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Bible Devotions with UW

The Waiting Game



No it's not the Hunger Game
The waiting game.

You'll be surprise to know the people of God back in the old testament experienced the same thing that we do today.
Sometime God doesn't act, move, speak or answer. Just as the Psalmist pen this word; I wait for the LORD, my whole being waits, and in his word I put my hope.
What does this mean? He too was waiting for God to act and to answer. He says MY WHOLE BEING waits. This is really a deep longing of wait.

And I can understand the frustration because these are the panic moments, the pain moment that none of us are willing to go through.
During my physically painful moment of almost 6 month of coughing with blood and without voice, I asked God, when you're going to heal me?
But during this painful moment of God not answering me healing, I heard the Lord voice more when I was without problems in life.

He said: Son are you willing to give up singing for my sake even if you don't have a voice to sing during worship or to worship lead? I understood his meaning. Am I willing to give what matters in my life to God, even the things that I like most. I said Yes. As long as I know it's from you, I'm willing. During this time I ate better than I did, was more careful of my food intake than I did before.

Started to drink Warm and Hot water MORE frequent than I use to drink Ice Cold water all the time. My health improved, my body mass fine tune but the weirdest thing I couldn't accept is that despite of my health improving, my voice haven't come back. There's still spasm of cough with blood but it wasn't that bad as before because before that it was painful.

I waited for God. For almost 6 months I couldn't sing during worship and I couldn't worship lead. It's very frustrating on my part because this is my passion in my life's devotion to God. It was then I got this warm inclination from God to keep on pressing deeper into Prayer, trust and rest with God. During this difficult moments I got more aggressive in my Faith towards the Lord. Yes there are moments when I felt like giving up and I did for few days before coming back to my senses. Yes there are moments of feeling down and pain and tears. But at the end of it all, God held me up in his grace in the sense I didn't totally abandoned it all. My Faith.

So what is my point in the waiting game? What do you do when there is silence from God?
Keep yourself busy in the Lord. You read the Bible, absorb his word, Be nice to the people in your surrounding (Love your enemies),
You keep praying and you keep resting in God. You keep trusting God in the silent period.
You will be surprise how much can learn during times like this as I did above. Your experience will Strengthen you to face life challenges ahead.

The Bible promises, crying may endure for the night but JOY comes in the morning! What God is saying is that our Painful tribulation is only for a moment.
God's Salvation and his promises is SURE TO COME! We wait. And His HEALING DID COME! Hallelujah!

I wait for the LORD, my whole being waits, and in his word I put my hope.

God Bless.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Oct 1 2014, 04:14 PM

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Petrol went up 20c by midnight

Contemplating to share devotion on how God will provide..................

I thought they'll just rip a new hole in you. Hard to tell if it's throwing pearls to a swine or not.

It'll be nice if they are okay with it but eh, /k/.

Even in outside Churches is like that.

Sometimes You will get some fellas writing email to Pastor saying he is theological wrong bla bla.

There's always this type in almost every Church.

We just move in with our lives.

JACOB - BEING CHOSEN

One of the most interesting people in the book of Genesis is Jacob. Genesis gives us the record of nine great persons. The first five—Adam, Abel, Enosh, Enoch, and Noah—are considered as five separate people. Although there was some spiritual relationship between them, strictly speaking, Adam, Abel, Enosh, Enoch, and Noah have nothing to do with each other. However, when we come to the last four—Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and Joseph—we see that, as far as the experience of life is concerned, they should not be considered as four separate individuals.

With Abraham we do not have the matter of selection. The first item in Abraham's record is calling. But according to the New Testament revelation, the experience of God does not begin with God's calling but with His selection. Firstly, God selected us; secondly, He predestinated us; and thirdly, He called us. After God's calling, we have forgiveness, redemption, justification, regeneration, and God's full salvation. In this we can see that with Abraham we do not have the beginning of the experience of God. The beginning is with Jacob, for in him we see God's selection. In Jacob's record, however, we do not find God's calling. Therefore, we say once again that Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob plus Joseph are not four separate persons; they are four aspects of one complete experience in life. Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob with Joseph each represent an aspect of the experience of life. As we shall see, Jacob stands for the transformed life and Joseph represents the ruling aspect, the kingly aspect, of this transformed life.

