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post Sep 5 2014, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(sheng291 @ Sep 5 2014, 12:56 PM)
hmm..that's 1 problem I realized as an engineer. Most of the time we don't have special skills, only experiences can talks.
It is very hard to be unique in engineering field.
Hmm..I do see that pay cut is unavoidable ,but will it be better if I take a lower salary in SG and work from there?
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It work both ways, I am offered lower salary say 2 SGD to 1 RM seeking a job at home. BEM say engineers' experience in Malaysia only recognised after registering as graduate engineer.
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post Sep 5 2014, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(JohnJon82 @ Sep 5 2014, 02:50 PM)
It work both ways, I am offered lower salary say 2 SGD to 1 RM seeking a job at home. BEM say engineers' experience in Malaysia only recognised after registering as graduate engineer.
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So you took the offer and worked in SG now?
Yea I aware, but that's only for PE registration right? for job application people don't really care about that.
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post Sep 5 2014, 03:31 PM

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So you took the offer and worked in SG now?
Yea I aware, but that's only for PE registration right? for job application people don't really care about that.
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Nope, I am the other way round. Worked here after graduation. Want to go back Malaysia. Nope still stuck in SG.
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post Sep 5 2014, 03:39 PM

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Nope, I am the other way round. Worked here after graduation. Want to go back Malaysia. Nope still stuck in SG.
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haha, why don't want stay in s'pore? people trying to go there, u trying to come back XD
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post Sep 5 2014, 04:45 PM

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QUOTE(knwong @ Sep 5 2014, 02:35 PM)
S'pore government intend to build/attract knowledge based economy or service oriented business.

So if you are in those line of work, such as banking, F&B, retail, tourism - chances to get PR is higher.

I heard many cases those in manufacturing line, PRship is hard to get. Slowly this industry is moving out due to high cost
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true to that.... and they squeeze every drop out of us too sad.gif
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post Sep 5 2014, 05:11 PM

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is there some scale of salary that i can compare or measure? i'm getting an offer, not sure if it is good or not. as i dont know how expensive SG will be.
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post Sep 5 2014, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(sheng291 @ Sep 5 2014, 03:39 PM)
haha, why don't want stay in s'pore? people trying to go there, u trying to come back XD
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Different priorities biggrin.gif .
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post Sep 5 2014, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(JohnJon82 @ Sep 5 2014, 05:23 PM)
Different priorities  biggrin.gif .
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haha,ok, but then being a SG grad and worked in sg before, you will sure get good offers here.
I actually don't really like to go SG work as well, but being born in JB...haiz...haha
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QUOTE(night_wolf_in @ Sep 5 2014, 05:11 PM)
is there some scale of salary that i can compare or measure? i'm getting an offer, not sure if it is good or not. as i dont know how expensive SG will be.
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The FIRST POST on this thread contains the monthly EXPENSES...from there you can roughly gauge...on how much you can save or not
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post Sep 5 2014, 05:36 PM

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QUOTE(tailtwist @ Sep 5 2014, 05:28 PM)
The FIRST POST on this thread contains the monthly EXPENSES...from there you can roughly gauge...on how much you can save or not
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i read the first post. so yeah, still not very clear.

lets say i make XX RM when i go there, should i expect XX in SGD or it will be lower/higher than XX here? were XX is the arbitrary numerical value.
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post Sep 5 2014, 05:53 PM

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QUOTE(night_wolf_in @ Sep 5 2014, 05:36 PM)
i read the first post. so yeah, still not very clear.

lets say i make XX RM when i go there, should i expect XX in SGD or it will be lower/higher than XX here? were XX is the arbitrary numerical value.
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Normally you can expect lower XX in SGD if you are earning XX in MYR.

But with experience, sometimes you can get dollar to dollar XX value or even some increment sometimes. Case to Case basis.
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post Sep 5 2014, 05:55 PM

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QUOTE(hitsugaya2010 @ Sep 5 2014, 05:53 PM)
Normally you can expect lower XX in SGD if you are earning XX in MYR.

But with experience, sometimes you can get dollar to dollar XX value or even some increment sometimes. Case to Case basis.
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ah, that makes more sense. how much lower? 20% 40%? First offer i got from X company was 60% cut in XX. now, Y company is talking about 40% cut from my current XX. i feel this is a lot of cut
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QUOTE(night_wolf_in @ Sep 5 2014, 05:55 PM)
ah, that makes more sense. how much lower? 20% 40%? First offer i got from X company was 60% cut in XX. now, Y company is talking about 40% cut from my current XX. i feel this is a lot of cut
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Then it's up to you.

