How does SPRship limit the income to $2500?? The education for a PR child is definitely cheaper compare to international student's rate. Degree vs Diploma Any difference with or without PR??

Convert your pay as well then you will feel great

Work permit unable to apply for PR under PTS scheme. And also problem getting phone contract or applying credit card.

Shouldn't compare chinaman in Sg to mnc in Msia. I don't thk engineering in sg paying lesser.

Also lower pay might be harder to get pr. My batch graduated from Msia uni, starting base pay around $3-4k, took average two years to get the approval.

Anyway, good luck in job hunting!

From my experience, MNCs have no preference over Sgrean or foreigner. But there is difference in pay for different academic background. For engineering, Sg local uni i.e. NTU/NUS grad usually paid $200-300 higher than Msia uni regardless of nationality.

Under the recent policy, any EP job has to be opened for Sgrean first! But the fact for engineering, there is not many Sgrean interested to work in this industry. So eventually will go back to open job market. That policy makes the hiring process longer.

So, YES, foreigner is harder to get job due to the gov policy but not company preference. And NO, that you are not getting lower pay for similar competency.

Job ads on public sites not necessary opened for foreigner, they could be still under Fair Consideration Framework. Of course there might be other reason e.g. company receiving training grant which only available for citizen/pr. But you should be able to look for jobs that do not specify nationality. I just browsed through jobstreet and there are tons though many of them do not include salary guideline.

Hmm no harm to start working in Msia first. Just to share my exp, I applied only one MNC in Sg when I started my last semester and then the first phone interview only happened during my final exam. At that time I had gone through 8 jobs interview in Msia offered 6 out of 8. I even signed the the offer from a Penang MNC but still took the opportunity to came down to Sg for the face to face interview. In the end I decided to start my career in Sg considering Sg is actually nearer to my hometown. 3 years gone... I still in the same company. Sometime really feel difficult to return to Msia

This post has been edited by poor_engineer: Sep 5 2014, 12:15 PM

Transferring exp from Msia to Sg may not be as straight forward especially for common engineering jobs. A lot people took "pay cut" as for example RM5000 to $3500. This example happens frequently to engineer in mid exp. Some people might think the pay increases looking at the currency but that actually means downgrading from senior to junior pay. This will not happen if you are in critical/unique skill set position such r&d but for most of the time employers will discount the experience from Msia partly due to higher competitive environment in Sg.

Anyone know when a SPR couple buy resale hdb, the 3 years waiting rule applied to both husband and wife or anyone from them has obtained pr more than 3 years is good enough?

Imagine you earning $4000 at second or third year, how much pay cut can you take if you decided to come back to Msia? Would you happy with RM5000 by that time? Going back to Msia is always difficult. Quite impossible at least for me

1. Agree with this but the housing in KL/Penang/JB not cheap also, in the end still squeeze in small room.
2. Nobody can earn enough money. Your lifestyle change with your income.
3. People work in KL easily more stressful than SG due to the low buying power income.
4. Come back to the point you work for money or rank?

I think normally people who afford to go back are mostly non exec workers. OT to max, earn first bucket of gold then go back to start small business. No way for a factory worker to go back to become manager in Msia, and don't think they like to work similar labour jobs in Msia. Ppl who start with exec level normally get PR after few years, then buy hdb to settle down. You ask them go back while leaving whole bunch of cpf in Sg , earn half to at most 3 quarter of their current pay. Not many can do that lor...

Sarawak is a lovely place. Things not expensive yet. My friend work in Jurong Shipyard, 3rd year bought second landed house already. I think he can go back very soon.

Actually Sg is not bad la. Now I need to decide whether to move to USA but don't think I will do that. Better life quality is state but need to leave family far across the pacific ocean. And I realize working in Sg can save more for retirement due to strong cpf and much lower tax. In my thought, possible to move to any country but not 1-Malay-sia.

Finally Msia able to attract talent from Sg

Don't worry about the tax as long as you continue to work in Sg. For my experience the tax bill didn't come in the second year when my first year was less than 183days. Only on the third year I received the assessment notice for both first year (<183days) and second year (365days) and everything taxed as per resident rate. In fact my first year tax was so low because the income just surpassed $20k little bit due to only few months salary. The non resident tax only applied to people who leave Sg before 183days and IRAS will order HR to withhold the last month salary in order to clear the tax balance.

Need to factor in AWS and bonus ma... I'm a low paid engineer

Pro rated only. Pretty standard practice in most companies.

Old town la. Worse is they don't include GST into menu price. A bit misleading when the final price is higher than the menu

I'm one of the cheap labour here