Actually if you read Genesis 41, Pharaoh is only a figure head, Joseph become the Ruler.

Huh? I am not asking for a list ... I meant the list of dealings goes on ... Dealings are not big things always ... it is always the normal, small details of our life that God touches and deals. All happenings is in God's hand.

2-3) He made peace? Lol He was so cunning ... always trying to stay ahead of things ...  He even put the women and children in front .... so that there is time to escape God deals with his supplants-ness.

"And Jacob lifted up his eyes, and looked, and, behold, Esau came, and with him four hundred men. And he divided the children unto Leah, and unto Rachel, and unto the two handmaids. And he put the handmaids and their children foremost, and Leah and her children after, and Rachel and Joseph hindermost. And he passed over before them, and bowed himself to the ground seven times, until he came near to his brother." He was still as cunning as before. He even bowed down seven times to the ground before his brother. Verse 4 says, "And Esau ran to meet him, and embraced him, and fell on his neck, and kissed him: and they wept." Jacob did not expect that his schemes would not be needed and that all his plans were in vain. God's protection was real. All he needed was a little faith and he could have avoided much vexation and fear! Esau did not try to kill him; rather, he was coming to welcome him. He embraced Jacob, fell on his neck, and kissed him. All of Jacob's cleverness and plans came to nothing!

5) We all have our "Laban" . - boss, friends, colleague etc.
On the marriage day you thought that your wife is your Rachel .... it turn out to be Leah. All married man can testify this ... Many times we have a lot of "Rachels - heart treasure" in us and it turn to "Leahs".

After he lost Rachel, the first choice of his natural love [that was a blow]. He lost Joseph ... the son of the love of his life. How is this not a dealing? Throughout the time, Jacob never had any closure ... he never knew whether he was alive or dead. Those time cause him to be open to God and God uses this to fill him and transform him.

I think the point this, we all experiencing God as the God of dealing not only as the sufficient One, God of grace, mercy, love etc. To realize that suffering however small or big, as Christian, we must have a view that God is transforming us for His purpose.

Nope. It's delegated.
Genesis 41
39 And Pharaoh said unto Joseph, Forasmuch as God hath shewed thee all this, there is none so discreet and wise as thou art:

40 Thou shalt be over my house, and according unto thy word shall all my people be ruled: only in the throne will I be greater than thou.

41 And Pharaoh said unto Joseph, See, I have set thee over all the land of Egypt.

42 And Pharaoh took off his ring from his hand, and put it upon Joseph's hand, and arrayed him in vestures of fine linen, and put a gold chain about his neck;

43 And he made him to ride in the second chariot which he had; and they cried before him, Bow the knee: and he made him ruler over all the land of Egypt.

44 And Pharaoh said unto Joseph, I am Pharaoh, and without thee shall no man lift up his hand or foot in all the land of Egypt.

And again in Genesis 45
7 And Pharaoh said unto Joseph, Say unto thy brethren, This do ye; lade your beasts, and go, get you unto the land of Canaan;

18 And take your father and your households, and come unto me: and I will give you the good of the land of Egypt, and ye shall eat the fat of the land.

19 Now thou art commanded, this do ye; take you wagons out of the land of Egypt for your little ones, and for your wives, and bring your father, and come.

20 Also regard not your stuff; for the good of all the land of Egypt is your's.

21 And the children of Israel did so: and Joseph gave them wagons, according to the commandment of Pharaoh, and gave them provision for the way.

The land does not belong to Joseph. He is just ruling/ managing on behalf of the Pharoah. If the land belongs to Joseph, then Pharoah would not need to give the good land to his family.

Anyway. I really do not want to get further then this because I know how biased you can be.

paradigm issue.

btw: about bible accuracy... do you know that we, as Christian, bible accuracy knowledge is irrelevant ?

I mean, if Jesus say the way to interpret is ABCD... then ABCD is the right paradigm... then ABCD lah regardless of accurate or not.

