choice. Wanna be propert negotiator? Commission 2 units left on hand. Come help sell |
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QUOTE(jonchai @ Apr 29 2014, 11:09 AM) No worries Not trustworthy at all..... I no play chinaman stocks. Only on paper when gark asked me to buy Wanna test how trustworthy is gark My mission is to bring jonchai to holland only... go find dutch girl, eat 'spiced' brownies & smoke w**d. This post has been edited by gark: Apr 29 2014, 11:12 AM |
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QUOTE(jonchai @ Apr 29 2014, 11:11 AM) I'm not boss o. Property also sell.Wanna be propert negotiator? Commission 2 units left on hand. Come help sell Oh man, what else do you sell? |
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Apr 29 2014, 11:12 AM
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QUOTE(gark @ Apr 29 2014, 11:11 AM) Not trustworthy at all..... Oi, I already have Holland lady looo, no need go Holland find. My mission is to bring jonchai to holland only... go find dutch girl, eat 'spiced' cakes & smoke w**d. My Holland lady also nosediving Must be getting saggy |
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Apr 29 2014, 11:13 AM
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QUOTE(jonchai @ Apr 29 2014, 11:11 AM) I'm not boss o. Sell stocks I know la....Wanna be propert negotiator? Commission 2 units left on hand. Come help sell Sell popiah also I should know kua...... |
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Apr 29 2014, 11:14 AM
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Apr 29 2014, 11:12 AM) Property also sell. Property is side income only. Hardly get to sell, finish work go home already sibeh tired. Sometimes need to work on some IT projects some more. Only if I happen to come across some rich fags, then I push a bit Oh man, what else do you sell? |
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Apr 29 2014, 11:14 AM
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QUOTE(jonchai @ Apr 29 2014, 11:14 AM) Property is side income only. Hardly get to sell, finish work go home already sibeh tired. Sometimes need to work on some IT projects some more. Only if I happen to come across some rich fags, then I push a bit IT project somemore.What you do? Website? |
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Apr 29 2014, 11:15 AM
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QUOTE(jonchai @ Apr 29 2014, 11:12 AM) Oi, I already have Holland lady looo, no need go Holland find. I used to own Holland Lady....... My Holland lady also nosediving |
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Apr 29 2014, 11:16 AM
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Apr 29 2014, 11:14 AM) IT project somemore. Website, web applications, mobile apps. See my siggy What you do? Website? |
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Apr 29 2014, 11:16 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 29 2014, 11:15 AM) I used to own Holland Lady....... Can keep I think. I'm gonna buy more milk tonight to support her |
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Apr 29 2014, 11:17 AM
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QUOTE(jonchai @ Apr 29 2014, 11:16 AM) Website, web applications, mobile apps. See my siggy IT cannot survive? Why need a perma job? |
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Apr 29 2014, 11:19 AM
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QUOTE(jonchai @ Apr 29 2014, 11:16 AM) Can keep I think. I'm gonna buy more milk tonight to support her I sold last time at 49. |
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Apr 29 2014, 11:21 AM
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Apr 29 2014, 11:17 AM) IT cannot survive? Why need a perma job? IT, depends. Now a lot of freelancers, especially Indians, come and undercut you. They can do things cheap. People nowadays outsource to them. Programming for small companies is a deadend. Now only huge companies (well, mid to large enterprises) can afford to keep them. Imagine this, you spend 3 months to train them, yes programming is that difficult to train. Work for you for 6 months, they run to another company for higher pay. The cycle continues. In terms of pay, I can't outpay when compared to large companies. So now, I scale down and do only when I have time. |
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Apr 29 2014, 11:22 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 29 2014, 11:19 AM) I sold last time at 49. I regret setting TP too high for Genting. Could've sold off at 10, I set at 10.4 pulak. Now also nosedive. |
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QUOTE(jonchai @ Apr 29 2014, 11:21 AM) IT, depends. Now a lot of freelancers, especially Indians, come and undercut you. They can do things cheap. People nowadays outsource to them. Programming for small companies is a deadend. Now only huge companies (well, mid to large enterprises) can afford to keep them. Just do low end job la... you will be surprised by what they get compared to what they deliver.Imagine this, you spend 3 months to train them, yes programming is that difficult to train. Work for you for 6 months, they run to another company for higher pay. The cycle continues. In terms of pay, I can't outpay when compared to large companies. So now, I scale down and do only when I have time. My boss paid few hundreds for a company profile which is basically nothing, just 4-5 pages of shit. Then they also paid few hundreds for ad design which is basically just like bunch of photos in aligned row,columns with description. I wish they would paid me for that. |
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QUOTE(gark @ Apr 29 2014, 11:11 AM) Not trustworthy at all..... gark you giving tips ? My mission is to bring jonchai to holland only... go find dutch girl, eat 'spiced' brownies & smoke w**d. Dutch girls = Dutch Lady spiced brownies= APPOLO Smoke Weed = BAT |
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Apr 29 2014, 11:28 AM
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Apr 29 2014, 11:25 AM) Just do low end job la... you will be surprised by what they get compared to what they deliver. Ask your boss to outsource to me My boss paid few hundreds for a company profile which is basically nothing, just 4-5 pages of shit. Then they also paid few hundreds for ad design which is basically just like bunch of photos in aligned row,columns with description. I wish they would paid me for that. I sapu anything, guarantee cheap and good quality |
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Apr 29 2014, 11:28 AM
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QUOTE(jonchai @ Apr 29 2014, 11:22 AM) I bought at 475 Banyak kaya... semua bluechip. I regret setting TP too high for Genting. Could've sold off at 10, I set at 10.4 pulak. Now also nosedive. But why you no buy Digi geh? I thought Digi is the best blue chip. |
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Apr 29 2014, 11:30 AM
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Apr 29 2014, 11:28 AM) Banyak kaya... semua bluechip. No kaya la. Buy small amount only But why you no buy Digi geh? I thought Digi is the best blue chip. Well, I'm a Maxis user. I drink Holland milk. I go play mesin harimau |
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Apr 29 2014, 11:30 AM
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QUOTE(jonchai @ Apr 29 2014, 11:21 AM) IT, depends. Now a lot of freelancers, especially Indians, come and undercut you. They can do things cheap. People nowadays outsource to them. Programming for small companies is a deadend. Now only huge companies (well, mid to large enterprises) can afford to keep them. got outsource JOB for me Imagine this, you spend 3 months to train them, yes programming is that difficult to train. Work for you for 6 months, they run to another company for higher pay. The cycle continues. In terms of pay, I can't outpay when compared to large companies. So now, I scale down and do only when I have time. Experience with BANK and INSURANCE -10year exp |
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Apr 29 2014, 11:32 AM
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QUOTE(felixmask @ Apr 29 2014, 11:30 AM) got outsource JOB for me Programming as well? Or banking and insurance? Experience with BANK and INSURANCE -10year exp Programming in insurance, I have one job |
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Apr 29 2014, 11:33 AM
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QUOTE(jonchai @ Apr 29 2014, 11:22 AM) I bought at 475 I regret setting TP too high for Genting. Could've sold off at 10, I set at 10.4 pulak. Now also nosedive. this is why I told you, I only like to play stocks that has got huge potentials.... buying Genting at 970 and having a TP of 1040.... very limiting potential.... |
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Apr 29 2014, 11:33 AM
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Im just realizing there are so much magic show going on in the most active.
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Apr 29 2014, 11:34 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 29 2014, 11:33 AM) this is why I told you, I only like to play stocks that has got huge potentials.... buying Genting at 970 and having a TP of 1040.... very limiting potential.... |
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Apr 29 2014, 11:35 AM
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Boon3 ... are you secretly an operator?
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Apr 29 2014, 11:35 AM
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QUOTE(jonchai @ Apr 29 2014, 11:34 AM) That time got some money, hands itchy, no huge potential stock come to mind ma My motto is simple.... always play to win big. |
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QUOTE(jonchai @ Apr 29 2014, 11:32 AM) Programming as well? Or banking and insurance? we dicuss in PM.Programming in insurance, I have one job |
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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ Apr 29 2014, 11:35 AM) Boon3 ... are you secretly an operator? Yup....my other profession is a telephone operator...... |
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QUOTE i was expecting the current quarter performance is on par with last quarter ok la. not much expectation. QUOTE you normally should not compare a q result with its preceding q result. comparison should be made with same quarter the previous year. some business are seasonal. for example, for this reporting quarter, it's the period from Dec to Feb. For exporters to countries like US... this is a slow, slow time of the year. It takes a little WORK... lay out the q results like this below... 2011 q1 q2 q3 q4 2012 q1 q2 q3 q4 2013 q1 q2 q3 q4 where q1 shows q1 profits, q2 shows q2 profits... once it is laid out... certain trends for certain companies are very clear.... yes, it becomes a simple look see exercise... Want to show you this.... This is the sample table...  as you can see from the table... every year.... 1. Q1 profits < Q4 2. Q2 profits < Q1 3. Profits only picks up in Q3 and Q4. Why? it's seasonal. such characteristic happens in a lot of companies.... for example also... say beer sale... they always increase in festive seasons.... remember for an exporting company to US, Q1 and Q2 are the 'slower' period. And when you gauge a company, how do you gauge it? You gauge the company's progress each year right? The most important thing for shareholders is to see profit grow each year.... and to help this, financials whiz, uses yardsticks like TTM or trailing twelve month earnings....  |
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 29 2014, 11:35 AM) My motto is simple.... always play to win big. How much you earn today on 555? Surely you got buy those limit down shares on your 555 |
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 29 2014, 11:36 AM) Yup.... My spidey sense tingling.. my other profession is a telephone operator...... I think... MUST BE LAH...  |
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Apr 29 2014, 11:38 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 29 2014, 11:36 AM) Yup.... So you're suggesting to buy a Telco stock ? my other profession is a telephone operator...... Everyone! Boon3 suggests Telco stock! Buy at your own risk! |
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Apr 29 2014, 11:38 AM
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Wah, Boon...
You purposely make one or your trading platform so good? What platform are you using? |
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Apr 29 2014, 11:39 AM
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QUOTE(jonchai @ Apr 29 2014, 11:38 AM) So you're suggesting to buy a Telco stock ? Too late la bro... Everyone! Boon3 suggests Telco stock! Buy at your own risk! I have a buy call on Digi since RM7... if only I had 20-30K back then... |
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Apr 29 2014, 11:40 AM
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QUOTE(jonchai @ Apr 29 2014, 11:38 AM) So you're suggesting to buy a Telco stock ? Everyone! Boon3 suggests Telco stock! Buy at your own risk! Ah Boon says buy his popiah! |
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Apr 29 2014, 11:41 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 29 2014, 11:40 AM) Ah Boon says buy his popiah! |
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Apr 29 2014, 11:41 AM
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Sound so WRONG>........
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Apr 29 2014, 11:41 AM
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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ Apr 29 2014, 11:37 AM) My spidey sense tingling.. I think... MUST BE LAH... Can't wait to see new spidey show. |
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Apr 29 2014, 11:42 AM
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Errr can ayone answer this? What is 0400GA / GB? They look weird ... and kinda funny in a way. Easter egg?
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Apr 29 2014, 11:49 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 29 2014, 11:41 AM) Can't wait to see new spidey show. |
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Apr 29 2014, 11:50 AM
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Jerry good job eh. Was wondering why you entered at 0.75, looks like there's a gap there. Filled the gap. Nice
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Apr 29 2014, 11:51 AM
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QUOTE(gark @ Apr 29 2014, 10:38 AM) FCF is still healthy at 6 Month ~ 6.5 cents/share, cash up by 20 million  |
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Apr 29 2014, 11:53 AM
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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ Apr 29 2014, 11:49 AM) Don't like that they changed the main actor. This young boy is like a pubescent with pimples Most important he is tall and lanky leh.(I did not notice his pimples... LOL! ) The other spidey is so short..... So unlike the comic books. |
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Apr 29 2014, 11:55 AM
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QUOTE(hehe86 @ Apr 29 2014, 11:50 AM) Jerry good job eh. Was wondering why you entered at 0.75, looks like there's a gap there. Filled the gap. Nice So you saying and suggesting that this is a BUY ah?Can buy 100,000 shares or not? |
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Apr 29 2014, 11:56 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 29 2014, 11:51 AM) I am really impressed with how much and how fast the cash is growing....... So did you top up? |
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Apr 29 2014, 11:58 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 29 2014, 11:55 AM) So you saying and suggesting that this is a BUY ah? Lol, all in? I don't practice all in lo. Short term ok kua, i'll try eh, have to know your TP/CL also lo. Myself sudah CP lo, lolCan buy 100,000 shares or not? |
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Apr 29 2014, 11:59 AM
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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ Apr 29 2014, 11:56 AM) So did you top up? Gark asked me sell already or not.You asked me buy or not. |
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Apr 29 2014, 12:00 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 29 2014, 11:59 AM) Gark asked me sell already or not. But you apa apa pun tadak answer You asked me buy or not. |
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Apr 29 2014, 12:00 PM
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QUOTE(hehe86 @ Apr 29 2014, 11:58 AM) Lol, all in? I don't practice all in lo. Short term ok kua, i'll try eh, have to know your TP/CL also lo. Myself sudah CP lo, lol  Pisang also you cut? |
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Apr 29 2014, 12:01 PM
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QUOTE(hehe86 @ Apr 29 2014, 11:50 AM) Jerry good job eh. Was wondering why you entered at 0.75, looks like there's a gap there. Filled the gap. Nice err just tikam lol |
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Apr 29 2014, 12:02 PM
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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ Apr 29 2014, 12:00 PM) But you apa apa pun tadak answer Told you I am not aware of spidey's pimples. |
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Apr 29 2014, 12:07 PM
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Apr 29 2014, 11:38 AM) Wah, Boon... That table from a website.You purposely make one or your trading platform so good? What platform are you using? http://www.malaysiastock.biz/Corporate-Inf...curityCode=5160 |
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Apr 29 2014, 12:25 PM
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QUOTE(felixmask @ Apr 29 2014, 11:27 AM) gark you giving tips ? Dutch girls = Dutch Lady spiced brownies= APPOLO Smoke Weed = BAT |
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Apr 29 2014, 12:25 PM
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(taken from The Star) Any inside story to share on this? Is this the drizzle before the storm? Cheerio. |
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Apr 29 2014, 12:28 PM
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QUOTE(plumberly @ Apr 29 2014, 12:25 PM)
(taken from The Star) Any inside story to share on this? Is this the drizzle before the storm? Cheerio. Posted already. |
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Apr 29 2014, 12:30 PM
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QUOTE(gark @ Apr 29 2014, 12:25 PM)  |
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Apr 29 2014, 12:31 PM
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Lunch looo ... Signout looo bye bye
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Apr 29 2014, 12:32 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 29 2014, 12:28 PM) See page 1. Sorry, did not see that one.Posted already. Cheerio. |
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Apr 29 2014, 12:32 PM
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QUOTE(jonchai @ Apr 29 2014, 12:31 PM) Lunch looo ... Signout looo bye bye Eat wat for lunch? ...  |
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Apr 29 2014, 12:34 PM
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QUOTE(gark @ Apr 29 2014, 12:32 PM) Eat wat for lunch? ... KFC |
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Apr 29 2014, 12:36 PM
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QUOTE(jonchai @ Apr 29 2014, 12:34 PM) KFC Lousy chicken la... Yesterday my customer bring me go eat kampong kai... My teeth almost came out... exercise chic really geng lar... |
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Apr 29 2014, 12:44 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 29 2014, 11:51 AM) I am really impressed with how much and how fast the cash is growing....... which company is this? |
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Apr 29 2014, 12:45 PM
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QUOTE(cksoon @ Apr 29 2014, 12:44 PM) which company is this? Homeritz |
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Apr 29 2014, 12:58 PM
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Apr 29 2014, 12:36 PM) Lousy chicken la... I eat kampong kai al the time in Indon.. where they are REALLY plentiful...Yesterday my customer bring me go eat kampong kai... My teeth almost came out... exercise chic really geng lar... Must know how to cook to remove the toughness... usually they steam first then only fry..really good. The taste of the meat is much sweeter than normal broiler chicken... » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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Apr 29 2014, 01:07 PM
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QUOTE(gark @ Apr 29 2014, 12:58 PM) I eat kampong kai al the time in Indon.. where they are REALLY plentiful... The first one also steam, but dont know why tough. Second one, was much better and quite tasty.Must know how to cook to remove the toughness... usually they steam first then only fry..really good. The taste of the meat is much sweeter than normal broiler chicken... » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « One more thing good about kampong kai is less fats on the chicken itself. |
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Apr 29 2014, 01:21 PM
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Apr 29 2014, 01:07 PM) The first one also steam, but dont know why tough. Second one, was much better and quite tasty. No artificial feed, antibiotics, growth hormone, pesticide, flu shots, GMO.... One more thing good about kampong kai is less fats on the chicken itself. This post has been edited by gark: Apr 29 2014, 01:23 PM |
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Apr 29 2014, 02:12 PM
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Why turn this into chicken thread?
