Hence the recent rumors that PS4.5 is on the way, a half-gen console mainly for the purposes of VR. That also kinda confirm our concern that existing PS4 is not really up to task for VR, it can't produce 1080p at 60fps while generating 2 screens, unless the graphic complexity like number of polygons, shading and high textures are tuned down just like what they did to make Driveclub run for PSVR. Sony has also warn consumers to tune down their expectation and not compare PSVR to Occulus Rift or others as they are really products of different performance level given the big price difference. PSVR is simply a budget entry price point gaming VR with drawbacks in terms of picture quality (resolution, field of view, fps).
PS4 can't even produce 4k picture for normal gaming, and struggling to maintain steady 60fps/30fps for 1080p on some beautiful game, so expecting 4k output on PSVR which rely on PS4 is totally absurd. Also PSVR spec is only 1080p.

This post has been edited by iGamer: Mar 21 2016, 09:24 AM

PSVR definitely won't be supporting PS3 (for VR gaming, cinema mode perhaps?), even PS4 itself is push to its hardware limit to run VR, least to say PS3. The rumor of potential PS4.5 coming out to better support VR saids a lot about the demanding graphical performance on the console. For VR, the console actually needs to produce simultaneous 2 screens (for left and right eyes view at different angle).

This post has been edited by iGamer: Mar 21 2016, 09:51 AM

can a dual 7870 run at 4k?? also can that puny mobile CPU run dual 7870 without/minimize bottleneck at 4k?
Sony better make it as add on rather than separate new console. coz fcuk you Sony if I can't play & enjoy your latest AAA exclusive games coz I didn't buy it.
Its a FCUKING console for godsake, NOT a PC. I buy a console for plug & play.

I read back the comment, seems the VR will have very less market share, and may fail like the 3D TV, 3D game case.
It is not related to slow user adoption rate, but rather, the virtual reality stuff viewed on our eye, generated by the headset screen, is not very comfortable to our eye.
The point like cannot use it for long hour is very correct and true, it will hurt our eye in long time usage.

My experience with the smartphone VR is, I only can wear them for a few minute.
The longer I use, the more headache and eye strain I feel, simply feel dizzy and want to faint.
The feeling is much worse than wearing 3D glass for 3D movie watching.

The glass free 3D, seen on Nintendo 3DS, and HTC Evo 3D smartphone, also is distracting to my eye after long watching., I simply turn off the 3D effect to stop eye fatigue.

So, 3D, virtual reality stuff still need much more work on the refinement before really able to work comfortably.
Or, they may not even have any bright future, as they post health issue on the usage.

That is actually valid concern, my myopia were steady for few years already, then I bought 3d TV and my myopia escalated after a while, I suspect it's due to use of 3d TV. The headache you have with those smartphone VR box could be made worst due to poor quality of the plastic/glass lens used, the pricier VR gogles would use higher precision lens though with less distortion compare to those RM100 VR box.

the glass used esp in google cardboard is cheap quality la......

http://www.11street.my/product/ProductDeta...&tid=1400016030

now you can pre-order a US/JP set for RM2899

can buy 2 PS4 with that price already

Day light robbery, a USD399 product sold at RM2899, that's equivalent to a forex rate of 7.27. Our ringgit to USD rate today is only 4.04.

I read somewhere on the web that Sony has acknowledged a package with PSVR and camera (not sure of the move controller) at USD500. That would cost over RM2,000 even at our current forex translation.

it came with PS Camera and 2 Move stick and some demo games

for USD500, slap on the shipping & GST, I would say it's around there

Some early adopters don't mind paying such money

This post has been edited by greyshadow: Mar 21 2016, 11:47 AM

A PS4 is basically a PC in chains. I don't know why you'd be so surprised if Sony were to do this? It's been bound to happen since the PS2 days, I'm actually surprised it takes this long for it to be set in motion. Besides, Sega already did it in the 90s.


That's the US and Canada pre-order only packages. Nothing to do with us, for now. You're still paying much less than a a Vive or Rift setup irregardless and no one said VR will be cheap.

Actually Sony did try to mislead consumers when they announced their USD399 pricing, to give a false perception that their VR is much cheaper than the other alternatives. They purposely delay the announcement of the USD500 package so that all media would report the USD399 price tags even though that is a very uneven comparison with competitors as the competitors price tags actually contain the full working package (headgear + external camera/unit) required to run the VR. A fair comparison of the price tags is actually PSVR at USD500 compared with USD600 of the Oculus Rift If Sony had announce the USD399 and USD500 package together, all the medias would likely quote the USD500 when making their comparison with other competitors. That is business tactic.

Definitely getting PSVR, already have the PS Camera and even the PS Move, easy transition

Actually I was interested in playing ps move game, but I don't have a ps3, any of the ps3 move game that can be played on ps4?

Now that you remind me about this i'm really sadden by it.. Like no developers is making anymore PS Move games for a while now.
Especially on the PS4, considering it still works with the PS4 with the PS Camera.

I know a few PS Move games for the PS4, like Just Dance, Octodad: Dadliest Catch, the free PS Camera game(if you bought the PS Camera), Sportsfriends and LittleBigPlanet 3.
Others not so sure, hopefully after PSVR is out, the support will be more, cuz developers kinda remembered the PS Move exist

just hope sony malaysia got PO for the psvr.

eh.... so no Ape escape? The last playstation I had was the 1st generation ps, the first dual stick game that properly utilizes the dual shock controller was Ape Escape, the dual stick was a feature not utilized by most game back then, just like how the touch pad on DS4 is not utilized nowadays. Sony should have at least remastered or ported the PS3 move game (especially those produced by Sony) over to PS4.
I skipped 2 generation of ps and played Xbox original and Xbox 360 before coming back to Sony for PS4. I'm very dissapointed that many of the PS3 features (ps move, 3d gaming) is no longer supported on PS4

I thought move is optional
can use DS

pedulik WILL BUY!!!!

If it's something like how I tested using samsung VR device then definitely I won't be getting it. I rather be looking at a HD TV and enjoy nice graphics without straining my eyes over it. Who knows, it might even make my eyes worse.

Thats my opinion anyway, I tried watching movies 3D in the cinema once and I had a major headache after that. Not gonna go thru that again man