According to the New Testament revelation, the believers were firstly chosen by God in eternity past before the foundation of the world (Eph. 1:4). Secondly, the believers were predestinated according to God's selection. This also took place in eternity past. Then, in time, God called us. In God's calling, which follows His predestination, we receive forgiveness, redemption, justification, regeneration, and full salvation. In addition to all this, we must be transformed. Day by day we are under the process of God's transformation to be brought not only into the full sonship but also into the kingship. We were born sons of God, the royal sons, and we are undergoing the process of God's transformation that in the future we might be kings.

We do not see the kingship with either Abraham or Isaac. The kingship is with Joseph, who was a part of Jacob. When Jacob was welcomed in Egypt, apparently Pharaoh was the king over the world. Actually, the true reigning one was Joseph, not Pharaoh. But Joseph did not stand for himself; he stood for his father. Thus, at that time, the world was ruled by Jacob through Joseph.

All the saints are under the process of transformation in order to become kings. Hence, the proper, adequate, and complete experience of God goes from God's selection to our kingship. Selection was accomplished in eternity past, and the kingship will be for eternity future. Kingship is our destiny. In eternity past, God selected and predestinated us to be kings in eternity future. With Abraham we see neither the selection in eternity past nor the kingship in eternity future. In other words, Abraham's record has neither the beginning nor the ending of the experience of God, both of which are with Jacob. In Jacob's record, we have a very good beginning and also an adequate ending. Jacob, the heel-holder, the supplanter, was transformed into a prince of God. Eventually, he became Israel and was no longer Jacob. If we read the New Testament carefully, we shall see that the name of Israel ultimately appears in the New Jerusalem (Rev. 21:12). Although Israel is in the New Jerusalem, the names of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob are not found there.

^Mankind began in Africa, no particular human race is Superior (though particular culture/marriage may limit genetic variance of a group), by basic human rights no one can claim dominion over other individuals be it Kings, Sultans, Emperors, Tsars or Pharoahs.

This post has been edited by BeastX: Oct 2 2014, 09:01 AM

Bible Devotions with UW

God's providence



I can preach this because by the grace of God, this verse has been true and it has been a wonderful and of many great blessings in my life.
God is Faithful, He is a good God who loves to give good gifts to his children and I am here to testify of his goodness.

God did not bless me with this wisdom of this promise to keep to myself, but to share with others how you too can partake in his blessing.

We all have heard many things when it comes to God Providences.

1. Don't seek the hand of God.
2. You must be those upper category super spiritual religious to receive.
3. You can't received anything from God because you're a sinful person.
4. This is prosperity teaching, heresy.
5. It never happened to me so it can't be true.
6. God wants me to remain in poverty to teach me humility.
7. He only provide when necessary.
8. He gives but barely enough.
9. It's wrong to seek God's blessing.
10. I've not obeyed God enough so I can't receive.
11. <Insert whatever reasons>

Here's the first thing you need to do, THROW ALL OF THAT out of your system of believe.
It's not in the Bible, those are the words of Man, People. The sayings of Man trying to rationalize God's word.
The problem with Man is that they try to be Holier than God, trying to outdo God by adding something that is not there.

That is what happened to Eve when She answered to the Devil
"‘You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die.’ ” (Genesis 3:3)
God never said you can't touch it or you will die (Genesis 2:17). She added that on her own.

This is the same problem we have today by religious people who have may good intention
but the problem is, when you add in additions to God's word, it causes God's truth not to Truth anymore but mixture of dirt and half truth.
This is how cults are born.