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Apr 29 2014, 02:23 PM
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top 10 volume counters looks so red.. like supporting some team
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Apr 29 2014, 02:37 PM
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QUOTE(jonchai @ Apr 29 2014, 02:12 PM) Why turn this into chicken thread? u mean the hairy type or furry type? |
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Apr 29 2014, 03:01 PM
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Apr 29 2014, 02:37 PM) u mean the hairy type or furry type? Feathery type.. |
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Apr 29 2014, 03:01 PM
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QUOTE(plumberly @ Apr 29 2014, 12:32 PM) Sorry, did not see that one. Cheerio. no need sorry. this thread went too fast today. Anyway, I think it's all BS - making a big fuss over nothing. The volumes clearly indicated all those stocks (which co incidentally all had rotten fundamentals) were well MANAGED.... so what the big deal if it goes crashing down? |
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Apr 29 2014, 03:05 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 29 2014, 03:01 PM) no need sorry. this thread went too fast today. Anyway, I think it's all BS - making a big fuss over nothing. The volumes clearly indicated all those stocks (which co incidentally all had rotten fundamentals) were well MANAGED.... so what the big deal if it goes crashing down? |
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Apr 29 2014, 03:08 PM
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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ Apr 29 2014, 12:00 PM) But you apa apa pun tadak answer What's the conclusion? last fy 2013 eps 7.56 sen ttm eps now 10.25 sen how? |
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Apr 29 2014, 03:09 PM
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today already red. tommorrow will be better
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Apr 29 2014, 03:10 PM
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QUOTE(felixmask @ Apr 29 2014, 03:05 PM) not BS lah...but talk 3 and talk 4......entertain each other in the forum. I was referring to the news article which came out big big on Star and the Edge.Why need to highlight these badly 'managed' stocks? Attract buyers so that the managers can dump ah? |
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Apr 29 2014, 03:10 PM
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QUOTE(felixmask @ Apr 29 2014, 03:05 PM) not BS lah...but talk 3 and talk 4......entertain each other in the forum. Eat more chicken.. save the poultry industry.. |
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Apr 29 2014, 03:11 PM
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QUOTE(aylwyn paul @ Apr 29 2014, 03:09 PM) today already red. tommorrow will be better Red can become redder one.... |
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Apr 29 2014, 03:12 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 29 2014, 03:10 PM) I was referring to the news article which came out big big on Star and the Edge. can buy ???? how their Fundamental solid businesss..Why need to highlight these badly 'managed' stocks? Attract buyers so that the managers can dump ah? then we look at TA see their lou sai stop..aftermath the stock light as feather to change.reversal to HIT UP limit |
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Apr 29 2014, 03:15 PM
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 What does the above red circles tell you...? This post has been edited by gark: Apr 29 2014, 03:16 PM Attached thumbnail(s) 
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Apr 29 2014, 03:16 PM
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QUOTE(gark @ Apr 29 2014, 03:10 PM) Eat more chicken.. save the poultry industry.. Poultry industry really a lousy industry.Worst of the kind. If you think of it... the business economics is downright stupid. the chicken price is fix or not? the cost? Is it increasing or not? how to cari makan. |
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Apr 29 2014, 03:16 PM
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QUOTE(gark @ Apr 29 2014, 03:10 PM) Eat more chicken.. save the poultry industry.. Im vegetarian today..no chicken kill todayless a chicken slaught, less $$ money revenue in poultry industry. |
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Apr 29 2014, 03:17 PM
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QUOTE(gark @ Apr 29 2014, 12:32 PM) Eat wat for lunch? ... Seein the market so bad, raid office pantry and lunch on Milo and coffee will do...0 cost. |
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Apr 29 2014, 03:19 PM
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QUOTE(felixmask @ Apr 29 2014, 03:12 PM) can buy ???? how their Fundamental solid businesss.. Did you see how well orchestrated their volumes were before the crash yesterday? then we look at TA see their lou sai stop..aftermath the stock light as feather to change.reversal to HIT UP limit if these type of stocks can be traded... might as well ask shark for account number and bank in terus..... |
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Apr 29 2014, 03:20 PM
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QUOTE(topearn @ Apr 29 2014, 03:17 PM) Seein the market so bad, raid office pantry and lunch on Milo and coffee will do...0 cost. No need so cham mah... |
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Apr 29 2014, 03:22 PM
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QUOTE(gark @ Apr 29 2014, 03:15 PM) Red circles means what? 2011 - 12 m cash 2012 - 24 m cash 2013 - 34 m cash current - 51 mil cash WTF? This company printing cash one ah? You better sell. heeeeeehehe |
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Apr 29 2014, 03:24 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 29 2014, 03:19 PM) Did you see how well orchestrated their volumes were before the crash yesterday? what your account number ??? if these type of stocks can be traded... might as well ask shark for account number and bank in terus..... I bankin to you... eat vegetarian untill dump dump» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « This post has been edited by felixmask: Apr 29 2014, 03:24 PM |
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Apr 29 2014, 03:26 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 29 2014, 03:08 PM) What's the conclusion? means top up lo last fy 2013 eps 7.56 sen ttm eps now 10.25 sen how? buy at own risk |
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Apr 29 2014, 03:27 PM
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The redder the shares, the more talk 3 talk 4 here.
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Apr 29 2014, 03:36 PM
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QUOTE(billy_overheat @ Apr 29 2014, 03:27 PM) The redder the shares, the more talk 3 talk 4 here. :cheh:you don't give meh? |
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Apr 29 2014, 03:44 PM
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there is possible takeover news for Visdynamic, Industronic, mNC, and solution engineering.
we can take up if tomorrow they drop further |
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Apr 29 2014, 03:45 PM
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QUOTE(aylwyn paul @ Apr 29 2014, 03:44 PM) there is possible takeover news for Visdynamic, Industronic, mNC, and solution engineering. we can take up if tomorrow they drop further Shit! I fell off my chair! |
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Apr 29 2014, 03:46 PM
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ok i was wrong
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Apr 29 2014, 03:46 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 29 2014, 03:45 PM) Shit! I fell off my chair! |
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Apr 29 2014, 03:53 PM
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QUOTE(aylwyn paul @ Apr 29 2014, 03:44 PM) there is possible takeover news for Visdynamic, Industronic, mNC, and solution engineering. LOL take over all 4 at once, and only those which kaboom ... we can take up if tomorrow they drop further |
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Apr 29 2014, 03:55 PM
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QUOTE(billy_overheat @ Apr 29 2014, 03:27 PM) The redder the shares, the more talk 3 talk 4 here. give chance to buy mar. buy buy buy |
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QUOTE(gark @ Apr 29 2014, 03:53 PM) LOL take over all 4 at once, and only those which kaboom ... like MH370... |
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QUOTE(aylwyn paul @ Apr 29 2014, 03:44 PM) there is possible takeover news for Visdynamic, Industronic, mNC, and solution engineering. LOL we can take up if tomorrow they drop further |
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Apr 29 2014, 04:03 PM
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Boon3 be CFO, someone be CEO and etc.. hahah
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Apr 29 2014, 04:04 PM
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» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Axiata want to spin off their asset to Axiata Tower Reits ? |
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Apr 29 2014, 04:06 PM
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QUOTE(cksoon @ Apr 29 2014, 04:03 PM) Boon3 be CFO, someone be CEO and etc.. hahah summone pinkspider be Chief Entertainment Officer - » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « This post has been edited by felixmask: Apr 29 2014, 04:08 PM |
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QUOTE(felixmask @ Apr 29 2014, 04:06 PM) summone I wish I could smoke w**d...cos it's PURPORTEDLY less harmful than tobacco pinkspider be Chief Entertainment Officer - » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 29 2014, 11:36 AM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « don't ask me why. i just feel right too buy it.... i see all my friend syok syok wear g shock, i cannot tahan go buy it guess my portfolio would be 80 share:20 cash |
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guys, is it a good time to buy and keep for now?
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 29 2014, 03:01 PM) no need sorry. this thread went too fast today. Anyway, I think it's all BS - making a big fuss over nothing. The volumes clearly indicated all those stocks (which co incidentally all had rotten fundamentals) were well MANAGED.... so what the big deal if it goes crashing down? More to come in the next few months? Wondering why 4 at the SAME time? Same person/fund manager? Cheerio. |
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QUOTE(squarepilot @ Apr 29 2014, 04:27 PM) guys, is it a good time to buy and keep for now? what to buy |
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QUOTE(aylwyn paul @ Apr 29 2014, 04:29 PM) what to buy dont know. probably some mid cap stock since heavy sell down on both yesterday and today |
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 29 2014, 11:36 AM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « like this, I cannot simply take Q2 YTD numbers and multiply by two...it would be misleading/meaningless |
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Apr 29 2014, 04:40 PM
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my portfolio.....40% is homeritz liao LOL after today's top up
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boon3
let give example, company A quarter financial result 2013q1 profit 30m 2013q2 profit 20m 2014q1 profit 50m 2014q2 profit 40m q2 q-q comparison = +100% previous current comparison = -20% how would you rate this company then? would you still rate it as 100% growth in the coming quarter? what if company B: 2013q1 profit 40m 2013q2 profit 30m 2014q1 profit 50m 2014q2 profit 40m how would you rate then??? addon: since he no reply me yet, i add another company C company C 2013q1 profit 40m 2013q2 profit 20m 2014q1 profit 80m 2014q2 profit 40m how would you rate it then? 40-20=20m 80-40=40m This post has been edited by spring onion: Apr 29 2014, 04:49 PM |
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QUOTE(spring onion @ Apr 29 2014, 04:41 PM) boon3 Why bother comparing with last year when the price reflect whats going on now and future. let give example, company A quarter financial result 2013q1 profit 30m 2013q2 profit 20m 2014q1 profit 50m 2014q2 profit 40m q2 q-q comparison = +100% previous current comparison = -20% how would you rate this company then? would you still rate it as 100% growth in the coming quarter? what if company B: 2013q1 profit 40m 2013q2 profit 30m 2014q1 profit 50m 2014q2 profit 40m how would you rate then??? |
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QUOTE(cksoon @ Apr 29 2014, 04:03 PM) Boon3 be CFO, someone be CEO and etc.. hahah Tak nak. Nanti spoil my name... water wash also cannot clear. |
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Apr 29 2014, 04:44 PM) Why bother comparing with last year when the price reflect whats going on now and future. because boon was mentioning about seasonal business cycle mar. want to understand abit about it too |
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QUOTE(jerrychoo2004 @ Apr 29 2014, 04:40 PM) my portfolio.....40% is homeritz liao LOL after today's top up Wow everyone so bullish on Homer |
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Last quarter oso same thing... good result but homeriz price also kena throw down.
