Walau, so hardcore meh. This single cell battery can cost a bom. think how many battery need in serial to get a 12v? And require space to store.

This setup of course is good. Long life and high amp per battery.

We hijack your post already. He...

Nice to see someone that go thoroughly for almost every aspect..please do more R & D since I love R & D but im in Finance field.. cant do much.. how about HT room? any details? any special insulation? BTW I vote for e Post #12 design... Cheers

Most middle east countries the humidity are quite low compare to Malaysia, so there will be different. You need to know the heat index first.

Energy conversion will result to lost. Especially AC to DC. AC known to be low in efficiency.

Not really, the TNB newer digital meter run faster by 25% compare to old school meter.

where did you get that info from? if the meter runs properly the reading will be (+-) the same.

Off everything and only run air cond or washing machine, taking efficiency at 75%.
If the equipment to be test is 1000W(per hour), running it for 1 hour should be using less than 1 unit. But it moves 1 unit before 1 hour.
Not to mention people that complaint on this. Come out in most chinese paper every now and then.

just by beeing in the newspaper doesnt make it true - more likely previous meter was undercounting.

your test also doesnt work that well if you dont ensure 100% load. if there would be an overcount of 25% surely you can a) get a new meter, b) get a refund from tnb. there is a margin of error in those things but it will be more like +- 1 or 2% - not 25%.

My house digital meter measure the same as the analog meter. I actually find it run slower.

Yup, you are right on this. Since Chinese are just by comers in Malaysia. What we says carry no weight.
Just tell me, setting 16'C is full load or not? Or even it is not, it will work harder on initial.
And the rated power on the spec is just a short burst, typical power are the right measurement and it won't go to rated power most of the time. So the actual load are even lower.

seriously dude, let's not add to the race bigotry. it's bad enough the segregation that we're all so accustomed to.
whatever race you might be, whatever colour of your skin, holds no correlation to the significance of information, and/or truth.

actual power measurement is quite complicated. but if you had any credible proof that the digital meter is overcharging consumers, by all mean sue TNB, report to the consumer tribunal, report to suruhanjaya tenaga, and/or report to KETTHA. if it's too much of a hassle, pass the info to a consumer association and let them proceed with it.

the simplest way to actually measure whether tnb is overcharging is to turn off all the circuit breakers at the fuse box, and use a kill-a-watt meter that could measure the energy used (in relation to time) and check the consumption for a single high power item and validate that to the meter reading.
but even that is still not bulletproof, since the kill-a-watt isn't exactly a precision instrument and it's not calibrated.

to actually be credible enough for a solid proof, you need at least one of these:

problem is, it's freaking expensive. a used unit is still going for ~RM5k.
i'm trying to get my hands on one since my mum's house is experiencing some huge voltage sag, causing the power bill to shoot sky high. reported the matter 4 times to tnb this year. without any further action.

it's full load. but power rating will always be different compared to the manufacturer specs printed on the label. usually it'll be within 10%, but it's not unusual for the power usage to within 10%-25% offset compared to the label. thus the reason to carry out actual measurement, rather than relying on the label and extrapolating from it.

tnb meter
analog vs digital

positive
when the bill is lower, this new digital so accurate, all the while the analog i spent XXXX, with digital my bill only XXX. i had been paying all my life, lucky switch to digital.

negative
when the bill is higher, this new digital is bloody sucker, last time i paid only XXX, but this stupid digital my bill now XXXX. i'm stuck for life, tnb cheating me don't allowed my go back analog.

moral of story no one like to pay higher bill charges. imo newspaper nvr explain another side of story.

we don't have much option, either stuck with grid or off the grid (solar,wind,genset)

Well, I like when some jerks like to deny something without doing more research. Tell you what, the English and Malay papers never have a news stating people are complaining about once the meter changed, their bill raise up buy 100-300%. Only Chinese papers has.
So instead of looking at the "rated" spec, I will dig more on typical rated spec at full or low load which is ~50% from it.

Analog meters are using mechanical parts, so wear and tear is there. Still it won't cause a huge spike when changing to new meter. Have to know that, no third party independent party to calibrate those digital meters and it is open secret that TNB asked their contractors to make it run faster than normal.

things is improving dear friend. look at how the community is condemning the malay tudung lady for her racial remarks against the old chinese uncle. she's bashed left and right from the entire community, even muslims alike.

racial tension, racial hatred, racial prejudice is pretty much reduced after the few past elections. even some big issue like the whole JAIS/MAIS raid on the bible association, the usage of 'Allah' by other religions, all of those issue can't stop people from coming together. muslims are now adopting a more moderate stance. which is rarely seen during the reign of you know who.

it might take a while more. but things is definitely improving.

That lady deserves a bash from all. If the accident are not serious and repair work > rm300, just lodge a police report, case close.
No need to use object to hit others.

she should be put in jail on the charge of aggression using a weapon. the way she hit the car using the steering lock shows her intention to use the weapon to assault and hurt others.

that kind of people should be put in jail.

i am not dignifying the race card game - this is a fav malaysian pasttime and serves no purpose besides dividing ethnical groups so that incompetent and possible c*** politicians can ab*** power. if you play their game, good for them bad for the country.

first of and again for the record. just because something is printed it doesnt become true (thank god). if i think of all the *** published in "newspapers" like berita hariam i am really thankfull for that.

second: if what you say were true then you can easily and successfully sue TNB for meter tempering which is a crime. since its on a large scale its more serious. demand a couple of millions compensation for kicks.

third: measuring power consumption through a meter can be verified. get your meter tested in a lab if you feel like it.

i am sure you will be able to get a credible finding with a definite answer. your tests just dont hold up to a test environment - sorry.

Well, she think she was the princess. Thanks to the Malaysian education.

first, everything printed in papers may not be true, but that will be more on political issue. On this, Chinese papers are more fair in some sense.
second, nobody can verify as no third party independent tester can be approved by government.
thirdly, I can use a FLIR camera to measure by comparing temperature between 2 meters. By cut off every electrical appliance and take temperature, the digital meter's incoming wire will still be warmer compare to analog type.