Years ago, when I heard such sayings, it sounds good and it sound "religiously sound".
But Little did I know, these sayings are really a hindrance. When I heard God's inner prompting: Son is that what I really said in my words?
That stirred me to checked out every detail in the Bible. I couldn't find any of those saying. And I heard this prompting again:
"When you have a wrong perspective of Me (meaning his word), it hinders the blessings"

Lets take a good look at Philippians 4:19, what does it say? Can we just come to it in it's pure form and try not to add anything.

Philippians 4:19: And my God will meet all your needs according to the riches of his glory in Christ Jesus.

1. God WILL meet. I want you to Stop here and accept this as it is. Will means WILL! Not maybe, NOT 50-50.

2. ALL your needs. I want you to Stop here and accept this as it is. ALL MEANS ALL NEEDS. Not just 10% of this, a little of that, NO, ALL MEAN ALL OF YOUR NEEDS.

3. ACCORDING to the riches of his glory in Christ Jesus. I want you to Stop here and accept this as it is. Not according to the current economic situation. Not according to what the government is doing, Not according to the recent petrol increase. Not to according to ANYTHING that's happening to this world but according to his RICHES in Glory in Christ Jesus. I don't care if the economic Market crash. But but UW, if the market crash there's stagnant buying and selling, how can money flow? See? again you are trying to rationalize God's word. This is why our battle always have to do with our Faith.

What is this actually? according to the riches of his glory in Christ Jesus. The word Glory in the Greek is doxa. In the Strong concordance it can be define as splendor of God or divine quality of God.

Here is the secret to this revelation. Understand how much God the Father Glorified Jesus ie; In his finish work. Do you see the son of God lesser or greater than the servant (Moses - the Law)? Do you accept that his finished at the cross is eternal redemption? Do you see that He is able to completely Saved you from your sins? If you still feel that what Christ did is lesser than what Adam did, in the sense that you're not sure Jesus is able to completely saved you or not, you don't see Him glorified in that sense. This is just 1 example.

Or perhaps you don't feel that God loves you completely, you still have this sense of unknown fear. This is another example.
How much you have the revelation that Christ is glorified, is how much your faith is open to receive.
The truth of the foundation of this verse is, God the Father has INDEED Richly Glorified Christ Jesus whether you like it or not.

Read the verse as it is and have Faith, that's all. Don't rationalize, don't add in what you've heard, discard it.
Ask to Holy Spirit to do a Holy Cleansing of your mind to read God's word as it is. Ask his help to remove the sayings of Man.
When I changed (repent) my perspective of God of who He is and his word and simply believe that He loves and WILL indeed answer my prayer as He promised, his blessings start to flow.

I hope this will help you in this trying times as the cost of living has gone up but worry not my friends, Our Providence is from God, not Man and He provides according to the riches of his glory in Christ Jesus!

God Bless.

I want lahh... plenty of bible verses about GOD's promise, strengthening, but Jesus wanted to restrain me sharing at all. I believe HE has HIS divine reason.

My fingers already itchy2x wanna post , but i choose to make HIM happy by yielding to HIS will. Obedience.

By GOD's grace i could post anything i believe as long as it's Christian value.
I believe it's good to post how GOD will provide.
I can rebuke voices that simply restrain me to share on how GOD will provide,

but... i try to demonstrate to Our Heavenly Father, that, after all Grace and leverage HE has given me, including to disobey, i still can choose to obey. Still, I choose to obey under GOD's grace. Under GOD's providion... Not by might, not by power.

I like this. Praise God for he is immeasurably GOOD!

The seed is in Genesis:

Gen 1:26 And God said, Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of heaven and over the cattle and over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps upon the earth.

The line of image (becoming God's expression) and dominion (representing God) can be traced throughout the Bible.

The Experience of Jacob

Jacob was chosen before his birth, even before the foundation of the world (25:22-23; Rom. 9:11; Eph. 1:4). We, like Jacob, were also chosen before we were born. Our being chosen by God was according to His foreknowledge (1 Pet. 1:2; Rom. 8:29).