Then had to wait.... long long... for it to climb back again |
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Apr 29 2014, 04:48 PM) Wow everyone so bullish on Homer More like everyone just following...Only 2 persons did their homework... |
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QUOTE(spring onion @ Apr 29 2014, 04:24 PM) ok la and due to your strong comment i decided to top up homer. and guess what? i bought my long forsaken son marco too. Aiyooo... no need report me what you buy or what you sell. don't ask me why. i just feel right too buy it.... i see all my friend syok syok wear g shock, i cannot tahan go buy it guess my portfolio would be 80 share:20 cash Me not the reporting center. Homer? I just laid down the facts as it is hor.... I no say buy... I only ask my kawan Gark to sell..... |
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 29 2014, 04:49 PM) I no say buy... Means everyone else is not kawan...but waterfish...ikan bilis I only ask my kawan Gark to sell.....  |
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 29 2014, 04:49 PM) Aiyooo... no need report me what you buy or what you sell. aiya i just want to share with you so you can record in your 555. perhaps you can do some judgment about the share too for yourselfMe not the reporting center. Homer? I just laid down the facts as it is hor.... I no say buy... I only ask my kawan Gark to sell..... |
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QUOTE(spring onion @ Apr 29 2014, 04:41 PM) boon3 Fuyohhhh.... only A, B and C.... let give example, company A quarter financial result 2013q1 profit 30m 2013q2 profit 20m 2014q1 profit 50m 2014q2 profit 40m q2 q-q comparison = +100% previous current comparison = -20% how would you rate this company then? would you still rate it as 100% growth in the coming quarter? what if company B: 2013q1 profit 40m 2013q2 profit 30m 2014q1 profit 50m 2014q2 profit 40m how would you rate then??? addon: since he no reply me yet, i add another company C company C 2013q1 profit 40m 2013q2 profit 20m 2014q1 profit 80m 2014q2 profit 40m how would you rate it then? 40-20=20m 80-40=40m no D, no E? Actually fundamentals, you should ask gark... His England explain much better... If it is hard to see, use it with TTM. As long as the TTM numbers is better than the last year fy number... you know growth will be there.... Company A... Yes. clearly a growth company. Company B... Also growth company... Same Company C. Use TTM, trailing twelve months. you can see better. for example again... last fy 2013 eps 7.56 sen ttm eps now 10.25 sen ** in this case, the TTM assumption is Q3 and Q4 earnings is constant. and if it is constant TTM eps is 10.52... which means, there is a possibility the fy 2014 eps would improve from 7.56 sen to 10.25 sen. However.... LOL! As we know, Q3 and Q4 earnings usually stronger.... we assume here hor.... our risk.... which means there is a possibility that the EPS should be higher than 10.25 sen.... If I have to guess (hope I am not wrong) I would say maybe 13sen or 14sen.... ok? |
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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ Apr 29 2014, 04:49 PM) Last quarter oso same thing... good result but homeriz price also kena throw down. History repeats itself.... Then had to wait.... long long... for it to climb back again I did tell you before... that I do know people... who have such strategies.... they bet for certain patterns every couple of months..... whether it works or not.... you better run some sample stocks.... |
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QUOTE(spring onion @ Apr 29 2014, 04:46 PM) because boon was mentioning about seasonal business cycle mar. want to understand abit about it too Look at this other sample...http://www.malaysiastock.biz/Corporate-Inf...curityCode=2615 What do you see? |
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 29 2014, 05:01 PM) History repeats itself.... Next quarter, throw first I did tell you before... that I do know people... who have such strategies.... they bet for certain patterns every couple of months..... whether it works or not.... you better run some sample stocks.... |
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 29 2014, 04:59 PM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « QUOTE(lambethwalk @ Apr 29 2014, 05:04 PM) Next quarter, throw first you no scare got trend breaker? This post has been edited by spring onion: Apr 29 2014, 05:08 PM |
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target continue melt down buy in
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QUOTE(plumberly @ Apr 29 2014, 04:29 PM) With my biased eyes and mind, I see that as tell-tale signs of bigger problem brewing there. Ha. Spillover impacts..... sadly....rather crucial.More to come in the next few months? Wondering why 4 at the SAME time? Same person/fund manager? Our market not very matured... when things like this happen... punters ALWAYS, ALWAYS get very nervous...... sentiments turns negative.... and such incidents, which should not impact any fundamental stocks, simply causes uneasiness in our tiny market.... fundamentals strangely is thrown into the longkang... lol and then you have those remisers... you have those aunties.. uncles.... punters.... all suddenly becoming experts... they start adding vinegar... salt.... |
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QUOTE(spring onion @ Apr 29 2014, 05:07 PM) ok i got you finally! thanks for clarification you do understand the risks involved with Homer, right?there is no broker coverage (stock is still unknown, except for that half baked Kenanga report the other day) no news coverage... not attracting funds ..... and then the USD impact... this recent quarter is for the period Dec to Feb. Next quarter is for Mar to May.... USD is said to be a big plus booster .... you can actually have a sneak peep... compare current Mar and Apr's USD rates versus last year.... what you see?  |
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Apr 29 2014, 05:23 PM
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Chat Look Chat Look...on anyone's radar?
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 29 2014, 05:23 PM) you do understand the risks involved with Homer, right? it will head downwards(MYR, not USD there is no broker coverage (stock is still unknown, except for that half baked Kenanga report the other day) no news coverage... not attracting funds ..... and then the USD impact... this recent quarter is for the period Dec to Feb. Next quarter is for Mar to May.... USD is said to be a big plus booster .... you can actually have a sneak peep... compare current Mar and Apr's USD rates versus last year.... what you see? ) if according to chart. but is chart always right still remains a questionso when MYR is down, supposedly export volume increases, this causes large order for export company if buyers pays exporter in debt, this would probably increase the company profit. lets see how this company goes This post has been edited by spring onion: Apr 29 2014, 05:30 PM |
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Apr 29 2014, 05:23 PM) Chat Look Chat Look...on anyone's radar? Coma counter. Poor earnings... growth... This post has been edited by gark: Apr 29 2014, 06:32 PM |
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QUOTE(spring onion @ Apr 29 2014, 05:29 PM) it will head downwards(MYR, not USD Errr.... my England not good enough. ) if according to chart. but is chart always right still remains a questionso when MYR is down, supposedly export volume increases, this causes large order for export company if buyers pays exporter in debt, this would probably increase the company profit. lets see how this company goes Maybe that chart is not easy to see as a whole. Let's begin again and let me shoot you a long posting..... please note I am only explaining it as it is.... not a sell and not a buy.... If you read the earnings result, in fact the past few months, it is said that the HIGHER USD helped boost its profits. homer's main business is its exports. Yes exports. Most of it, is sold in USD. Higher USD translates to more ringgit, which means more profit. Ok so far? Yesterday result is for Dec 2013 to Feb 2014. I dared to guess the result should be good. This is because the USD multiple impact would be positive. let show you... This is the USD chart, from Dec 2013 to Feb 2014...  As you can say low USD was about 3.15, high was about 3.35.... and rough eye estimate is about 3.27 or so.... around there la... Now compare to previous year period, ie Dec 2012 to Feb 2013... yes compare against the previous year same period.... this is last year chart of that period...  low is about 2.94, high only 3.10 mostly... my rough eye estimate would say 3.05 or so. Now if say Homer export sales is USD 2 million. That USD 2 million, a year ago, using 3.05 would translate to around 6.1 million ringgit only. Compare to this period, where the USD is around roughly 3.27. That same USD 2 million translates to 6.54 million.. Same export figure but more ringgit back. Ok so far? please if I am wrong so far, say so la. I also learn learn one.... boh tak chik one. (where did I read that from? )Now this is where we get to GUESS the coming Q3 figures... with the help of the USD current prices. Next Q3 is for the period MARCH 2014 to MAY 2014. First we get last year chart first... This is how the USD traded last year for the period March 2013 to May 2013.  rough eye estimate? I would say 3.05. Ok we only have March 2014 and Apr 2014 figures... May 2014 not here yet... anyway this is where we are at....  my rough eye estimate.... maybe so far 3.25... comparing 3.25 and 3.05.... I can safely guess we should see positive USD multiplier impact again for Homer.... which means.... would you guess that the next quarter, Homer should also report much better earnings? ok so far? |
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Apr 29 2014, 07:47 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 29 2014, 07:21 PM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 29 2014, 11:33 AM) this is why I told you, I only like to play stocks that has got huge potentials.... buying Genting at 970 and having a TP of 1040.... very limiting potential.... Hope June got good news. One of it is the New York license |
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QUOTE(gark @ Apr 29 2014, 06:31 PM) Coma counter. Still go for growth meh?Poor earnings... growth... Small mid cap all lausai.. End of small cap stock era? |
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QUOTE(gark @ Apr 29 2014, 06:31 PM) Coma counter. On my bos geh radar Poor earnings... growth...  |
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hello! i'm really new with stock trading so may i ask if there any books that u recommend me to read? did u guys went for any seminar regarding stock exchange? i really wanna learn it so bad, but i dont really know where to start. ur respond is highly appreciated!
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QUOTE(spring onion @ Apr 29 2014, 07:47 PM) ok. i did take a while to digest this. high conversion means higher profit, because buyers buy in USD. i think way out from this statement liao. took so you long to reply my 3 line. paiseh paiseh. thanks No problem la.The same can be used for a company like AirAsia. We know for a fact that AirAsia borrowing is really big and the most crucial fact is that the borrowings are mostly in USD. So given the comparisons of where the USD are now versus last year, we know for a fact AirAsia will be hit by forex losses. Yes, AirAsia does hedge a portion (around 40% iinm) of its loans (last I recall reading, it hedged at 3.22) but that's enough. Borrowing costs will increase and the difference in the USD will translates to losses. |
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wow, V5 already?!!
Surprise that this thread still alive Have not been in the market for quite a long time already. just park my money in UZMA and TM, don't know what else to do. Heard some penny stocks did bungee jumping yesterday and monday. punters already pull out money for world cup meh? haha |
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QUOTE(ciahcra @ Apr 30 2014, 08:04 AM) wow, V5 already?!! LOL!Surprise that this thread still alive Have not been in the market for quite a long time already. just park my money in UZMA and TM, don't know what else to do. Heard some penny stocks did bungee jumping yesterday and monday. punters already pull out money for world cup meh? haha Apa macam bro? I am a psychopath stock forumer, don't you remeember? This thread only created yesterday. The penny stocks bungee happened Monday but you must understand what kind of utterly garbage penny stocks we are talking about. (Posted charts on post #2) Nah.. I copy and paste just for you again... Candidate one.. Candidate two.. Candidate three.. Candidate four.... Outsider ...... Now tell me.... what kind of rubbish stocks are these in the first place? Look at how they orchestrated the volumes! Doh! And now the media highlighting these stocks.... and what does it achieve? the perfect dumping ground!!! LOL! and next thing you know... yesterday... we get all the negative spillover effects.... |
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QUOTE(ciahcra @ Apr 30 2014, 08:04 AM) Heard some penny stocks did bungee jumping yesterday and monday. punters already pull out money for world cup meh? haha This was Monday's chart... Volume incredibly well orchestrated, right? Volume maintained consistently high.... err... left hand jual right hand ... right hand jual right leg... right leg jual left leg... left leg jual right left hand... lol now if we look at the left side of the chart...  or the zoom in are of the left side....  we can clearly see that VIS is a bloody TARAK laku stock.... then suddenly all the volume came in beautifully orchestrated.... now thanks to Monday's drama minggu ini plunge..... suddenly VIS became laku. from 20 sen to even 30 sen.... LOL! stock were sold at prices that weren't possible in 2013. what do they say about stock distribution again? are they distributed on the way up or down? |
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QUOTE(gloryhunter91 @ Apr 29 2014, 10:45 PM) hello! i'm really new with stock trading so may i ask if there any books that u recommend me to read? did u guys went for any seminar regarding stock exchange? i really wanna learn it so bad, but i dont really know where to start. ur respond is highly appreciated! how to trade in stocks by jesse livermoreQUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 30 2014, 07:58 AM) No problem la. surprising their financial report looks niceThe same can be used for a company like AirAsia. We know for a fact that AirAsia borrowing is really big and the most crucial fact is that the borrowings are mostly in USD. So given the comparisons of where the USD are now versus last year, we know for a fact AirAsia will be hit by forex losses. Yes, AirAsia does hedge a portion (around 40% iinm) of its loans (last I recall reading, it hedged at 3.22) but that's enough. Borrowing costs will increase and the difference in the USD will translates to losses. This post has been edited by spring onion: Apr 30 2014, 08:51 AM |
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lol vol looks consistent through out the whole period of sideways or uptrend....definitely single handed operated counters.