I see lengthy about either Pharaoh or Joseph the real ruler. After that? Just about bible accuracy knowledge? 

paradigm issue.

btw: about bible accuracy... do you know that we, as Christian, bible accuracy knowledge is irrelevant ?

I mean, if Jesus say the way to interpret is ABCD... then ABCD is the right paradigm... then ABCD lah regardless of accurate or not.

Actually nothing wrong with discussing about Bible knowledge.

Problem is, this is /k/ sometime shoes start to fly.

Pharaoh did not instruct him when it comes to ruler ship. Joseph gets to decide that on his own authority.
In Fact Pharaoh reaffirms that in verse

Pharaoh as Figurehead
Genesis 41:40 (NIV) -  You shall be in charge of my palace, and all my people are to submit to your orders. Only with respect to the throne will I be greater than you."

Rulership
Genesis 41:41 (NIV) - So Pharaoh said to Joseph, "I hereby put you in charge of the whole land of Egypt."
Genesis 41:44 (NIV) - Then Pharaoh said to Joseph, "I am Pharaoh, but without your word no one will lift hand or foot in all Egypt."

Yeah. sometimes can get too caught up with the bible knowledge.

Are you then implying that the bible can be interpretated in a wishy washy way then.

Hi 

Hmmm ... as I don't know you or your understanding concerning salvation and the matter of reward. For me, in my understanding of the Bible, there is a two-fold truth: on the one hand, we are saved [wonderful!], we are saved eternally. Yet, on the other hand, there is a matter of the reward for the overcomers.

“If anyone’s work which he has built upon the foundation remains, he will receive a reward” (1 Cor. 3:14).
“If anyone’s work is consumed, he will suffer loss, but he himself will be saved, yet so as through fire” (1 Cor. 3:15).

Unfortunately, we can only praise the Lord, for those who just before dying, believe and receive salvation. But definitely they are not matured. This is why there is a matter of the millennium (1000 years) - the age of the kingdom - in which all those who are not matured will be perfected.

Regarding the millennium:

The heavenly section of the millennial kingdom will be composed of all the Old Testament and New Testament overcomers. This is indicated by the Lord’s word in Matthew 8:11: “I say to you that many will come from the east and the west and will recline at table with Abraham and Isaac and Jacob in the kingdom of the heavens.” This word refers to the manifestation of the kingdom of the heavens. In the manifestation of the kingdom the overcoming Gentile believers will feast with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob and with all the other Old Testament overcomers. As the overcomers participate in the feast of the kingdom of the heavens, they will drink the cup of the new covenant anew with their Lord (26:29).

The earthly section of the millennial kingdom will be the restored kingdom of Israel—the kingdom of David (Acts 1:6; Mark 11:10). In the Old Testament the Lord promised the Jewish people that the Messiah, the anointed One, would come to inherit the throne of David and restore the Jewish nation, that is, the nation of Israel (Gen. 49:10; 2 Sam. 7:13, 16; Psa. 2:8-9; 72:1-20; 89:4; 110:2-3; Isa. 9:6-7; 11:1-5, 10; Jer. 23:5-6; 30:9; 33:14-17; Ezek. 21:27; 34:23-24; 37:24-25; Dan. 2:35; 7:14; Hosea 3:5; Amos 9:11-12; Zech. 3:8; 6:12-13; 9:9-10). When the Lord Jesus came the first time, the Jews were expecting the Messiah to restore His kingdom (Luke 2:25; 3:15; 7:19; John 1:41; 7:27, 41). However, it will not be until the Lord’s second coming that He will restore the Messianic kingdom (Matt. 23:39). The kingdom that the Messiah will restore—the kingdom of Messiah or the kingdom of Israel to be restored in the future—will be the earthly part of the millennium, the tabernacle of David which the Lord will rebuild (Acts 15:16). The Lord will sit on the throne of David and reign over the house of Jacob, that is, the Jewish people (Luke 1:32-33), and He will rule over the nations of the earth during the millennium (Psa. 2:8; 72:8; Dan. 7:14; 2:35).