Not of His Own Strife

Jacob was not chosen by God of his own strife (25:22-23, 26). Likewise, our being chosen is not according to our struggling. Jacob was somewhat foolish. Of course, he did not have the knowledge that we have. If he had known that he had been chosen, he would have had no need to struggle and could have told Esau, "Esau, you may go out first. No matter who gets out first, I have been chosen. It does not matter how fast you are or how slow I am. The birthright is mine because I have been chosen." But because Jacob did not have this revelation, he struggled.

Not of His Own Works

Romans 9:11, referring to Jacob and Esau, says, "The children not yet being born, nor having done anything good or bad, (that the purpose of God according to selection might remain, not of works, but of Him who calls)." In this verse we see that Jacob's being chosen was not of his own works. Before the children had done neither good nor bad, God had told Rebekah, the mother, that the "greater shall serve the less" (Rom. 9:12). This proves that God's selection does not depend upon our works. Whether we are good or bad means nothing.

Of God Who Calls

Romans 9:13 says, "Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated." His selection does not depend on us; it is absolutely up to Him. It is not of our struggle or works, "but of Him who calls." We are not the Creator—He is.

Of God's Mercy

God's selection is also of God's mercy (Rom. 9:14-16). God said to Moses, "I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion" (Rom. 9:15). We all are the objects of God's mercy. How we thank Him that He has had mercy on us! "It is not of the one who wills, nor of the one who runs, but of God, the One who shows mercy" (Rom. 9:16).

Of God's Grace

God's selection is also of His grace (Rom. 11:5). It is somewhat difficult to understand mercy and grace as they are related to God's selection. Although we were selected and foreknown by God in eternity past, when God came to call us, we were in a pitiful situation, a situation which required God's mercy.

The enemy, the Devil, might have said to God, "Look at this one who is Your selection. How pitiful he is!" Then God might have said to Satan, "Satan, don't you realize that this is a very good opportunity for Me to show My mercy? Without such a pitiful person, how could I show My mercy? If everyone were perfect and up to your standard, I would have no one on whom to show mercy. Satan, this chosen one is the right one to be the object of My mercy." What about grace? As we have seen, grace is something of God wrought into our being. Although we were so pitiful, God did not reject us. Rather, regardless of Satan's accusations, He had mercy on us. God might have said to Satan, "Satan, I shall not only show mercy to My chosen ones, but I shall work Myself into them." When God is wrought into our being, that is grace. We are not only the objects of God's mercy; we are also the objects of His grace. We are under God's mercy, and His grace is within us.

This post has been edited by pehkay: Oct 7 2014, 05:45 PM

jacob your favorite bible character?

Very unfortunately, the bible does not agree with you.
Hebrews
20 By faith Isaac blessed Jacob and Esau concerning things to come.

21 By faith Jacob, when he was a dying, blessed both the sons of Joseph; and worshipped, leaning upon the top of his staff.

Also, how did God "deal" with Jacob?

Care to explain?

It was a very nice "exegesis" anyway.

This post has been edited by sylar111: Oct 3 2014, 10:38 AM

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But I search more, I realize that some discourage Christian to go for it.

http://www.gotquestions.org/hypnosis-Christian.html

What do you guys think?

This post has been edited by ngaisteve1: Oct 3 2014, 10:53 AM

This is intrinsically link to the Glory of God given to Adam at the beginning, I'm preparing for this message anyway.

Later, once you have settled some questions asked here. Someone PM me too, not really understanding about Jacob.

Never went for it, my spirit don't feel comfortable about it.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Oct 3 2014, 10:57 AM

You mentioned that the world was ruled by Jacob through Joseph. But then, any scriptural evidence that Jacob was actually ruling. I mean Jacob only managed to reunite with Joseph towards the end of his life. So how was the world being ruled by Jacob.

Jacob = Israel.
And your point being?