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QUOTE(ciahcra @ Apr 30 2014, 08:54 AM) lol vol looks consistent through out the whole period of sideways or uptrend....definitely single handed operated counters. Yup. Good job or what.... and then because of the plunge..... ... many of our punters.... somehow are programmed to think that fallen stocks means opportunity! little do they know... they are providing the perfect storm for the operator to REALLY start LOL! |
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Apr 30 2014, 09:00 AM
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QUOTE(spring onion @ Apr 30 2014, 08:50 AM) surprising their financial report looks nice huh?nice meh? are you sure? tell me, what's nice? |
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 30 2014, 08:58 AM) Yup. Good job or what. haha what opportunity? what change in the fundamental? got new contract? or venture into new business that has massive growth potential?... and then because of the plunge..... ... many of our punters.... somehow are programmed to think that fallen stocks means opportunity! little do they know... they are providing the perfect storm for the operator to REALLY start LOL! if none, don't bother. they probably going to push up a bit more, before finally dumping everything. haha |
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QUOTE(ciahcra @ Apr 30 2014, 09:03 AM) haha what opportunity? what change in the fundamental? got new contract? or venture into new business that has massive growth potential? Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh..... now VIS is up 10%!if none, don't bother. they probably going to push up a bit more, before finally dumping everything. haha LOL! LOL! LOL! This is why everyone love the stock markets! |
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 30 2014, 09:00 AM) huh? still showing profit. last time i looks at it it seems oknice meh? are you sure? tell me, what's nice? |
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QUOTE(spring onion @ Apr 30 2014, 09:09 AM) still showing profit. last time i looks at it it seems ok The profits came in or was helped by their high leverage strategy.But there's a massive price or massive risk by such strategy. It needs to keep borrowing forever. Debts are increasing forever. Last count? Their debts is now over 10 billion. |
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Apr 30 2014, 09:30 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 30 2014, 09:15 AM) The profits came in or was helped by their high leverage strategy. best is look at it is to look at the upcoming quarter reportBut there's a massive price or massive risk by such strategy. It needs to keep borrowing forever. Debts are increasing forever. Last count? Their debts is now over 10 billion. borrowings 9bil this year compared to 7bil last year... but their property, plant also increase as well |
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QUOTE(spring onion @ Apr 30 2014, 09:30 AM) best is look at it is to look at the upcoming quarter report Feb profit notes showed over 10 billion la.....borrowings 9bil this year compared to 7bil last year... but their property, plant also increase as well Property, plant sure to increase due to the purchase of aircraft (which is a diminishing asset).... it's caught in a financial whirlpool which is caused by the poor airline economics of business.... airlines need new aircrafts constantly. it's a must. who wants to fly in an old model aircraft? to buy the new aircraft... it needs to borrow like hell..... if you read the report notes... due to their big fei kei orders recently.... their borrowings can easily go over 50 billion in the future... and then what do you get in return? more competition (new budget airlines)..... and then.... your cost is actually increasing... new lcct means higher costs..... what about other costs? it's a lousy business to be in. |
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 30 2014, 09:44 AM) Feb profit notes showed over 10 billion la..... Most businesses are like that. How many really able to take it good profit?Property, plant sure to increase due to the purchase of aircraft (which is a diminishing asset).... it's caught in a financial whirlpool which is caused by the poor airline economics of business.... airlines need new aircrafts constantly. it's a must. who wants to fly in an old model aircraft? to buy the new aircraft... it needs to borrow like hell..... if you read the report notes... due to their big fei kei orders recently.... their borrowings can easily go over 50 billion in the future... and then what do you get in return? more competition (new budget airlines)..... and then.... your cost is actually increasing... new lcct means higher costs..... what about other costs? it's a lousy business to be in. |
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 30 2014, 09:44 AM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « i aware that iarasia order many airbus so what are they going to do with the old plane? and also means that we won;t be able to get cheap fares in future? |
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QUOTE(spring onion @ Apr 30 2014, 09:52 AM) ahhhh vechicle as asset is actually a bad asset you are worried about future cheap fares? i aware that iarasia order many airbus so what are they going to do with the old plane? and also means that we won;t be able to get cheap fares in future?thing I am very worried is.... one day in the future.... when AirAsia loans go over..... say 30 or 40 billion..... and AirAsia gets into trouble.... will the rakyat faced with a massive, massive .....rescue bill? |
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 30 2014, 10:04 AM) you are worried about future cheap fares? I don't think rescue would come into effect. It's not like Tune has a bloody good relationship with the government anyway. In fact, more times than not, they have been very vocal against the government. Worst case, khazanah comes in and buyout.thing I am very worried is.... one day in the future.... when AirAsia loans go over..... say 30 or 40 billion..... and AirAsia gets into trouble.... will the rakyat faced with a massive, massive .....rescue bill? It's MAS that you have to worry about |
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 30 2014, 10:04 AM) you are worried about future cheap fares? Why would the government help AirAsia? Seems like the government hates AirAsia, based on all the arguments over KLIA2.thing I am very worried is.... one day in the future.... when AirAsia loans go over..... say 30 or 40 billion..... and AirAsia gets into trouble.... will the rakyat faced with a massive, massive .....rescue bill? |
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 30 2014, 10:04 AM) you are worried about future cheap fares? MAS malaysian pride. airasia? mamak era gone since mahathir thing I am very worried is.... one day in the future.... when AirAsia loans go over..... say 30 or 40 billion..... and AirAsia gets into trouble.... will the rakyat faced with a massive, massive .....rescue bill? |
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QUOTE(wankongyew @ Apr 30 2014, 10:11 AM) Why would the government help AirAsia? Seems like the government hates AirAsia, based on all the arguments over KLIA2. We can hate ppl..but we cant hate the money...When problem.see how our Tony want to sell cheap valuation... khazanah only see business model and cheap valuation |
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QUOTE(jonchai @ Apr 30 2014, 10:10 AM) I don't think rescue would come into effect. It's not like Tune has a bloody good relationship with the government anyway. In fact, more times than not, they have been very vocal against the government. Worst case, khazanah comes in and buyout. MAS does not have such a spiraling debt issue as AirAsia.It's MAS that you have to worry about IINM AirAsia recent plane order is more than 50 billion ringgit. 50 billion ringgit. AirAsia currently have 1 billion + cash... Cash is decreasing each quarter..... not an issue? |
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QUOTE(wankongyew @ Apr 30 2014, 10:11 AM) Why would the government help AirAsia? Seems like the government hates AirAsia, based on all the arguments over KLIA2. I think you have a point there......however the other clear point from a business perspective.... it's quite clear that KLIA2 is not good for AirAsia since the new terminal will put a massive problem to AirAsia's supposedly low cost model.... |
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QUOTE(wankongyew @ Apr 30 2014, 10:11 AM) Why would the government help AirAsia? Seems like the government hates AirAsia, based on all the arguments over KLIA2. The government hates Tony, not AA. If AA is in trouble and needs to fire its staff, I won't be surprised if the government step in. After all, AA staff are voters too.AA is becoming too big to fail |
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QUOTE(TakoC @ Apr 29 2014, 08:19 PM) Still go for growth meh? Not all small cap lausai.. you need to see the difference. Small mid cap all lausai.. End of small cap stock era? Growth is good at anytime... had a debate before with pinky on this.. |
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QUOTE(gark @ Apr 30 2014, 11:47 AM) Not all small cap lausai.. you need to see the difference. so which small cap is not lausai....come2 give tips pls Growth is good at anytime... had a debate before with pinky on this.. |
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 30 2014, 10:17 AM) MAS does not have such a spiraling debt issue as AirAsia. Now purchasing plane model change already.. it is based on lease.. no one buys planes with cash anymore.IINM AirAsia recent plane order is more than 50 billion ringgit. 50 billion ringgit. AirAsia currently have 1 billion + cash... Cash is decreasing each quarter..... not an issue? Example.. Air Asia buy 1 plane for USD 300 million for example.. Air Asia does not hand the cheque to Airbus and take the plane. Instead Air Asia will 'lease' the plane for USD 300 million for 20 years for example, each year pay USD 15 mil in lease to Airbus. Technically the plane belong to Air Asia until expiry of lease when it will revert back to Airbus. Usually this is done with 0%-1% interest rate as incentive by airbus to sell more planes. As this is a long term lease, the asset is recorded and liabilities also but does not affect the actual cashflow. As long as profit generated per plane > lease payment per plane, they should be able to manage the cashflow. But then again... never buy anything with wings on 'em. This post has been edited by gark: Apr 30 2014, 12:02 PM |
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QUOTE(ciahcra @ Apr 30 2014, 11:52 AM) so which small cap is not lausai....come2 give tips pls Ask jonchai... |
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QUOTE(gark @ Apr 30 2014, 11:58 AM) Ask jonchai... Why day day also me? XingHe |
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QUOTE(gark @ Apr 30 2014, 11:58 AM) Now purchasing plane model change already.. it is based on lease.. no one buys planes with cash anymore. Interesting but it's still a rotten business to me. Example.. Air Asia buy 1 plane for USD 300 million for example.. Air Asia does not hand the cheque to Airbus and take the plane. Instead Air Asia will 'lease' the plane for USD 300 million for 20 years for example, each year pay USD 15 mil in lease to Airbus. Technically the plane belong to Air Asia until expiry of lease when it will revert back to Airbus. Usually this is done with 0%-1% interest rate as incentive by airbus to sell more planes. As this is a long term lease, the asset is recorded and liabilities also but does not affect the actual cashflow. As long as profit generated per plane > lease payment per plane, they should be able to manage the cashflow. But then again... never buy anything with wings on 'em. |
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QUOTE(jonchai @ Apr 30 2014, 12:09 PM) Why day day also me? XingHe |
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 30 2014, 12:13 PM) QUOTE Henan Xinghe Oil and Fat Co Ltd., is 91.15% owned by Supreme Global Group Ltd, a public company (linked to the Chinese government) which is majority controlled by Testa Holdings Ltd of China (wholly-owned company of Ms. Li Hui Jun, and Mr. Ma GuoLiang) Once completed in April 2014, Key West will become “Xinghe Holdings Bhd” and will also focus on producing palm oil for exportation to China Chinese groundnut oil production has been relatively unstable and peaked in 2002 at 2.4 million MTs. Since 2002, groundnut oil output has wavered between 1.8 and 2.2 million MTs per year. QUOTE SUPREME GLOBAL GROUP LIMITED also known as 廷譽集團有限公司 is a live business incorporated in Hong Kong on November 11, 2010. Their business is recorded as Local Company. It is not part of a group. The company has no filed accounts. The company was incorporated 4 years ago. This post has been edited by gark: Apr 30 2014, 12:27 PM |
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QUOTE(gark @ Apr 30 2014, 12:24 PM) Good investment |
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QUOTE(jonchai @ Apr 30 2014, 12:27 PM) Good investment |
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QUOTE(gark @ Apr 30 2014, 12:30 PM) Later another office bakar story.... Short sell now |
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QUOTE(gark @ Apr 30 2014, 11:58 AM) Now purchasing plane model change already.. it is based on lease.. no one buys planes with cash anymore. UNCLE GARK,Example.. Air Asia buy 1 plane for USD 300 million for example.. Air Asia does not hand the cheque to Airbus and take the plane. Instead Air Asia will 'lease' the plane for USD 300 million for 20 years for example, each year pay USD 15 mil in lease to Airbus. Technically the plane belong to Air Asia until expiry of lease when it will revert back to Airbus. Usually this is done with 0%-1% interest rate as incentive by airbus to sell more planes. As this is a long term lease, the asset is recorded and liabilities also but does not affect the actual cashflow. As long as profit generated per plane > lease payment per plane, they should be able to manage the cashflow. But then again... never buy anything with wings on 'em. You also Wings stock analysis.... » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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QUOTE(jonchai @ Apr 30 2014, 12:33 PM) Short sell now Later office bakar story with monkey trapped inside.. |
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QUOTE(gark @ Apr 30 2014, 12:34 PM) Later office bakar story with monkey trapped inside.. Don't harm my monkey |
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QUOTE(gark @ Apr 30 2014, 11:58 AM) Now purchasing plane model change already.. it is based on lease.. no one buys planes with cash anymore. KFC got wings Example.. Air Asia buy 1 plane for USD 300 million for example.. Air Asia does not hand the cheque to Airbus and take the plane. Instead Air Asia will 'lease' the plane for USD 300 million for 20 years for example, each year pay USD 15 mil in lease to Airbus. Technically the plane belong to Air Asia until expiry of lease when it will revert back to Airbus. Usually this is done with 0%-1% interest rate as incentive by airbus to sell more planes. As this is a long term lease, the asset is recorded and liabilities also but does not affect the actual cashflow. As long as profit generated per plane > lease payment per plane, they should be able to manage the cashflow. But then again... never buy anything with wings on 'em. |
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QUOTE(gark @ Apr 30 2014, 11:58 AM) Now purchasing plane model change already.. it is based on lease.. no one buys planes with cash anymore. I just see again..Example.. Air Asia buy 1 plane for USD 300 million for example.. Air Asia does not hand the cheque to Airbus and take the plane. Instead Air Asia will 'lease' the plane for USD 300 million for 20 years for example, each year pay USD 15 mil in lease to Airbus. Technically the plane belong to Air Asia until expiry of lease when it will revert back to Airbus. Usually this is done with 0%-1% interest rate as incentive by airbus to sell more planes. As this is a long term lease, the asset is recorded and liabilities also but does not affect the actual cashflow. As long as profit generated per plane > lease payment per plane, they should be able to manage the cashflow. But then again... never buy anything with wings on 'em. Financial cost for recent fiscal year is 432 million. |
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QUOTE(gark @ Apr 30 2014, 11:58 AM) Now purchasing plane model change already.. it is based on lease.. no one buys planes with cash anymore. One of the way to hide debt also Example.. Air Asia buy 1 plane for USD 300 million for example.. Air Asia does not hand the cheque to Airbus and take the plane. Instead Air Asia will 'lease' the plane for USD 300 million for 20 years for example, each year pay USD 15 mil in lease to Airbus. Technically the plane belong to Air Asia until expiry of lease when it will revert back to Airbus. Usually this is done with 0%-1% interest rate as incentive by airbus to sell more planes. As this is a long term lease, the asset is recorded and liabilities also but does not affect the actual cashflow. As long as profit generated per plane > lease payment per plane, they should be able to manage the cashflow. But then again... never buy anything with wings on 'em. |
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Apr 30 2014, 02:46 PM
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jerrychoo2004 you fatt tatt loh... buy homer yday at 0.75
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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ Apr 30 2014, 02:46 PM) jerrychoo2004 you fatt tatt loh... buy homer yday at 0.75 Why you so happy? Hehe |
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 30 2014, 03:00 PM) Why you so happy? Hehe |
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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ Apr 30 2014, 03:00 PM) Nolah i sad, coz didn't do the same I no fatt tatt also... This post has been edited by gark: Apr 30 2014, 03:06 PM |
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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ Apr 30 2014, 02:46 PM) jerrychoo2004 you fatt tatt loh... buy homer yday at 0.75 yalor, at about 3pm, i quene at 0.775 also tak dapat. |
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QUOTE(gark @ Apr 30 2014, 03:05 PM) I no fatt tatt also... Here no 5 year olds leh |
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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ Apr 30 2014, 03:17 PM) Here no 5 year olds leh ok, here got how many 7 year olds then? |
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lamb jie jie want me belanja minum coffee?
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 30 2014, 03:31 PM) ok, here got how many 7 year olds then? |
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walao ... halo everyone
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halo ktl.....goreng anything today??
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I was wondering, being an amateur here
how often those the situation like ytday happen? maybe we can start aiming certain counters and wait for that to happen before we make our investment? |
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QUOTE(jerrychoo2004 @ Apr 30 2014, 04:21 PM) halo ktl.....goreng anything today?? u mean let ppl goreng anything today??? |
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Another china share cannot issue audited report...change auditor when another resign, another one to fall?
QUOTE "The Board of Directors of HB wishes to announce that the issuance of AFS 2013 will be delayed as Messrs. UHY Lee Seng Chan & Co., the new external auditors of the Company was just appointed on 21 April 2014 and the audit is currently still in progress. The Company wishes to provide more time for the external auditors to complete the AFS 2013 and is working closely with the external auditors to finalise the audit expeditiously. The Company expects to submit its AFS 2013 on or before 30 June 2014." QUOTE "4) BDO also highlighted that they were unable to carry out the stock count for inventory balance as at 30 June 2013. The carrying amounts of the frozen food items at the old warehouse were approximately RMB 81 million representing 79% of the total inventories as at 30 June 2013. This was because the frozen food items were not properly arranged as well as the entrance to the old warehouse were not easily accessible; alternatively, BDO had checked the goods stock in notes, suppliers invoices, finished goods received notes, monthly production reports, goods stock out notes and sales invoices to determine reasonableness of inventories balance as at 31 December 2012 with no exception noted." QUOTE The auditor was able to reconcile the cash balance, trade receivables and trade payables contrary to Paul Wan &Co disclaimer of opinion." QUOTE "In view of the findings by BDO, the management is seeking legal advice with the legal counsel on appropriate action to be taken against the previous auditor." First auditor Paul Wan & Co says cannot reconcile cash, recieveable and payable amount. Then HB Global appoint 2nd Auditor BDO suddenly can reconcile and sued first auditor Then BDO also suddenly resigned just before financial report dateline and now they have appoint 3rd auditor UHY... Whoever buy this kind of shares deserve first class ticket to Holland... This post has been edited by gark: Apr 30 2014, 05:03 PM |
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QUOTE(gark @ Apr 30 2014, 04:55 PM) Another china share cannot issue audited report...change auditor when another resign, another one to fall? Not exactly new.Last year already got problem. If not mistaken its auditor said it cannot confirm bank balance of its subsidiary company. shhhhh..... you post so much nanti who buy the china man stocks? |
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 30 2014, 05:03 PM) Not exactly new. Gark know where they store the cash'sie...Last year already got problem. If not mistaken its auditor said it cannot confirm bank balance of its subsidiary company. shhhhh..... you post so much nanti who buy the china man stocks? |
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 30 2014, 05:03 PM) shhhhh..... you post so much nanti who buy the china man stocks? |
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Apr 30 2014, 05:05 PM) Gark know where they store the cash'sie... In cardboard boxes in the admin office... (just before setting fire) |
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KLCI banyak green leh... up 12points...
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No profit these few days, so damn cham...
