haha,but after gave to parents left not much to save lo..
woo.he's doing quite good, mind to share which field?
and thanks for giving us some hope..haha..
sometime feel lost in engineering especially after saw those ppl in sg finance earn so much.

hmm. i think 1.8k 10 yrs ago is like 2.3k nw?hmm.
but 1 thing i realized is that spore company dun really hire degree, diploma is sufficient for them, so unless got into MNC, degree gt nt much advantages in spore..maybe yes for later on, but not for freshie..

I also felt lost in engineering at time. Always envy of those in banking like deodorant. But also good lar, he give me motivation to strive harder !

No it makes a difference.

For diploma, mostly will be technician/engineering assistant only. If want progress to Engineer still need a degree in engineering.

For freshie... Ya, not much difference. But the career path will be different although I'm not so sure if diploma grad can climb higher to become engineer or not.

In M'sia, diploma stuck as technician, if good at climbing can be managerial post la but not technical (like can't get Ir). In SG I still not sure. Maybe will check on it later see where I'm at

Btw... Anyone here familiar with PEB (Professional Engineer Board) in SG? Any idea whether they accept M'sian Degree or not. From their website, I read that any degree under their own region/country accredited by their own board is recognised. For M'sia, it's BEM. I'm sure my degree is recognised by BEM but is it recognised by PEB?

Engineer, unlike lawyer and doctor, there is no bylaw stated that must be degree holder.
Most of the engineering job in s'pore, especially M&E or marine all stated diploma is sufficient, and got a title with engineer.
The only difference is after you wanna climb managerial role..

bro, refer Washington accord, course accredited by EAC aka IEM will be accredited by IES as well..
you wanna take PE? what's ur major?

I'm not sure about Singapore but actually in Malaysia you need a degree to register with BEM in order to be called engineer. No way a diploma grad can become an official engineer in M'sia. But in the real world, anything is possible la  Coz BEM won't really go check every company. You go those electronics company even like Intel... All engineers is true la... But maybe 90% not registered with BEM so they're actually practising engineering illegally.

I know this for M'sia just not sure for SG la. I work in construction company. Major E&E.

Just read around first la... Where got so easy be PE. Experience also need 4 years from what I read. If got the chance sure go for it la. Get PE from SG then can come back MY take some test and practice PE in M'sia too (I think is like that la ) Else if leave SG back to MY need accumulate experience again in order to take PE exam in M'sia.

er..that's on paper only..there are a lot of diploma holders with good experience getting position as engineer..and i've no problem on that, i think they deserved..
aiya, BEM say only, never enforce like lawyer or doctor..what to do...

icic...E&E u should get PE, i am from ME major, PE jus for title only...you can be consultant later on...
i last time oso interned in m&E company, and m&e seems to be the easiest 1 to get in s'pore as their own ppl dun wanna work at site..haha
yea....if u wan ur exp in sg to be counted, u nid to work in msia for at least 1 yr 1st...

Btw... Anyone here familiar with PEB (Professional Engineer Board) in SG? Any idea whether they accept M'sian Degree or not. From their website, I read that any degree under their own region/country accredited by their own board is recognised. For M'sia, it's BEM. I'm sure my degree is recognised by BEM but is it recognised by PEB?

From what I heard from friends from Malaysia, only UM can direct go for PEB exams. For others like UTM etc, they have to take a post grad in NUS or NTU. 4 years, 2 exams, 1 interview. Malaysia one now how? I read BEM website got exam then stop reading already  . The washington accord not sure how its work. That is few years ago, now I not sure.

