Too many variation of VR products coming out all at once.... the market is too small to begin with and there are numerous brands and models competing against each other. My prediction is most VR gadgets will die out in first 2 years (including Sony), end of the days VR will most likely live on as a niche gadget on PC.
I'm still feeling the burnt from my investment in a 3D TV after Sony dropped its support 3D gaming....

Funny way of tech gadgets evolution:
1) 3D TV/movie (people complained goofy looking specs, others complained headache)----FAILING, not enough good 3D movies after Avatar, most new 4k TV no longer bundle with 3D functionality.
2) 3D gaming (same problem above but compounded by the facts that the console hardware is not powerful enough to generate realistic graphic from 2 angles)------FAILED, Sony dropped its support after PS3, 3D gaming is almost non-existent on Xbox 360.
3) Motion tracking gaming- kinect and move----FAILED, no game developer managed to create games beyond the early gimmicky use.

Now comes VR, which is actually the combination of all the above failed attempts (3D + motion sensing) plus some more (head tracking view).
For the VR to have any chance of success where its "parents" failed, it should have the following breakthrough:
1) There must be CONTINUOUS SUPPLY of really good application (game/VR movie), if it is stuck at gimmicky application which only provide short term appeal, it will definitely fall flat just like 3D movie and motion gaming.
2) The gadgets must be quickly be made affordable after the initial "firs adopter pricing", the world economy has been gloomy for years (and doesn't seem to get any better), an expensive gimmicky gadget is the last thing most people would include in their budgets.

Stereoscopic 3D on 3D TV is already quite tiresome for the eyes for any movie that is close to 2 hours. I can't imagine hour plus or even longer gaming session staring at stereoscopic led screens/lens that are less than an inch away from our eye balls. People have literally gone blind for consistently staring at smart phone screen during bed time. Nowadays even the startup screen of the PS4 constantly reminding people to read the warning on health risk (no surprise after quite a number a sudden death associated with marathon gaming session).

I think the VR gadget manufacturer should include a time out feature in addition to the usual health warning in their gadgets if they wish to avoid be sued by consumers (especially in the West).

A large screen led tv nowadays cost less than RM1,000 if anyone wants to buy a dedicated TV for gaming. Just my 2 cents

The fundamental issues with artificial stereoscopic imagery is still there, the latest VR gadgets are nowhere near solving them (nor do I think they really put too much effort there). I've just read some interesting articles on the internet regarding concerns over VR, here's a good one http://venturebeat.com/2015/04/18/were-not...and-our-brains/

Since our current gen consoles are still limited to full HD resolutions (some games aren't even truly full HD), most led tv out there is suffice for the job (unless one is picky on latency). 4k gaming is at least years away (not limited by technology, but by the cost constraint taken into consideration by the console manufacturer).

Interesting warning by Samsung when they launched their VR gadget 2 years ago, quote "The risk doesn't stop after you're done using Gear VR either. Samsung's warning compares some of these symptoms to those experienced after getting off a cruise ship, in that they "can persist and become more apparent hours after use." Users could see "excessive drowsiness and decreased ability to multi-task" after using the Gear VR and shouldn't drive, operate heavy machinery, or undertake "visually or physically demanding activities that have potentially serious consequences" until those symptoms go away." Next time cops may need to stop and test drivers not just suspected of alcohol overdose, but perhaps even for VR overdose.... No kidding, last time I experienced awkwardness while driving after a session of adrenaline pumping race game (and that's not even VR....).

The PS Asia Blog mentioned global launch together with Asia but only indicated prices in yen so the launch in Asia is likely refering to Japan only. I guess Msia unlikely to get the it on launch date, Singapore may stand a better chance if Sony got enough unit produced.
https://asia.playstation.com/my/en/newsdetail?id=4263
This VR unit is launched as the PS4 already entered its 3rd year life cycle, unless Sony release statement that the same VR unit will be supported by the next PS5, if not it seems to be a rather short-lived gadget even if VR becomes a hit.

I just noticed that PS VR comes with cheap tiny earphones only, not the big earphone we always seen in the tech demo.
It shouldn't be that cost ineffective to include one right? There's plenty of China factory lining up to produce acceptable quality earphone for Sony at very low profit margin in today's bad economy. Those cheap tiny earphone will never be able to produce low bass and that totally decrease the "immersion level" that VR is suppose to create. Sony might as well just exclude the lowsy earphone and reduce the VR set price tag, good for environment too with less cheap earphone being thrown out of the window upon unboxing the shiny expensive gadget.