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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ Apr 30 2014, 05:15 PM) No profit these few days, so damn cham... Still got grass to eat also not bad lar...Eat grass.. Wait till grass also die... ahahahahaha... |
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Apr 30 2014, 05:16 PM) Still got grass to eat also not bad lar... Walaueh... so hak sum wey... Wait till grass also die... ahahahahaha...  |
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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ Apr 30 2014, 05:18 PM) Walaueh... so hak sum wey... Aiya, dont be too greedy la. Everyone also wish to earn money from KLSE nowadays. You can see all kinds of people talking about shares, properties etc. Its a tell tale sign. Businesses have been slow for 1month++ now, even I that normally dont have time for shares also have too much time to monitor shares. |
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Apr 30 2014, 05:25 PM) Aiya, dont be too greedy la. Everyone also wish to earn money from KLSE nowadays. You can see all kinds of people talking about shares, properties etc. Its a tell tale sign. Businesses have been slow for 1month++ now, even I that normally dont have time for shares also have too much time to monitor shares. Ah boon often say, greed is good This quarter i notice quite alot of companies reporting good results Maybe next quarter gotta watch out abit more. |
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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ Apr 30 2014, 05:30 PM) Ah boon often say, greed is good Help u summon Boon3. This quarter i notice quite alot of companies reporting good results Maybe next quarter gotta watch out abit more. Job's done |
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QUOTE(jonchai @ Apr 30 2014, 05:40 PM) Help u summon Boon3. Summon me for what?Job's done Beat less ah? |
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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ Apr 30 2014, 05:30 PM) This quarter i notice quite alot of companies reporting good results Maybe next quarter gotta watch out abit more. good... 1 LPI 2 TAGB 3 ESCERAM 4 ICAP 5 AEONC4 6 CMMT 7 BURSA 8 ACOSTEC 9 PBBANK 10 CEPAT 11 SWSCAP 12 BRIGHT 13 GUOCO 14 AXREIT 15 REDTONE 16 CVIEW 17 TAS 18 CCB 19 CHINTEK 20 AIRPORT 21 BAT 22 TENAGA 23 PANTECH 24 PAVREIT 25 ATRIUM 26 GADANG 27 HOHUP 28 DIGI 29 EUPE 30 AJIYA 31 RVIEW 32 HLIND 33 TAMBUN 34 DNONCE 35 TIMWELL 36 UTDPLT 37 HOMERIZ 38 EUROSP 39 TASEK 40 SPRITZR 41 MELATI 42 PENSONI 43 GTRONIC 44 PWROOT 45 ATLAN 46 TEXCHEM 47 SUNREIT 48 MPI 49 NARRA 50 ECOFIRS 51 CYBERT 52 IGBREIT 53 ANCOM 54 WILLOW 55 AT 56 NYLEX 57 MHC 58 ANCOMLB Lousy 1 ZHULIAN 2 NESTLE 3 WINGTM 4 TRIPLC 5 GWPLAST 6 MARCO 7 MALPAC 8 PENTA 9 POLY 10 SAUDEE 11 KAF 12 BSLCORP 13 UTOPIA 14 PLB 15 AMTEL 16 PAOS 17 SLP 18 FIBON 19 TWRREIT 20 TMCLIFE 21 CEPCO 22 NWP 23 SSTEEL 24 SUIWAH 25 EPMB 26 YFG |
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ May 1 2014, 11:38 AM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ May 1 2014, 11:38 AM) Nah... here's the list.... Any chance of Zhulian rebound two years down the road?good... 1 LPI 2 TAGB 3 ESCERAM 4 ICAP 5 AEONC4 6 CMMT 7 BURSA 8 ACOSTEC 9 PBBANK 10 CEPAT 11 SWSCAP 12 BRIGHT 13 GUOCO 14 AXREIT 15 REDTONE 16 CVIEW 17 TAS 18 CCB 19 CHINTEK 20 AIRPORT 21 BAT 22 TENAGA 23 PANTECH 24 PAVREIT 25 ATRIUM 26 GADANG 27 HOHUP 28 DIGI 29 EUPE 30 AJIYA 31 RVIEW 32 HLIND 33 TAMBUN 34 DNONCE 35 TIMWELL 36 UTDPLT 37 HOMERIZ 38 EUROSP 39 TASEK 40 SPRITZR 41 MELATI 42 PENSONI 43 GTRONIC 44 PWROOT 45 ATLAN 46 TEXCHEM 47 SUNREIT 48 MPI 49 NARRA 50 ECOFIRS 51 CYBERT 52 IGBREIT 53 ANCOM 54 WILLOW 55 AT 56 NYLEX 57 MHC 58 ANCOMLB Lousy 1 ZHULIAN 2 NESTLE 3 WINGTM 4 TRIPLC 5 GWPLAST 6 MARCO 7 MALPAC 8 PENTA 9 POLY 10 SAUDEE 11 KAF 12 BSLCORP 13 UTOPIA 14 PLB 15 AMTEL 16 PAOS 17 SLP 18 FIBON 19 TWRREIT 20 TMCLIFE 21 CEPCO 22 NWP 23 SSTEEL 24 SUIWAH 25 EPMB 26 YFG |
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QUOTE(spring onion @ May 1 2014, 02:20 PM) woah tips from boon kor. |
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QUOTE(jonchai @ May 1 2014, 02:26 PM) Any chance of Zhulian rebound two years down the road? I dunno.... |
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ May 1 2014, 11:38 AM) Nah... here's the list.... tabik you. so comprehensive overall good quarter for most.... next quarter, MUST throw first before all announce bad results |
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ May 1 2014, 02:41 PM) I dunno.... |
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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ May 1 2014, 02:47 PM) tabik you. so comprehensive which 'next quarter' are you mentioning, there is many reports will come out in may. are you mentioning about the august 1? overall good quarter for most.... next quarter, MUST throw first before all announce bad results This post has been edited by spring onion: May 1 2014, 02:57 PM |
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QUOTE(spring onion @ May 1 2014, 02:49 PM) which 'next quarter' are you mentioning, there is many reports will come out in may. are you mentioning about the august 1? Yeah august. But anyway ignore what i just said. i lose alot of money usually wan |
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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ May 1 2014, 02:59 PM) Yeah august. But anyway ignore what i just said. i lose alot of money usually wan Ya, but win a lot more in the process |
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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ May 1 2014, 02:47 PM) next quarter, MUST throw first before all announce bad results Not an easy game strategy. Besides the requirement of an ability to read financial results fairly accurately.... you need to anticipate the market reactions towards the results..... it's more of a make or break play..... requires tons of balls of steel.................. |
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Another horse(Latitude) will announce it Q report this month. Ini horse earning very unstable one.Hope he don play play with me.hahaha
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You guys don't wanna try TH Heavy Engineering. So far I've made 18 cents of profits per share
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ May 1 2014, 07:39 PM) So what's your thinking on this? jonchaiConsider this... Any chance of vs Any chance of company B's business, which is growing consistently NOW, continue to grow for another 2 years down the road? Which sounds better? |
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morning Boon
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ May 1 2014, 11:38 AM) Nah... here's the list.... May i know why PLB is consider lausy? this 2 month increase a lotgood... 1 LPI 2 TAGB 3 ESCERAM 4 ICAP 5 AEONC4 6 CMMT 7 BURSA 8 ACOSTEC 9 PBBANK 10 CEPAT 11 SWSCAP 12 BRIGHT 13 GUOCO 14 AXREIT 15 REDTONE 16 CVIEW 17 TAS 18 CCB 19 CHINTEK 20 AIRPORT 21 BAT 22 TENAGA 23 PANTECH 24 PAVREIT 25 ATRIUM 26 GADANG 27 HOHUP 28 DIGI 29 EUPE 30 AJIYA 31 RVIEW 32 HLIND 33 TAMBUN 34 DNONCE 35 TIMWELL 36 UTDPLT 37 HOMERIZ 38 EUROSP 39 TASEK 40 SPRITZR 41 MELATI 42 PENSONI 43 GTRONIC 44 PWROOT 45 ATLAN 46 TEXCHEM 47 SUNREIT 48 MPI 49 NARRA 50 ECOFIRS 51 CYBERT 52 IGBREIT 53 ANCOM 54 WILLOW 55 AT 56 NYLEX 57 MHC 58 ANCOMLB Lousy 1 ZHULIAN 2 NESTLE 3 WINGTM 4 TRIPLC 5 GWPLAST 6 MARCO 7 MALPAC 8 PENTA 9 POLY 10 SAUDEE 11 KAF 12 BSLCORP 13 UTOPIA 14 PLB 15 AMTEL 16 PAOS 17 SLP 18 FIBON 19 TWRREIT 20 TMCLIFE 21 CEPCO 22 NWP 23 SSTEEL 24 SUIWAH 25 EPMB 26 YFG |
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QUOTE(felixmask @ May 2 2014, 06:32 AM) morning Boon morning. |
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QUOTE(tstan8_8 @ May 2 2014, 08:51 AM) May i know why PLB is consider lausy? this 2 month increase a lot Please read and re-read again why the list was posted and what exactly the list is all about. |
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QUOTE(tstan8_8 @ May 2 2014, 08:51 AM) May i know why PLB is consider lausy? this 2 month increase a lot It's lousy FINANCIAL RESULTS not lousy stock performance |
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Latitude new high
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ May 2 2014, 06:19 AM) jonchai Well, my thinking is like this. Company B's share price, given its consistent record, would already be sky high. While it looks tempting, it may not be very rewarding.Consider this... Any chance of vs Any chance of company B's business, which is growing consistently NOW, continue to grow for another 2 years down the road? Which sounds better? X is now at its all time low. Should it rebound, of course, must be based on their FA la, then it would be a lot more rewarding as the stock price catches up. |
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ May 2 2014, 09:21 AM) Please read and re-read again why the list was posted and what exactly the list is all about. will read it. |
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IRIS, macam boleh
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Penny stock all very silent lately.. sudah kena yellow card.
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ May 2 2014, 10:16 AM) Penny stock all very silent lately.. sudah kena yellow card. No volume today, friday d, weekend mode. |
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QUOTE(jonchai @ May 2 2014, 09:54 AM) Well, my thinking is like this. Company B's share price, given its consistent record, would already be sky high. While it looks tempting, it may not be very rewarding. The share price always complicate simple things, ya? X is now at its all time low. Should it rebound, of course, must be based on their FA la, then it would be a lot more rewarding as the stock price catches up. I understand what you are saying for company B. Yes, it's possible, that given the current bull market, the share price could be sky high. But isn't this what share investing is all about? You cannot simply buy any good company at any given price! Buying price is everything! Company X is all time low. But how sure are we with that statement? I am sure you was tempted cos you saw some q-q improvement in profits... BUT the y-y comparison showed that profits dropped 42%!! Also, you probably was tempted by the previous highest price recorded by X. Yup, you compare the high then and you compare the price now... and obviously, it look as if the price dropped a lot. However, this is one thing you need to to differentiate and realise. When X price was shooting, the market gave it a very high rating based on growth. When a growth stock ceases to be a growth stock, that stock can really tumble one........ Last time I was asked to study semi-con stocks. Focus on stocks on MPI. During the dot com area, MPI was trading around 60 bucks. Valuation actually wasn't even expensive. It paid good dividends... balance sheet showed millions of cash no loans... belonged to a very rich, successful tycoon... it even got share buyback... what could go wrong? when the growth stopped.... everything came crashing down..... it's more than 20 years already.... the company and the stock never did recover..... of course X and MPI not the same. if the business recover, of course the stock could recover..... but why want to bet on it now? sometimes in stock market, the early bird strategy... carries much more risk. As it is, the stock price is pricey.... certainly doesn't deserve current price based on its current profits..... |
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May 2 2014, 11:26 AM
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Inari.. back on track
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May 2 2014, 12:52 PM
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QUOTE(gark @ May 2 2014, 11:26 AM) Inari.. back on track right after you made the first comment. Edit : collapse back.. |
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May 2 2014, 01:06 PM
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QUOTE(gark @ May 2 2014, 11:26 AM) Inari.. back on track unker, don comment when its good, curse of the commentator Edit : collapse back.. |
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May 2 2014, 01:18 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ May 2 2014, 10:25 AM) The share price always complicate simple things, ya? Good share. Thanks Boon3 I understand what you are saying for company B. Yes, it's possible, that given the current bull market, the share price could be sky high. But isn't this what share investing is all about? You cannot simply buy any good company at any given price! Buying price is everything! Company X is all time low. But how sure are we with that statement? I am sure you was tempted cos you saw some q-q improvement in profits... BUT the y-y comparison showed that profits dropped 42%!! Also, you probably was tempted by the previous highest price recorded by X. Yup, you compare the high then and you compare the price now... and obviously, it look as if the price dropped a lot. However, this is one thing you need to to differentiate and realise. When X price was shooting, the market gave it a very high rating based on growth. When a growth stock ceases to be a growth stock, that stock can really tumble one........ Last time I was asked to study semi-con stocks. Focus on stocks on MPI. During the dot com area, MPI was trading around 60 bucks. Valuation actually wasn't even expensive. It paid good dividends... balance sheet showed millions of cash no loans... belonged to a very rich, successful tycoon... it even got share buyback... what could go wrong? when the growth stopped.... everything came crashing down..... it's more than 20 years already.... the company and the stock never did recover..... of course X and MPI not the same. if the business recover, of course the stock could recover..... but why want to bet on it now? sometimes in stock market, the early bird strategy... carries much more risk. As it is, the stock price is pricey.... certainly doesn't deserve current price based on its current profits.....  |
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May 2 2014, 01:18 PM
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QUOTE(gark @ May 2 2014, 11:26 AM) Inari.. back on track AhBoon warned not to GO GO GO liao... thats why tio curse.Edit : collapse back.. Same for YTL... Was hoping for showtime but collapse jor. |
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May 2 2014, 01:27 PM
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ May 2 2014, 01:18 PM) AhBoon warned not to GO GO GO liao... thats why tio curse. So is HoHup. Surprisingly, my Genting go go go Same for YTL... Was hoping for showtime but collapse jor. |
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May 2 2014, 01:29 PM
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ May 2 2014, 01:18 PM) AhBoon warned not to GO GO GO liao... thats why tio curse. anything good about YTL lately?Same for YTL... Was hoping for showtime but collapse jor. |
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May 2 2014, 01:36 PM
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QUOTE(spring onion @ May 2 2014, 01:29 PM) anything good about YTL lately? New project launches. Mid Fields 2 sold out in 4 days ... 800+ units |
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May 2 2014, 01:37 PM
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QUOTE(jonchai @ May 2 2014, 01:36 PM) New project launches. Mid Fields 2 sold out in 4 days ... 800+ units haha biar betulbro. its YTLland then, what got to do with YTL? besides YTL own a portion of it? This post has been edited by spring onion: May 2 2014, 01:38 PM |
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May 2 2014, 01:39 PM
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QUOTE(spring onion @ May 2 2014, 01:37 PM) haha biar betul When the son goes up, mother would follow? bro. its YTLland then, what got to do with YTL? besides YTL own a portion of it? |
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May 2 2014, 01:40 PM
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QUOTE(jonchai @ May 2 2014, 01:39 PM) When the son goes up, mother would follow? YTL has already have so many cash on hands. and where does the profit of YTL goes to? FD |
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May 2 2014, 01:42 PM
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QUOTE(spring onion @ May 2 2014, 01:40 PM) YTL has already have so many cash on hands. and where does the profit of YTL goes to? FD Damn, I wanted to grab 1 unit that day. Super long queue on Saturday .... FuuuuhhhhI ended up going to another development |
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May 2 2014, 01:56 PM
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QUOTE(jonchai @ May 2 2014, 01:42 PM) Damn, I wanted to grab 1 unit that day. Super long queue on Saturday .... Fuuuuhhhh fuhh means you are bought a new house near salak south? midfields2 selling for frm 500k. looks ok to me although its leasehold. i just dont have the money to buy I ended up going to another development so did you ended up buying 1? |
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May 2 2014, 02:11 PM
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QUOTE(spring onion @ May 2 2014, 01:56 PM) fuhh means you are bought a new house near salak south? midfields2 selling for frm 500k. looks ok to me although its leasehold. i just dont have the money to buy I didn't get to buy mid fields 2. Too long queue. Waited 2 hours, still got about 80 in front of me. So screwed that, I left. Ended up buying somewhere else. so did you ended up buying 1? |
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May 2 2014, 02:18 PM
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QUOTE(jonchai @ May 2 2014, 02:11 PM) I didn't get to buy mid fields 2. Too long queue. Waited 2 hours, still got about 80 in front of me. So screwed that, I left. Ended up buying somewhere else. congratz on your new houseme stil have to wait at least 7-10 years, depending where does stocks bring me |
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May 2 2014, 02:54 PM
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QUOTE(spring onion @ May 2 2014, 01:29 PM) anything good about YTL lately? LoLI don't know. It was cheap. Don't ask me FA. I don't do FA on blue chips. Wasting time. |
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May 2 2014, 02:55 PM
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QUOTE(jonchai @ May 2 2014, 02:11 PM) I didn't get to buy mid fields 2. Too long queue. Waited 2 hours, still got about 80 in front of me. So screwed that, I left. Ended up buying somewhere else. I thought you sell house? Now become buyer? |
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May 2 2014, 03:06 PM
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Latitude crazy liao.....
