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TSBoon3
post May 8 2014, 12:04 AM

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QUOTE(spring onion @ May 8 2014, 12:01 AM)
the question was about seeing seasonal cycle in business growth... you asked to take a look at this company
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well you can see the Q4 results is always much lower, right?

that page, where you took the screen shot, scroll up...
look at the last 5 years profits.
what trend do you see?
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post May 8 2014, 12:08 AM

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Or you can see Carlsberg.
Their Q2 is always much lower than Q1 every year.
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post May 8 2014, 12:09 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ May 8 2014, 12:04 AM)
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well you can see the Q4 results is always much lower, right?

that page, where you took the screen shot, scroll up...
look at the last 5 years profits.
what trend do you see?
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2013 in recovering mode. back to its glorious day in 2010

business missed target in 2012 and 2013. tobacco company wor... how can miss 1? tongue.gif
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post May 8 2014, 12:24 AM

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QUOTE(spring onion @ May 8 2014, 12:09 AM)
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2013 in recovering mode. back to its glorious day in 2010
Or you could say 2012 was just one bad year.

But then from 2010 onwards, we see profits go from 130 mil -> 122 mil -> skip 2012 -> 121 mil....

What's now your description of this company then? tongue.gif

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post May 8 2014, 12:36 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ May 8 2014, 12:24 AM)
Or you could say 2012 was just one bad year.

But then from 2010 onwards, we see profits go from 130 mil -> 122 mil -> skip 2012 -> 121 mil....

What's now your description of this company then? tongue.gif
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normal for a tobacco or 4d counter... divvy counter

constant divvy, not much capital growth. i'll avoid such share tongue.gif

1 trend for sure, malays youngster are very into smoking nowadays
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post May 8 2014, 08:19 AM

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QUOTE(spring onion @ May 8 2014, 12:36 AM)
normal for a tobacco or 4d counter... divvy counter

constant divvy, not much capital growth. i'll avoid such share tongue.gif

1 trend for sure, malays youngster are very into smoking nowadays
One thing I notice is many here have a tendency to base their investments on actual real life observations.
They see a business or a product, they see it well sold, they tend assume the company is a good investment.
Or they deal business with a plc, they assume the company is a good investment based on their observation (like payments/purchases etc)
Or they have a relative in a plc or they actually know the ceo, they assume the company is a good investment.

Sometimes it works but sometimes it won't.
Which means this isn't a fail proof strategy. tongue.gif

Why? Because one is basically judging a book by its cover. sweat.gif sweat.gif
What we see must be backed by financial numbers.
Like said yesterday, sometimes we can see a good business.
But that good business might not as be as profitable as it looks.
For instance, some good looking might be highly leveraged.
We can only see this by looking at its numbers.
Or we can see a good business, good profit too....
but whatever good is hindered by simple issues like EPS, making the stock investment highly expensive....
or sometimes there could huge mitigation lawsuits against the company we might not know unless we read the financials....
or even sometimes the business and good profit we see, is one without any growth... ie... year in year out, company profit is just constant and from market pro view point, such company's profits is unattractive due to the lack of growth......

better stop here........ for now..... tongue.gif
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post May 8 2014, 08:47 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ May 8 2014, 08:19 AM)
One thing I notice is many here have a tendency to base their investments on actual real life observations.
They see a business or a product, they see it well sold, they tend assume the company is a good investment.
Or they deal business with a plc, they assume the company is a good investment based on their observation (like payments/purchases etc)
Or they have a relative in a plc or they actually know the ceo, they assume the company is a good investment.

Sometimes it works but sometimes it won't.
Which means this isn't a fail proof strategy. tongue.gif

Why? Because one is basically judging a book by its cover.  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
What we see must be backed by financial numbers.
Like said yesterday, sometimes we can see a good business.
But that good business might not as be as profitable as it looks.
For instance, some good looking might be highly leveraged.
We can only see this by looking at its numbers.
Or we can see a good business, good profit too....
but whatever good is hindered by simple issues like EPS, making the stock investment highly expensive....
or sometimes there could huge mitigation lawsuits against the company we might not know unless we read the financials....
or even sometimes the business and good profit we see, is one without any growth... ie... year in year out, company profit is just constant and from market pro view point, such company's profits is unattractive due to the lack of growth......

better stop here........ for now.....  tongue.gif
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thumbup.gif Thanks again! This reminds me to always look at their reports!

Write a blog mah,

or you are writing already? Like gark said.



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post May 8 2014, 08:59 AM

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QUOTE(billy_overheat @ May 8 2014, 08:47 AM)

Write a blog mah,

or you are writing already? Like gark said.
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Yeah, I should start write a blog on how to sell popiahs. laugh.gif

On second thoughts, maybe I should become a stock salesman.

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post May 8 2014, 09:04 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ May 8 2014, 08:59 AM)
Yeah, I should start write a blog on how to sell popiahs. laugh.gif

On second thoughts, maybe I should become a stock salesman.

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keep promoting stocks ah? not bad mah, once in awhile, point people to hollan. tongue.gif
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post May 8 2014, 09:06 AM

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QUOTE(billy_overheat @ May 8 2014, 09:04 AM)
keep promoting stocks ah? not bad mah, once in awhile, point people to hollan.  tongue.gif
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You want to promote stocks, that's a business la.... doh.gif

You want to make big money! drool.gif drool.gif

Sending people to holland?
Siao ah?
That's bad for business yo!

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post May 8 2014, 09:58 AM

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post May 8 2014, 10:01 AM

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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ May 8 2014, 09:58 AM)
Mana ni gark? Missing in action  hmm.gif
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he's too buys busy playing candy crush!

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post May 8 2014, 10:02 AM

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Climbing mount Kinabalu kot... ahahahaha
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post May 8 2014, 10:08 AM

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One candy crush, one climb mountain...

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post May 8 2014, 10:19 AM

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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ May 8 2014, 10:08 AM)
One candy crush, one climb mountain...

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Where's my tip?

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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ May 8 2014, 10:08 AM)
One candy crush, one climb mountain...

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Naik bukit, tembak harimau...
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post May 8 2014, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ May 8 2014, 10:19 AM)
Where's my tip?

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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ May 8 2014, 10:45 AM)
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Good? Dont seem like their business is growing. In fact profit swing quite a lot.
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post May 8 2014, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ May 8 2014, 10:45 AM)
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Typo is it?

More by 2? laugh.gif
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post May 8 2014, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ May 8 2014, 09:06 AM)
doh.gif

You want to promote stocks, that's a business la.... doh.gif

You want to make big money!  drool.gif  drool.gif

Sending people to holland?
Siao ah?
That's bad for business yo!

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You already have a fanbase over here. tongue.gif

Go ahead~ tongue.gif tongue.gif












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