If let's say ur salary is 10k getting 40% cut, you earn around 6k sgd. If you are the type to convert, it's still more than your MYR salary and 6k sgd you can live an easy and wonderful life in Singapore (at least for me). If you do not have much commitments, I believe your expenses will be minimum around 1k SGD. Anything more than that, you can save. This is base on my own expenses, I do not go for entertainment much. sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif

Sometime companies in Singapore is trying to exploit foreign employees (especially Malaysian), they know Singapore currency is strong, therefore, they try to 'tekan' you as much as they can. But of course there are some good companies too. In this scenarios try to think what you really want.

1. Work and live in Singapore. (I do not think it's worth it for that salary cut)
2. Work for many many years, then go back Malaysia. (maybe worth it if you can save a lot)

Here the expenses is cheaper than Malaysia. (dollar to dollar). Food is cheaper (hawker), no need to pump petrol (public transportation), branded and good stuffs are cheaper. Of course there are things that is more expensive, example the room rent or if you want to buy a car.
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post Sep 5 2014, 06:19 PM

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QUOTE(hitsugaya2010 @ Sep 5 2014, 06:08 PM)
Then it's up to you.

If let's say ur salary is 10k getting 40% cut, you earn around 6k sgd. If you are the type to convert, it's still more than your MYR salary and 6k sgd you can live an easy and wonderful life in Singapore (at least for me). If you do not have much commitments, I believe your expenses will be minimum around 1k SGD. Anything more than that, you can save. This is base on my own expenses, I do not go for entertainment much.  sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif

Sometime companies in Singapore is trying to exploit foreign employees (especially Malaysian), they know Singapore currency is strong, therefore, they try to 'tekan' you as much as they can. But of course there are some good companies too. In this scenarios try to think what you really want.

1. Work and live in Singapore. (I do not think it's worth it for that salary cut)
2. Work for many many years, then go back Malaysia. (maybe worth it if you can save a lot)

Here the expenses is cheaper than Malaysia. (dollar to dollar). Food is cheaper (hawker), no need to pump petrol (public transportation), branded and good stuffs are cheaper. Of course there are things that is more expensive, example the room rent or if you want to buy a car.
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thanks, this is all very informative. I can see how they want to exploit. That exactly what i felt when i had the call. I'm not even malaysian, so yeah. i will work and live in Singapore. I guess i need to have better negotiation skills. lol


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post Sep 5 2014, 06:21 PM

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QUOTE(night_wolf_in @ Sep 5 2014, 06:19 PM)
thanks, this is all very informative. I can see how they want to exploit. That exactly what i felt when i had the call. I'm not even malaysian, so yeah. i will work and live in Singapore. I guess i need to have better negotiation skills. lol
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mind to share where you are from and which field you are in?
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QUOTE(night_wolf_in @ Sep 5 2014, 05:55 PM)
ah, that makes more sense. how much lower? 20% 40%? First offer i got from X company was 60% cut in XX. now, Y company is talking about 40% cut from my current XX. i feel this is a lot of cut
rather than trying to cut here cut there, benchmark your offer $ amount against what the market is paying to see if it's fair or not lo. http://stats.mom.gov.sg/Pages/Occupational...ables-2012.aspx
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Anyone know when a SPR couple buy resale hdb, the 3 years waiting rule applied to both husband and wife or anyone from them has obtained pr more than 3 years is good enough?
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post Sep 6 2014, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(poor_engineer @ Sep 6 2014, 10:27 AM)
Anyone know when a SPR couple buy resale hdb, the 3 years waiting rule applied to both husband and wife or anyone from them has obtained pr more than 3 years is good enough?
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I think it's both.. =)
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post Sep 6 2014, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(poor_engineer @ Sep 6 2014, 10:27 AM)
Anyone know when a SPR couple buy resale hdb, the 3 years waiting rule applied to both husband and wife or anyone from them has obtained pr more than 3 years is good enough?
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you need two ppl to buy, so it applies to both. I think by the time 3 years is almost up since it was announced, they probably gonna extent it to 5 maybe ?
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QUOTE(poor_engineer @ Sep 6 2014, 10:27 AM)
Anyone know when a SPR couple buy resale hdb, the 3 years waiting rule applied to both husband and wife or anyone from them has obtained pr more than 3 years is good enough?

QUOTE(hitsugaya2010 @ Sep 6 2014, 10:42 AM)
I think it's both.. =)

QUOTE(Mackiddo @ Sep 6 2014, 10:53 AM)
you need two ppl to buy, so it applies to both. I think by the time 3 years is almost up since it was announced, they probably gonna extent it to 5 maybe ?


hitsu and 7 for all mankind are correct, it applies to both. so if your PR > 10 years but your wife PR today approve u still gotta wait 3 years.

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