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May 2 2014, 03:13 PM
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afternoon all..,
another boring day all portfolio coma |
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May 2 2014, 03:14 PM
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ May 2 2014, 02:55 PM) I thought you sell house? Now become buyer? I sell commercial units. I buy house |
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May 2 2014, 03:15 PM
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QUOTE(jonchai @ May 2 2014, 03:14 PM) I sell commercial units. I buy house Buy so many house for what? Keep concubines ah? |
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May 2 2014, 03:20 PM
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ May 2 2014, 03:15 PM) Buy so many house for what? Keep concubines ah? No wor, my first house |
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May 2 2014, 03:31 PM
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QUOTE(jonchai @ May 2 2014, 02:11 PM) I didn't get to buy mid fields 2. Too long queue. Waited 2 hours, still got about 80 in front of me. So screwed that, I left. Ended up buying somewhere else. MidField2 only lauching last month....Mind to share where you buy,.This post has been edited by felixmask: May 2 2014, 03:32 PM |
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May 2 2014, 03:35 PM
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QUOTE(felixmask @ May 2 2014, 03:31 PM) MidField2 only lauching last month....Mind to share where you buy,. Nearby there. New development by Gadang |
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May 2 2014, 03:53 PM
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QUOTE(jonchai @ May 2 2014, 03:35 PM) Nearby there. New development by Gadang How the take up the Vyne ?Gadang can made money , then you made money before GADANG shoot up |
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May 2 2014, 03:54 PM
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QUOTE(felixmask @ May 2 2014, 03:53 PM) How the take up the Vyne ? How the Vyne unit take up like MIDFEILD 80% solf off ??Gadang can made money , then you made money before GADANG shoot upGot buy GADANG ? |
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May 2 2014, 03:58 PM
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QUOTE(felixmask @ May 2 2014, 03:54 PM) How the Vyne unit take up like MIDFEILD 80% solf off ?? No buy. No more money. All stuck with my existing portfolio Got buy GADANG ? No buy their shares, buy their house lo |
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May 2 2014, 04:05 PM
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QUOTE(jonchai @ May 2 2014, 03:58 PM) No buy. No more money. All stuck with my existing portfolio Alot new condo lauuching at several location... No buy their shares, buy their house lo Most the launching has Luxury Condo..all above rm450K easiy, Not sure those Gadang can sucessful like MidField....you give us update..of Gadang Potential |
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May 2 2014, 04:06 PM
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Oooh let it go, let it goooo
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May 2 2014, 04:10 PM
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QUOTE(felixmask @ May 2 2014, 04:05 PM) Alot new condo lauuching at several location... Well, don't really wanna care about it anymore. It's not really for investment anyway. Gonna stay there, most likely. So doesn't matter whether it goes up or down in the short term Most the launching has Luxury Condo..all above rm450K easiy, Not sure those Gadang can sucessful like MidField....you give us update..of Gadang Potential |
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May 2 2014, 04:43 PM
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Waseh Latitud.Don goreng until hangus leh.....
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May 2 2014, 05:02 PM
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QUOTE(wenqing @ May 2 2014, 04:43 PM) Waseh Latitud.Don goreng until hangus leh.....  , you can go eat abalone today |
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May 2 2014, 05:06 PM
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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ May 2 2014, 05:02 PM) , you can go eat abalone today Homeritz need wait a while more.Last time goreng too aggressive liao. Ur patient will be paid off. |
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May 2 2014, 07:30 PM
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QUOTE(wenqing @ May 2 2014, 05:06 PM) aiyo. win money or lose money I also eat same thing de lah. abalone abalone abalone Homeritz need wait a while more.Last time goreng too aggressive liao. Ur patient will be paid off. I thinking to add more homer This post has been edited by foofoosasa: May 2 2014, 07:30 PM |
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May 2 2014, 09:03 PM
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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ May 2 2014, 07:30 PM) abalone abalone abalone I think u addicted to abalone already. hahaha I thinking to add more homer KFC will be sad to know u don like his food anymore |
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May 3 2014, 02:40 PM
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finish reading how to trade in stocks by jesse livermore. anymore books u guys can recommend?
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May 3 2014, 11:58 PM
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kueyteowlou eh very rare to see you in a football thread!
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May 4 2014, 12:27 AM
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QUOTE(hehe86 @ May 3 2014, 11:58 PM) kueyteowlou eh very rare to see you in a football thread! lol ... because i was betting that stupid MU ...give 1.5 .... damn .... bookie win all ... lucky i cover back my losses from eating balls ... alot kakis bet MU .... now give 0.75 Manchester city  |
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May 4 2014, 12:38 AM
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ May 4 2014, 12:27 AM) lol ... because i was betting that stupid MU ... I only bet some for World Cup because it's once in 4 years.give 1.5 .... damn .... bookie win all ... lucky i cover back my losses from eating balls ... alot kakis bet MU .... now give 0.75 Manchester city I never bet in BPL cause bookie runs the show. You are more likely to lose than win. |
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May 4 2014, 12:46 AM
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ May 4 2014, 12:38 AM) I only bet some for World Cup because it's once in 4 years. if you watch football ... it is like operator's mindset ..... I never bet in BPL cause bookie runs the show. You are more likely to lose than win. you learn how to operate stocks by watching football lol |
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May 4 2014, 12:50 AM
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ May 4 2014, 12:46 AM) if you watch football ... it is like operator's mindset ..... BPL is too hard to guess. you learn how to operate stocks by watching football lol World Cup is much easier. Find it much easier to win World Cup bets than BPL. |
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May 4 2014, 12:37 PM
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QUOTE(gloryhunter91 @ May 3 2014, 02:40 PM) finish reading how to trade in stocks by jesse livermore. anymore books u guys can recommend? So many books available on stock market investing. All depending on your interest and objectives. Whether you want to be trader, long term investor, dividend investor etc.Stock market investing is continuous learning. The most important is too open your trading/cds account, select your first stock and actually buying it. |
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May 4 2014, 06:33 PM
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QUOTE(gloryhunter91 @ May 3 2014, 02:40 PM) finish reading how to trade in stocks by jesse livermore. anymore books u guys can recommend? The 555-Book Trading Methodology by Boon3(with free gift: 1 555-book) Why Not To Buy A Stock by Boon3 (with free gift: booklet of Charts and Diagrams) My 3 Secrrets Of Stock Trading by Boon3 (very very limited edition - only 1 copy may exist as no one has managed to read it) Plant The Stock, Value The Growth, Grow The Value by gark Minimum Four Digit Gains by gark The Best Of Divident Investing by Pink Spider (with free gift: 1 pack ciggy) Temptation Of KFC Trading by foofoosasa Stocks - Stirred Fried Or Slow Cooked by kueyteowlou (with free gift: 1 kg oil) The Strategy Of Switching Stocks by MrLoo (may no longer be in publication) Stock Trading - Sweat And Tears by LambethWalk (with free gift: 1 box tissues) Why Select Stocks, Just Buy Everything by jerrychoo2004 Size (Of Shares Issued )Does Not Matter by jonchai More can be found at LYN forum.... |
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May 4 2014, 06:44 PM
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QUOTE(lynetnonyma @ May 4 2014, 06:33 PM) The 555-Book Trading Methodology by Boon3 (with free gift: 1 555-book) Why Not To Buy A Stock by Boon3 (with free gift: booklet of Charts and Diagrams) My 3 Secrrets Of Stock Trading by Boon3 (very very limited edition - only 1 copy may exist as no one has managed to read it) Plant The Stock, Value The Growth, Grow The Value by gark Minimum Four Digit Gains by gark The Best Of Divident Investing by Pink Spider (with free gift: 1 pack ciggy) Temptation Of KFC Trading by foofoosasa Stocks - Stirred Fried Or Slow Cooked by kueyteowlou (with free gift: 1 kg oil) The Strategy Of Switching Stocks by MrLoo (may no longer be in publication) Stock Trading - Sweat And Tears by LambethWalk (with free gift: 1 box tissues) Why Select Stocks, Just Buy Everything by jerrychoo2004 Size (Of Shares Issued )Does Not Matter by jonchai More can be found at LYN forum....  |
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May 4 2014, 09:06 PM
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QUOTE(lynetnonyma @ May 4 2014, 06:33 PM) The 555-Book Trading Methodology by Boon3 Do we have 金马奖 award for LYN?(with free gift: 1 555-book) Why Not To Buy A Stock by Boon3 (with free gift: booklet of Charts and Diagrams) My 3 Secrrets Of Stock Trading by Boon3 (very very limited edition - only 1 copy may exist as no one has managed to read it) Plant The Stock, Value The Growth, Grow The Value by gark Minimum Four Digit Gains by gark The Best Of Divident Investing by Pink Spider (with free gift: 1 pack ciggy) Temptation Of KFC Trading by foofoosasa Stocks - Stirred Fried Or Slow Cooked by kueyteowlou (with free gift: 1 kg oil) The Strategy Of Switching Stocks by MrLoo (may no longer be in publication) Stock Trading - Sweat And Tears by LambethWalk (with free gift: 1 box tissues) Why Select Stocks, Just Buy Everything by jerrychoo2004 Size (Of Shares Issued )Does Not Matter by jonchai More can be found at LYN forum.... You truly deserved it. |
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May 5 2014, 09:13 AM
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ May 4 2014, 09:06 PM) Do we have 金马奖 award for LYN? he or she will be the host. You truly deserved it. |
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May 5 2014, 10:02 AM
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Why today no people say oppurtunity?
Homer 0.77 again... |
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May 5 2014, 10:35 AM
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ May 5 2014, 10:02 AM) Why today no people say oppurtunity? maybe many cut loss and run away already Homer 0.77 again... |
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May 5 2014, 11:26 AM
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QUOTE(lynetnonyma @ May 4 2014, 06:33 PM) The 555-Book Trading Methodology by Boon3 Wah, I'm in also (with free gift: 1 555-book) Why Not To Buy A Stock by Boon3 (with free gift: booklet of Charts and Diagrams) My 3 Secrrets Of Stock Trading by Boon3 (very very limited edition - only 1 copy may exist as no one has managed to read it) Plant The Stock, Value The Growth, Grow The Value by gark Minimum Four Digit Gains by gark The Best Of Divident Investing by Pink Spider (with free gift: 1 pack ciggy) Temptation Of KFC Trading by foofoosasa Stocks - Stirred Fried Or Slow Cooked by kueyteowlou (with free gift: 1 kg oil) The Strategy Of Switching Stocks by MrLoo (may no longer be in publication) Stock Trading - Sweat And Tears by LambethWalk (with free gift: 1 box tissues) Why Select Stocks, Just Buy Everything by jerrychoo2004 Size (Of Shares Issued )Does Not Matter by jonchai More can be found at LYN forum.... |
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May 5 2014, 12:08 PM
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dont get carried away in the market...
we dont know when is bottom... |
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May 5 2014, 12:17 PM
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ May 5 2014, 10:02 AM) Why today no people say oppurtunity? LOL. why you no say many people have bought when it was 0.8x???Homer 0.77 again... |
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May 5 2014, 12:21 PM
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ May 5 2014, 12:08 PM) dont get carried away in the market... but the temptation is very strongwe dont know when is bottom... |
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May 5 2014, 01:09 PM
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Queued for more HOMERIZ at 0.76 today and was surprised to see that I had gotten it.