The New Jerusalem will NOT BE A PHYSICAL CITY. The heavenly section of the millennial kingdom will actually be the New Jerusalem in the millennial age [not eternity].

The New Jerusalem is the union and mingling of all God’s redeemed through all the four ages of the forefathers, the law, grace, and the kingdom with the processed and consummated Triune God. It is thus a union and mingling of the redeemed with the redeeming God. 

The New Jerusalem, like the Body of Christ, is an organic constitution constituted with the redeeming processed and consummated Triune God and the redeemed, transformed, and glorified tripartite men as an organism of the consummated Triune God for His eternal enlargement and expression through the glorified tripartite men.

[I am excited when saying this]

At the time of millennium, the reality of it will be the overcomers only while the defeated believers will be perfected. In eternity future, all will be matured to be the New Jerusalem, the ultimate consummation

paradigm issue.

btw: about bible accuracy... do you know that we, as Christian, bible accuracy knowledge is irrelevant ?

I mean, if Jesus say the way to interpret is ABCD... then ABCD is the right paradigm... then ABCD lah regardless of accurate or not.

Ah yah bro, it is revelant

Of course, rhema is more important than the black and white, yet, at least the base is very important.

The Lord did quote from the Septuagint which is also a translation .... [though I heard a history that when the king ordered the 7? scribes to translate in separate rooms .... the result was the same ... now that's a miracle ]

We trust that Lord is sovereign in preserving the Bible as what we have it today.

You seem to have the wrong understanding pertaining to delegated powers
http://www.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_meani...elegated_powers

Anyway. Common Sense would have told you that the Pharoah will not cede power in that way. No one does that.

Genesis 45 just demonstrate the fact that the land and everything still belongs to Pharoah.

Joseph is just the CEO. He is still answerable to the Owner(Primarily Pharoah)

The reason why Pharoah allowed Joseph to rule(manage) the country is because he trust him to do a good job. Simple as that. No where did it indicated that Pharoah "step" down from power.

Ok, I was tempted, but this is really the last post pertaining to this.

No need for further discussion. You obviously never even understand what people write before posting your reply.

You seem to have the wrong understanding pertaining to delegated powers
http://www.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_meani...elegated_powers

Anyway. Common Sense would have told you that the Pharoah will not cede power in that way. No one does that.

Genesis 45 just demonstrate the fact that the land and everything still belongs to Pharoah.

Joseph is just the CEO. He is still answerable to the Owner(Primarily Pharoah)

The reason why Pharoah allowed Joseph to rule(manage) the country is because he trust him to do a good job. Simple as that. No where did it indicated that Pharoah "step" down from power.

Ok, I was tempted, but this is really the last post pertaining to this.

No need for further discussion. You obviously never even understand what people write before posting your reply.

I concur  . If Pharoah decided to have Joseph's head on a platter, he would definitely had gotten his wish granted.
Joseph only had as much power as the Pharoah bestowed upon him. The Pharoah was clearly in charge.

As for Jacob, he only tagged along with the rest of his family to Egypt. Joseph was definitely NOT a proxy of Jacob.
The Bible doesn't say. I wonder where did that come from 

No need for further discussion. You obviously never even understand what people write before posting your reply.

1. How are those not matured perfected during the 1000 years?
2. How is the maturing process and where will they be during this time period?

The Bema Seat Judgement IS where rewards are given out. There is no further need of a 'maturity period' after this event.

Rev 21:16 gives the length and width of the New Jerusalem which ascends from Heaven. Rev 21:17 gives further detailed description of the New Jerusalem. It sure looks real to me. Of course, those who still have their earthly bodies can't enter. It's the home of the saints(incorruptible bodies) after all. It will also be here through eternity. At the end of the 1000 years millennial kingdom, there will be a new heaven & earth, but New Jerusalem remains.

If you want to discuss, discuss, no need to be sarcastic to me. I don't need it.

Wow. So emotional.

But then it seems that when you do the same to others. You can just sweep it under the carpet.