Well, your ps move is kinda given a second chance and being revived with ps VR
I have other concerns though in addition to how well the new gadget will be received by the market, like where to put this huge gadget when not used, and the concern with people tripping over the long cables connecting the VR set with the PS4 which is always placed near the TV.... I guess buying a big floor mat and hide the cable under the mat could be a solution.... but it is still pretty ridiculous as the last time I do that was with wired controllers from the era of xbox and ps1/2....... it's like we are going backwards with cables.....

Forgive me but I've never heard of hmz-t1 until I saw comments here and did a youtube search and saw that it is pretty sleek, looks like something from StarTrek...
I learnt that it is only 720p, so do you actually still use it for movie watching or you pretty much goes back to watching using TV? Is it straining on your eyes?

I watched some upcoming videos for Oculus Rift upcoming games, surprisingly many were kiddie games With the high end computer they required to run the Rift and the hefty price of the Rift at USD600, aren't they targeting the wrong consumers group?
I was expecting the Rift to have realistic looking games targeted at grown ups. By the looks of games line up, it seems that the Sony VR have better game line up (even though some games are multiplat with Rift).

Is there any PS4 game that currently utilizes the ps move? Are those game good? Too bad PS3 games can't run on PS4, that's a bummer considering Xbox One now can run most Xbox360 games with their awesome backward compatibility.

"less inferior"...... I assumed that's not the exact wordings used by Sony reps... Otherwise that reps should be fired

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This post has been edited by iGamer: Mar 18 2016, 09:37 AM

But my concern remain valid, those who spent big amount of money for Oculus Rift and a high end Pc to run it are either serious gamer or gadget junkies. Normal parent won't spent such money nor have the knowledge/dedication to set up such PC. These cheap opportunist games will more likely discourage interested PC users just like how Kinect's kiddie game discourage serious gamers from buying it.

Hence the recent rumors that PS4.5 is on the way, a half-gen console mainly for the purposes of VR. That also kinda confirm our concern that existing PS4 is not really up to task for VR, it can't produce 1080p at 60fps while generating 2 screens, unless the graphic complexity like number of polygons, shading and high textures are tuned down just like what they did to make Driveclub run for PSVR. Sony has also warn consumers to tune down their expectation and not compare PSVR to Occulus Rift or others as they are really products of different performance level given the big price difference. PSVR is simply a budget entry price point gaming VR with drawbacks in terms of picture quality (resolution, field of view, fps).
PS4 can't even produce 4k picture for normal gaming, and struggling to maintain steady 60fps/30fps for 1080p on some beautiful game, so expecting 4k output on PSVR which rely on PS4 is totally absurd. Also PSVR spec is only 1080p.

This post has been edited by iGamer: Mar 21 2016, 09:24 AM

PSVR definitely won't be supporting PS3 (for VR gaming, cinema mode perhaps?), even PS4 itself is push to its hardware limit to run VR, least to say PS3. The rumor of potential PS4.5 coming out to better support VR saids a lot about the demanding graphical performance on the console. For VR, the console actually needs to produce simultaneous 2 screens (for left and right eyes view at different angle).

This post has been edited by iGamer: Mar 21 2016, 09:51 AM

That is actually valid concern, my myopia were steady for few years already, then I bought 3d TV and my myopia escalated after a while, I suspect it's due to use of 3d TV. The headache you have with those smartphone VR box could be made worst due to poor quality of the plastic/glass lens used, the pricier VR gogles would use higher precision lens though with less distortion compare to those RM100 VR box.

Day light robbery, a USD399 product sold at RM2899, that's equivalent to a forex rate of 7.27. Our ringgit to USD rate today is only 4.04.

I read somewhere on the web that Sony has acknowledged a package with PSVR and camera (not sure of the move controller) at USD500. That would cost over RM2,000 even at our current forex translation.

Actually Sony did try to mislead consumers when they announced their USD399 pricing, to give a false perception that their VR is much cheaper than the other alternatives. They purposely delay the announcement of the USD500 package so that all media would report the USD399 price tags even though that is a very uneven comparison with competitors as the competitors price tags actually contain the full working package (headgear + external camera/unit) required to run the VR. A fair comparison of the price tags is actually PSVR at USD500 compared with USD600 of the Oculus Rift If Sony had announce the USD399 and USD500 package together, all the medias would likely quote the USD500 when making their comparison with other competitors. That is business tactic.