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May 5 2014, 01:56 PM
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bought 0.83--''
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May 5 2014, 02:19 PM
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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ May 5 2014, 10:35 AM) maybe many cut loss and run away already I'm still holding Average cost 0.808 This post has been edited by Pink Spider: May 5 2014, 02:19 PM |
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May 5 2014, 02:37 PM
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ May 5 2014, 02:19 PM) I'm still holding no add more ? Average cost 0.808 |
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May 5 2014, 02:40 PM
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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ May 5 2014, 02:37 PM) no add more ? Going for conservative stance, queuing for IGBREIT now. |
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May 5 2014, 02:47 PM
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ May 5 2014, 02:40 PM) Going for conservative stance, queuing for IGBREIT now. , last time tell u buy, you said too many reits. Thought you aim @ 1.10 |
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May 5 2014, 02:49 PM
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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ May 5 2014, 02:47 PM) , last time tell u buy, you said too many reits. Thought you aim @ 1.10 now wanna focus on generating passive income |
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May 5 2014, 02:53 PM
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ May 5 2014, 02:49 PM) buying car this week wow buy car.....audi or bmw or merc?now wanna focus on generating passive income |
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May 5 2014, 02:57 PM
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ May 5 2014, 02:49 PM) buying car this week now wanna focus on generating passive income QUOTE(jerrychoo2004 @ May 5 2014, 02:53 PM) wow buy car.....audi or bmw or merc? maybe ferrari |
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ May 5 2014, 02:49 PM) buying car this week world cup coming....now wanna focus on generating passive income bet your car... either upgrade or sell off ur car.... lol |
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May 5 2014, 03:03 PM
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Got my third batch homer @ 0.76
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May 5 2014, 03:07 PM
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QUOTE(lynetnonyma @ May 4 2014, 06:33 PM) The 555-Book Trading Methodology by Boon3 Haha..what is this... (with free gift: 1 555-book) Why Not To Buy A Stock by Boon3 (with free gift: booklet of Charts and Diagrams) My 3 Secrrets Of Stock Trading by Boon3 (very very limited edition - only 1 copy may exist as no one has managed to read it) Plant The Stock, Value The Growth, Grow The Value by gark Minimum Four Digit Gains by gark The Best Of Divident Investing by Pink Spider (with free gift: 1 pack ciggy) Temptation Of KFC Trading by foofoosasa Stocks - Stirred Fried Or Slow Cooked by kueyteowlou (with free gift: 1 kg oil) The Strategy Of Switching Stocks by MrLoo (may no longer be in publication) Stock Trading - Sweat And Tears by LambethWalk (with free gift: 1 box tissues) Why Select Stocks, Just Buy Everything by jerrychoo2004 Size (Of Shares Issued )Does Not Matter by jonchai More can be found at LYN forum.... Creative sangat |
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May 5 2014, 03:08 PM
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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ May 5 2014, 03:03 PM) Got my third batch homer @ 0.76 I'm greedy.. wanna wait for 0.75 Dunno can get or not |
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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ May 5 2014, 03:08 PM) I'm greedy.. wanna wait for 0.75 in stock market anything possible Dunno can get or not  ,0.76 i am happy enough....my next target is 0.70 if possible la ( provided most fundamental stay same la). if rebound back to 0.80 ++ then it let be lo... This post has been edited by foofoosasa: May 5 2014, 03:13 PM |
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May 5 2014, 03:15 PM
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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ May 5 2014, 03:12 PM) in stock market anything possible Agree, and good thinking ah foo ,0.76 i am happy enough....my next target is 0.70 if possible la ( provided most fundamental stay same la). if rebound back to 0.80 ++ then it let be lo... |
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May 5 2014, 03:18 PM
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hahahaha buy everything by jerrychoo2004.....nice one ^^
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May 5 2014, 04:29 PM
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fuiyo portfolio all red
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May 5 2014, 04:43 PM
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ May 5 2014, 04:29 PM) fuiyo portfolio all red Got heart attack type of red or not.. |
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May 5 2014, 04:47 PM
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steady
now at least i got several stock in my watch list. homer,malton, L&G,hovid... see which 1 cannot tahan tomorrow go grab it fitters damn bloody red today |
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May 5 2014, 08:09 PM
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wow.. today market red and I'm so busy to monitor... hope tomorrow got chance to top up homer.. hehe... then sports break for couple of months
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May 5 2014, 08:48 PM
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QUOTE(cksoon @ May 5 2014, 08:09 PM) wow.. today market red and I'm so busy to monitor... hope tomorrow got chance to top up homer.. hehe... then sports break for couple of months Pray for more bloodshed and get it even cheaper... |
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May 5 2014, 09:13 PM
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ May 5 2014, 08:48 PM) Pray for more bloodshed and get it even cheaper... that depends... today star newspaper somemore try to say this week could be instead be high point of bursa... not the 'sell in may and get away' |
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May 6 2014, 12:24 AM
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QUOTE(cksoon @ May 5 2014, 09:13 PM) that depends... today star newspaper somemore try to say this week could be instead be high point of bursa... not the 'sell in may and get away' look at utusan, there are still many are believing and support them |
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May 6 2014, 08:30 AM
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QUOTE(cksoon @ May 5 2014, 09:13 PM) that depends... today star newspaper somemore try to say this week could be instead be high point of bursa... not the 'sell in may and get away' Yikes! May I ask again what's the big deal about 'sell in May.... ' ??? Has it even proven to be a right strategy? Have you done your homework and concluded that this is a great strategy to rely on? OK, I am not going to prove you are right or wrong... but let me just throw in few pictures. And you try to think the reliability of such a strategy. Point is, in the market, never trust anyone but your ownself. 2012.  Comment: Market DID PLUNGE but only in mid May. (14 May) However, as quickly as it dropped (it dropped close to 56 pts. ), the market rebounded STRONGLY in May itself.The drastic plunge happened from 14 May to 18 May. 4 days only. Market rallied from 21 May onwards. By 19 Jun, the market was actually higher than May. KLCI's May high was 1590. KLCI closed 2012 at 1681. Market rallied 155 points from May lowest. of 1526. Sell in May, did it work? I could stop right here. All it takes is one wrong to disapprove the theory.... Here is 2013.  Sell in May? hard to see off hand. CI ended 2 May 2013 at 1723. Closed end May 2013 at 1769. market ended May much higher!!! Market only had a correction end June and another bigger one at end Aug. Sell in May, did it work? Now I do one extra. I just simply chincai choose PBank. Now imagine if one just blindly follow Sell in May strategy. This is the chart of PBank for that period in May 2013.  And this is the bigger picture of PBank.  If investor buta-buta sell in May, the investor would have gotten around 16++ for Pbank. End of last year, PBank closed at 19++. And the 16++ 'was'' not been seen again for PBank for 2013.......... Sell in May and go away......... ???? You decide yourself if this is a good or bad strategy??? |
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May 6 2014, 08:36 AM
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I know, it's impossible to explain. Somehow this 'sell in may' thing is so like them PONG SWAY charts.... no matter what the actual data shows.... many prefer to believe in such stiff. |
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May 6 2014, 09:09 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 30 2014, 08:49 AM) let me show you this of VIS.... Vis again... LOL!This was Monday's chart... Volume incredibly well orchestrated, right? Volume maintained consistently high.... err... left hand jual right hand ... right hand jual right leg... right leg jual left leg... left leg jual right left hand... lol now if we look at the left side of the chart... or the zoom in are of the left side.... we can clearly see that VIS is a bloody TARAK laku stock.... then suddenly all the volume came in beautifully orchestrated.... now thanks to Monday's drama minggu ini plunge..... suddenly VIS became laku. from 20 sen to even 30 sen.... LOL! stock were sold at prices that weren't possible in 2013. what do they say about stock distribution again? are they distributed on the way up or down? Updated chart:  Do you see what I see? LOL! Volume speaks a lot.... Ok, for every transaction there's a buyer and there's a seller. Sometimes... many likes to view things from the buyer perspective.... They only want to see the positive side of things.... Yes, being positive is very important in life but for stocks, with many sharks around, you better see things more openly..... What's important from that chart is the 2nd day. The first sell down or limit down, the volume traded was rather low. Yes, it did not take much effort to push the stock down. * Now if put that sentence into a bigger perspective, remember the point where VIS was trending much higher on CONSISTENTLY high volume. Now if all those volume equals to actual demand of the stock, ie if the demand of the stock was 'real', then once the stock gives way, you would expect all the previous demand for the stock would come alive and support the stock immediately. It did not happen!!! * The volume data in numbers is much easier to see.  On 25 April, Vis closed at 77 sen. Volume done was 10,541,000 next day, Vis went limit down. Volume done was only 3,161,400. Volume done was only about 1/3 of its previous day volume. Why did the 'demand' of the stock suddenly disappear? Then the biggest tell tale sign of distribution came on the next day. Volume done was 107,877,200 million!!! Volume increased 34 times! 34 times!!! Would be buyers (or those with position) would use the buyer perspective to describe this 'unusual' event. They would argue that buyers came in to support the stock. Stock dropped from 77 sen wor... Now 22+ sen, surely buyers see value....... LOL! Now what about sellers perspective? No matter who was buying.... the other point is............................................... many shares were disposed!!!!! remember this chart? see 2012 and just before the orchestrated volume in 2013.... Vis WAS a coma stock. hardly any volume. Traded share price was around 14-15 sen only! think of this scenario.... coma stock, no volume..... Sharkie orchestrate it with artificial trading... push the stock to 77 sen..... and then suddenly pull the floor out..... stock crashes.... many come in think ... got value.... High 77 sen, now 25 sen... value.. value... value..... then sharkie dump like hell ......... what's the average price you dump? ( say 25 sen? )...... Possible? |
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May 6 2014, 09:18 AM
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i think IT stock may go up like DGSB, VIS, Censof, Myeg, Mpay etc related
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May 6 2014, 09:35 AM
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morning all
probably another coma day for my holding again |
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May 6 2014, 09:38 AM
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Go go homer.. topped up some yday
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May 6 2014, 09:38 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ May 6 2014, 08:30 AM) Sell in May and go away......... ???? You decide yourself if this is a good or bad strategy??? |
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May 6 2014, 09:40 AM
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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ May 6 2014, 09:38 AM) Go go homer.. topped up some yday things need to be careful when so many ppl here have homer.... like everyone here owns 30%??? |
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May 6 2014, 09:45 AM
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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ May 6 2014, 09:38 AM) Go go homer.. topped up some yday so "pok" meh ? |
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May 6 2014, 09:46 AM
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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ May 6 2014, 09:38 AM) Be a contrarian! Be different! YES! Sometimes it can work...... Sometimes.... contrarian play not easy... it's like fighting against everyone all the time... balls of steel.... if it works out... great.... you damn genius la wei !!! if it fails..... err... people will say to you..... why you so stubborn and simply fight the market ah? |
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May 6 2014, 09:52 AM
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QUOTE(spring onion @ May 6 2014, 09:40 AM) things need to be careful when so many ppl here have homer.... like everyone here owns 30%??? Alot of us have homer meh? Very few only, like us loh in low yat forum lolit's an unloved stock. Even analysts are ignoring it, nobody wants to even give it a look QUOTE(foofoosasa @ May 6 2014, 09:45 AM) so "pok" meh 0.755, small lots only... ?QUOTE(Boon3 @ May 6 2014, 09:46 AM) contrarian play not easy... playing it safe too, no sell, no buy.. except for yesterday it's like fighting against everyone all the time... balls of steel.... if it works out... great.... you damn genius la wei !!! if it fails..... err... people will say to you..... why you so stubborn and simply fight the market ah? |
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May 6 2014, 09:56 AM
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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ May 6 2014, 09:52 AM) Alot of us have homer meh? Very few only, like us loh in low yat forum lol all prefer Latitude it's an unloved stock. Even analysts are ignoring it, nobody wants to even give it a look 0.755, small lots only... playing it safe too, no sell, no buy.. except for yesterday small lots = 1000 lots |
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May 6 2014, 10:01 AM
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guys take a look at mudajaya... something brewing
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May 6 2014, 10:03 AM
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QUOTE(spring onion @ May 6 2014, 10:01 AM) guys take a look at mudajaya... something brewing KFC trading time? but like nothing special? maybe I too noob... |
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May 6 2014, 10:26 AM
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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ May 6 2014, 10:03 AM) KFC trading time? Rallying upppp but like nothing special? maybe I too noob... |
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May 6 2014, 10:37 AM
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sharks exchanging hand on hovid???
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May 6 2014, 10:45 AM
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Simpson got downtrend line wo. Break downtrend enter, CL below 0.75 boleh? |
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May 6 2014, 11:20 AM
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QUOTE(hehe86 @ May 6 2014, 10:45 AM) Simpson got downtrend line wo. Break downtrend enter, CL below 0.75 boleh? |
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May 6 2014, 11:24 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ May 6 2014, 11:20 AM) Sifoo!!!! Nani!!? Sifoo (Dead fool!) |
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May 6 2014, 11:40 AM
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boring day? Yawnnn~~
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May 6 2014, 11:59 AM
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QUOTE(cksoon @ May 5 2014, 08:09 PM) wow.. today market red and I'm so busy to monitor... hope tomorrow got chance to top up homer.. hehe... then sports break for couple of months Analysts predicted new high for the market this week QUOTE Despite the stock market adage: sell in May and go away, technical analysis indicate that Malaysia’s stock market is likely to test a record high this week. sosAccording to technical analysts, near-term indicators suggest that the benchmark FTSE Bursa Malaysia KL Composite Index (FBM KLCI) will likely rewrite its all-time high of 1,882 that was recorded on Dec 31, 2013. |
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May 6 2014, 12:05 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ May 6 2014, 08:36 AM) I know, it's impossible to explain. Somehow this 'sell in may' thing is so like them PONG SWAY charts.... no matter what the actual data shows.... many prefer to believe in such stiff. homer no drop today.. missss |
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May 6 2014, 03:25 PM
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QUOTE(spring onion @ May 6 2014, 10:01 AM) guys take a look at mudajaya... something brewing Care to share what is brewing?   |
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May 6 2014, 03:26 PM
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QUOTE(hehe86 @ May 6 2014, 11:24 AM) Nani!!? Sifoo (Dead fool!) You can be my hero jor! |
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May 6 2014, 03:35 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ May 6 2014, 03:26 PM) You can be my hero jor! Eh?! What did i do? Listen too much of Enrique Iglesias? |
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May 6 2014, 03:36 PM
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QUOTE(hehe86 @ May 6 2014, 03:35 PM) Eh?! What did i do? Yikes! Listen too much of Enrique Iglesias? Who is that? |
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May 6 2014, 03:55 PM
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QUOTE(hehe86 @ May 6 2014, 03:35 PM) Eh?! What did i do? weiii.... no more tipsy meh? |
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May 6 2014, 03:56 PM
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At time like this, coma stock like Westport moves. Lol.