Degrees from engineering degree programmes which are conducted within the country or region in the first column and accredited by the accrediting organisation in the second column —
AUSTRALIA Engineers Australia 1st January 1989
CANADA The Canadian Engineering Accreditation Board of Engineers Canada 1st January 1989
FRANCE Commission des Titres d'Ingénieur, France 1st January 1991
HONG KONG Hong Kong Institution of Engineers 1st January 1995
IRELAND The Institution of Engineers of Ireland 1st January1989
JAPAN Japan Accreditation Board for Engineering Education 1st January 2005
MALAYSIA Board of Engineers Malaysia 1st January 2009
NEW ZEALAND Institution of Professional Engineers New Zealand 1st January 1989
REPUBLIC OF KOREA Accreditation Board for Engineering Education of Korea 1st January 2007
SINGAPORE Engineering Accreditation Board of the Institution of Engineers, Singapore 1st January 2006
SOUTH AFRICA Engineering Council of South Africa 1st January 1999
TAIWAN Institute of Engineering Education Taiwan 1st January 2007
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA The Engineering Accreditation Commission of the Accreditation Board for Engineering and Technology, Inc 1st January 1989

©  in the case of a qualification alluded to in Division I of Part IV of the Schedule —
(i)  the qualification is awarded upon graduation after the completion of a full-time undergraduate engineering degree programme of not less than 4 years;
(ii)  the qualification is accredited by the accrediting organisation as fully meeting the academic requirements for registration as a professional engineer; and
(iii)  the qualification is supplemented by a post-graduate qualification acceptable to the Board, if it is awarded before the date specified in the third column of that Division, unless it is a qualification specified in Division II of that Part or alluded to in Division III or IV of that Part;

Anyway... It's still too early to discuss this. Let's see how I progress down the road first. ME also can get PE mah... When you work in construction related industry, you must know everything from civil, mechanical and electrical one. Everything must be harmony else sure got problem one.

Don't be site engineer can d

But if already get PE in SG then different story right Don't know la... See how If start in M'sia also susah la... Later baru start work already start starving.

Oh... Nvm... Time not there yet.

But from what I read...

http://app.peb.gov.sg/Html/pe_approved.html
Maybe it takes a lawyer to understand these. Can't they put it in layman's term? 
Hmm...
Qualifications specified in Schedule - if refer to Part IV Division I,
and
then supposed we should be able to register as PE with our degree awarded after 1st January 2009.
I think that's why your friends need to take post grad. Since you all probably graduated much earlier than that date
My interpretation of their content should be correct right?

Oh... Nvm... Time not there yet.

But from what I read...

http://app.peb.gov.sg/Html/pe_approved.html
Maybe it takes a lawyer to understand these. Can't they put it in layman's term? 
Hmm...
Qualifications specified in Schedule - if refer to Part IV Division I,
and
then supposed we should be able to register as PE with our degree awarded after 1st January 2009.
I think that's why your friends need to take post grad. Since you all probably graduated much earlier than that date
My interpretation of their content should be correct right?

but mechanical gt nth to approve, unlike civil or ele PE, that's why for title only..haha
er..you gotta start from site la..else u gt no site experience, easily get backstab from ppl..haha
The 1st quote is the Washington accord I mentioned lo..as stated, if you took ur degree after the stated date and it is recorgnized by BEM, yes it is recognized in sg too.

Ooo should be correct. Ya I think he graduated before 2009 so need to take some post grad. Better start taking the 1st exam since still fresh out of school, after a while forgot all the things.

Nvm... Got PE more syok mah

Yeah... Washington accord... Learned that during uni time.
Btw... Do we have to register with any professional body to practice engineering in SG? Something like BEM?
I just 3 months out from Uni, that day attend course for construction got some test already showing the sign of age My final year also quite honeymoon actually... Not many papers as I pushed them ahead. Focus on project mostly.
Hmm... No need further study post grad. A good news for me But I'm uncertain if I'll carry on for that long period of time here

Er...that 1 I'm not sure, I think there should be something like BEM is SG as well..
I m still at dilemma what to do..if wana do M&E last time my intern company in Msia giv quite good benefit as well
I am still tinking where to work 

Nvm... Rest well first. Now I'm thinking I haven't rest enough

haha, cnt la..i done my final on feb...dragged quite long ad..hahaha

Oh... Feb I finished mine in May.

haha, so quite late ad lo..but I actually went overseas.july only back..but looking at most of my friends who done at may started to work make me stress.haha

Some of my friends... Early may finish project/finals... Mid may almost whole course go grad trip. Back from trip end of May. 1st June start work d. Some mid june or 1st July. I also stress