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May 6 2014, 04:09 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ May 6 2014, 03:25 PM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « 2. tendency to rebounce from hitting a new low 3. going for new project soon okay it went back down |
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May 6 2014, 04:36 PM
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QUOTE(spring onion @ May 6 2014, 04:09 PM) 1. they bought a plant in indon. I might agree with point....2.2. tendency to rebounce from hitting a new low 3. going for new project soon okay it went back down Point 1? Not a justifiable reason. Point 3? Errr....not for me. |
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May 6 2014, 04:43 PM
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QUOTE(spring onion @ May 6 2014, 04:09 PM) 1. they bought a plant in indon. On point 2....2. tendency to rebounce from hitting a new low 3. going for new project soon okay it went back down There was a gap down last month... Why? |
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May 6 2014, 04:48 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ May 6 2014, 04:43 PM) On point 2.... iinm, the management failed to report something which is important... and they actually sold off some shares tooThere was a gap down last month... Why? |
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May 6 2014, 04:52 PM
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QUOTE(spring onion @ May 6 2014, 04:48 PM) iinm, the management failed to report something which is important... and they actually sold off some shares too I see.That's not very good development. |
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May 6 2014, 05:25 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ May 6 2014, 03:55 PM) weiii.... no more tipsy meh?  |
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May 6 2014, 05:40 PM
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dbhd want to have
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May 6 2014, 06:37 PM
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QUOTE(spring onion @ May 6 2014, 05:40 PM) dbhd want to have Interesting..... http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/business-ne...c-takeover.html KUALA LUMPUR (May 6): Damansara Realty Bhd (DBHD) rose as much as 13% on speculation that the firm, which has close links with the Johor royalty, will take over KFC Holdings (Malaysia) Bhd from Johor Corporation (JCorp), dealers said today. DBHD officials could not be reached for comment. At 2.57 pm, DBHD jumped 14 sen or 10.6% to RM1.46. The fourth top gainer saw some 9.7 million shares changed hands. It had earlier hit a high of RM1.49. According to a dealer, DBHD might take over the ‘golden egg’ assets held by JCorp, such as KFC. Johor businessman Datuk Daing A Malek Daing A Rahaman, who is well connected to the state royalty, has assumed control of DBHD via Seaview Holdings Sdn Bhd. “We hear market talk that the Sultan of Johor views favourably on DBHD and is willing to inject KFC into the firm,” the dealer told theedgemalaysia.com. On April 30, DBHD announced to Bursa Malaysia that Seaview had completed its acquisition of 51% of equity in DBHD from JCorp via a share sales agreement. Daing A Malek is one the shareholders of Seaview. Meanwhile, another dealer told theedgemalaysia.com that DBHD’s rise among the top gainers today could be due to a technical rebound. “We think it is a technical rebound, although we have heard JCorp may inject assets into DBHD,” said the dealer over the telephone. From a technical perspective, Kenanga Research in a note today said DBHD’s immediate support and resistance levels hover at RM1.32 and RM1.58 respectively. ============= Wayang kulit time.... http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/business-ne...ara-realty.html KUALA LUMPUR (May 6): Johor Corporation Bhd (JCorp) has denied speculations that Damansara Realty Bhd (DBHD) will take over its subsidiary, KFC Holdings (Malaysia) Bhd. “JCorp is not aware of such proposal and has not solicited any proposal in relation to the mentioned companies,” said the state corporation in an email statement to theedgemalaysia.com. Earlier today, theedgemalaysia.com reported that DBHD, which has close links with the Johor royalty, rose 13% after the firm was rumoured to take over KFC. DBHD official could not be reached for comment. DBHD attracted market attention after Johor businessman Datuk Daing A Malek Daing A Rahaman, who is well connected to the state royalty, assumed control of DBHD via Seaview Holdings Sdn Bhd. |
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May 6 2014, 07:16 PM
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Dbhd... yesterday wait whole day also dont want come down meet me at 1.30
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May 6 2014, 07:31 PM
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QUOTE(hehe86 @ May 6 2014, 05:25 PM) |
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May 6 2014, 08:05 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ May 6 2014, 06:37 PM) Interesting..... this counter like goreng since like 10 years ago... now suddenly given new lease of lifehttp://www.theedgemalaysia.com/business-ne...c-takeover.html KUALA LUMPUR (May 6): Damansara Realty Bhd (DBHD) rose as much as 13% on speculation that the firm, which has close links with the Johor royalty, will take over KFC Holdings (Malaysia) Bhd from Johor Corporation (JCorp), dealers said today. DBHD officials could not be reached for comment. At 2.57 pm, DBHD jumped 14 sen or 10.6% to RM1.46. The fourth top gainer saw some 9.7 million shares changed hands. It had earlier hit a high of RM1.49. According to a dealer, DBHD might take over the ‘golden egg’ assets held by JCorp, such as KFC. Johor businessman Datuk Daing A Malek Daing A Rahaman, who is well connected to the state royalty, has assumed control of DBHD via Seaview Holdings Sdn Bhd. “We hear market talk that the Sultan of Johor views favourably on DBHD and is willing to inject KFC into the firm,” the dealer told theedgemalaysia.com. On April 30, DBHD announced to Bursa Malaysia that Seaview had completed its acquisition of 51% of equity in DBHD from JCorp via a share sales agreement. Daing A Malek is one the shareholders of Seaview. Meanwhile, another dealer told theedgemalaysia.com that DBHD’s rise among the top gainers today could be due to a technical rebound. “We think it is a technical rebound, although we have heard JCorp may inject assets into DBHD,” said the dealer over the telephone. From a technical perspective, Kenanga Research in a note today said DBHD’s immediate support and resistance levels hover at RM1.32 and RM1.58 respectively. ============= Wayang kulit time.... http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/business-ne...ara-realty.html KUALA LUMPUR (May 6): Johor Corporation Bhd (JCorp) has denied speculations that Damansara Realty Bhd (DBHD) will take over its subsidiary, KFC Holdings (Malaysia) Bhd. “JCorp is not aware of such proposal and has not solicited any proposal in relation to the mentioned companies,” said the state corporation in an email statement to theedgemalaysia.com. Earlier today, theedgemalaysia.com reported that DBHD, which has close links with the Johor royalty, rose 13% after the firm was rumoured to take over KFC. DBHD official could not be reached for comment. DBHD attracted market attention after Johor businessman Datuk Daing A Malek Daing A Rahaman, who is well connected to the state royalty, assumed control of DBHD via Seaview Holdings Sdn Bhd. |
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May 6 2014, 09:41 PM
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QUOTE(cksoon @ May 6 2014, 08:05 PM) this counter like goreng since like 10 years ago... now suddenly given new lease of life Goreng like 10 years ago meh?Not 10 years la... back then was 2007 and now is 2014 So far, then 2007 and now 2014..... very much same..... so far. !!!!  This post has been edited by Boon3: May 6 2014, 09:42 PM |
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May 6 2014, 10:10 PM
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Idea no scare old, most important is it sells
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May 7 2014, 08:18 AM
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QUOTE(hehe86 @ May 6 2014, 10:45 AM) Simpson got downtrend line wo. Break downtrend enter, CL below 0.75 boleh?  sometimes they say patterns exist.... do they? this current downtrend happened AFTER Homeriz announced their profits results on 28/4/14 Previous profits was announced on 24/1/14  .... and yes, a similar downtrend was also noticeable. Only difference, I would say for the current downtrend, there was already a slight weakness of the stock before the profits were announced. But betting on patterns is not a sure win strategy. Sometimes patterns do happen, sometimes they don't. This is the much bigger picture. the previous profits were announced on end Oct 2013. Homeriz went gap up instead.  So where's my tip? |
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May 7 2014, 08:57 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ May 7 2014, 08:18 AM) So where's my tip? Previous rebound happened beginning of Feb, so the current one should have happened beginning of May. |
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May 7 2014, 09:18 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ May 7 2014, 08:18 AM) So where's my tip? Fuh yoh, 'seafoo-d'. Still need tip meh. Well i just use 0.75 as the current 'support' due to the gap. So i retain my previos statement lo. Edit: And also i'm abit 'worry' bout those 2 high volumes This post has been edited by hehe86: May 7 2014, 09:25 AM |
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May 7 2014, 09:56 AM
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today market red in colour
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May 7 2014, 10:42 AM
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another coma day
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May 7 2014, 11:01 AM
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thomas cup and world cup coming, so coma also trying to beg attention
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May 7 2014, 11:15 AM
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QUOTE(cksoon @ May 7 2014, 11:01 AM) thomas cup and world cup coming, so coma also trying to beg attention what has thomas cup got to do with stock market? Yeah, you might as well state that puasa month happens during mid of the world cup. |
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May 7 2014, 11:23 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ May 7 2014, 11:15 AM) what has thomas cup got to do with stock market? Yeah, you might as well state that puasa month happens during mid of the world cup. |
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May 7 2014, 11:35 AM
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QUOTE(cksoon @ May 7 2014, 11:23 AM) lol, puasa somemore... everyone coma.. business also coma time Yeah and then many are just playing candy crush in the office too! What market? LOL! So funny. Why don't one just prove conclusively that SELL before the World Cup is one fail proof strategy. |
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May 7 2014, 11:37 AM
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Not necessarily saying that one should buy or sell. It's just that market may be flat and unexciting because no one is paying much attention to it. cksoon could try to prove it by comparing market transaction volumes with past incidences of major sporting events.
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May 7 2014, 11:41 AM
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QUOTE(wankongyew @ May 7 2014, 11:37 AM) Not necessarily saying that one should buy or sell. It's just that market may be flat and unexciting because no one is paying much attention to it. cksoon could try to prove it by comparing market transaction volumes with past incidences of major sporting events. yup, it's just everyone seems to be candy crushing instead. well, I'm dreading as in the past, my business always suffer when it comes to this events and time... puasa... zzzz... business also puasa together. |
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May 7 2014, 11:45 AM
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QUOTE(wankongyew @ May 7 2014, 11:37 AM) Not necessarily saying that one should buy or sell. It's just that market may be flat and unexciting because no one is paying much attention to it. cksoon could try to prove it by comparing market transaction volumes with past incidences of major sporting events. Point is we ALWAYS hear so many super market advices/theories. SELL la in May and go holiday.... BUY for CNY rally.... SELL la before World Cup.... BUY la for Raya rally.... BUY la for Santa rally.... LOL! So many theories..... my point is? Has anyone conclusively prove that these theories even work? Sell in May theory? I think I posted the 2013 and 2012, KLCI chart. I even posted one random stock, PBBank. Did the theory even work? World Cup theory? I have posted not too long ago the CI charts for the last 3 World Cups. Did the theory even work? Yeah, I think it is better if market players do their own homework, check their own data, before simply listening to advices. |
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May 7 2014, 11:49 AM
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I know that you always post lots of charts and data to accompany your statements. This is why the forum treats you like a god. Like everyone else, I am of course in awe as well of how much work you put into research and how well reasoned your arguments are.
But sometimes people just like to post to talk cock. Otherwise the thread is dull and quiet, like the market is right now. And anyway not all posts must necessarily be advice. It may just be random observations and anecdotes. |
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May 7 2014, 11:50 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ May 7 2014, 11:45 AM) Point is we ALWAYS hear so many super market advices/theories. SELL la in May and go holiday.... BUY for CNY rally.... SELL la before World Cup.... BUY la for Raya rally.... BUY la for Santa rally.... LOL! So many theories..... my point is? Has anyone conclusively prove that these theories even work? Sell in May theory? I think I posted the 2013 and 2012, KLCI chart. I even posted one random stock, PBBank. Did the theory even work? World Cup theory? I have posted not too long ago the CI charts for the last 3 World Cups. Did the theory even work? Yeah, I think it is better if market players do their own homework, check their own data, before simply listening to advices. It depends I think, and you're right and I totally agree with you that we've to do our own homework, check and convince our ownselfs with facts or what we believe and not just simple following |
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May 7 2014, 11:57 AM
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QUOTE(cksoon @ May 7 2014, 11:41 AM) yup, it's just everyone seems to be candy crushing instead. well, I'm dreading as in the past, my business always suffer when it comes to this events and time... puasa... zzzz... business also puasa together. Thanks for sharing your business experiences.Yes, sometimes it can be a good indicator.... but .... remember there are always exceptions. How many people, you know, have complained that business in general has been poor for the Dec-Feb period recently? I heard many, from different businesses. But strangely, if you recall the good/lousy profits trend list I posted recently, most companies that reported for that period, actually performed much better than last year. Well..... how would you explain that? You know, sometimes, observations are just observations. Sometimes we can see a shop with booming business. We walk in and we usually see loads of people in the shop. But can we safely conclude 100% that this is a great profitable business? We cannot because we do not know the financial standing of the company. If the company is heavily leveraged, then whatever good business from appearance would be reduced greatly by financial costs. Or perhaps, the owners have other huge hidden costs from our eyes? For example, the owners could pay themselves with obscene salaries or the owners simply pass all sort of bills as company expenses. When that happens, all the profits would be diminished! |
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May 7 2014, 11:59 AM
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Today Raya really rally..
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May 7 2014, 12:02 PM
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QUOTE(wankongyew @ May 7 2014, 11:49 AM) But sometimes people just like to post to talk cock. Otherwise the thread is dull and quiet, like the market is right now. And anyway not all posts must necessarily be advice. It may just be random observations and anecdotes. |
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May 7 2014, 12:13 PM
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Just to share once again the 2010 KLCI chart.
 Notes.... 1. The index dropped a lot in May itself. 2. The market however, rebounded strongly by end May itself. 3. 2010 World Cup started in June. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_FIFA_World_Cup Conclusion? |
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May 7 2014, 12:16 PM
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Just out of curiosity, do you have to pay for a copy of the ChartNexus software to create those charts? Does it come with full historical data?
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May 7 2014, 12:19 PM
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QUOTE(wankongyew @ May 7 2014, 12:16 PM) Just out of curiosity, do you have to pay for a copy of the ChartNexus software to create those charts? Does it come with full historical data? I am a cheapskate.I try to use everything the free way. My copy is from the trading software provided by my brokerage house, and in this instance, KenMoney. Jupiter charting is the same, and yes most stocks have full historical data, except for CI. Yeah... the CI .... I cannot go back to say 2002. |
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May 7 2014, 12:21 PM
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Correction... my free cheapo software only provides me to see 10 year data.
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May 7 2014, 12:27 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ May 7 2014, 12:21 PM) Correction... my free cheapo software only provides me to see 10 year data. Good already, mine silly software only provide 5 months chart data. |
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May 7 2014, 11:05 PM
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rock this thread abit
homework from boon3. hehe now only free 
macam normal jer the only thing not normal is last year same quarter result if you ask me will there be an impressive result this year, i would say so-so |
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May 7 2014, 11:30 PM
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QUOTE(spring onion @ May 7 2014, 11:05 PM) rock this thread abit Meh stock ah? homework from boon3. hehe now only free
macam normal jer the only thing not normal is last year same quarter result if you ask me will there be an impressive result this year, i would say so-so |
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May 7 2014, 11:39 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ May 7 2014, 11:30 PM) Meh stock ah? P/E 16.xxdividend payout close to 100% last year dividend yield 6%, based on the current 'trend' capital gain should be slow to moderate. to further analyze this really need this coming report can justify your thought of skeptical of my 'meh' rating of this counter? This post has been edited by spring onion: May 7 2014, 11:40 PM |
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May 7 2014, 11:46 PM
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QUOTE(spring onion @ May 7 2014, 11:39 PM) P/E 16.xx What the stock name? dividend payout close to 100% last year dividend yield 6%, based on the current 'trend' capital gain should be slow to moderate. to further analyze this really need this coming report can justify your thought of skeptical of my 'meh' rating of this counter? |
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May 7 2014, 11:48 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ May 7 2014, 11:46 PM) What the stock name? QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 29 2014, 05:03 PM) Look at this other sample... http://www.malaysiastock.biz/Corporate-Inf...curityCode=2615 What do you see? you were talking about seasonal cycle on the other day This post has been edited by spring onion: May 7 2014, 11:49 PM |
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May 7 2014, 11:53 PM
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Jinter ah? |
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May 7 2014, 11:55 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ May 7 2014, 11:53 PM) Jinter ah? |
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May 7 2014, 11:58 PM
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QUOTE(spring onion @ May 7 2014, 11:55 PM) abo? i thought you quite familiarize already? Almost midnight and you think I remember numbers meh? So what is the question, actually? Lazy to think la |
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May 8 2014, 12:01 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ May 7 2014, 11:58 PM) Almost midnight and you think I remember numbers meh? the question was about seeing seasonal cycle in business growth... you asked to take a look at this companySo what is the question, actually? Lazy to think la |
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