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University Monash University Thread V4, Malaysia & Aus Campus, QS 2016: 67!! THES 2016: 73!! up up up!!

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HawkreiN
post Nov 1 2014, 12:12 AM

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Just want to clear the air here:

QUOTE(dropboxid @ Oct 29 2014, 11:56 PM)
but different campus are providing different courses
so the employer will find that i am graduated from Malaysia which has lower entry requirement,isn't it?
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Your transcript will not state the campus of graduation. It will, however, state your subject codes and name of course, which the HR dept can use to infer the campus that you attended.

Does a lower entry requirement equate to lower quality graduates? Think.

QUOTE(BravoZeroTwo @ Oct 30 2014, 10:13 AM)
Are you saying that the quality of teaching and delivery results are different between Monash Malaysia and Monash Australia ?
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QUOTE(BravoZeroTwo @ Oct 30 2014, 02:31 PM)
That means Monash Australia still a better choice if one yearns for better education quality ? Thanks.
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BravoZeroTwo, from the phrasing of your questions, it is obvious that you are trying to reinforce your personal views between local and foreign campuses.

Yes it would differ, to an extent. But then again, even Monash campuses within Australia would differ (eg. Clayton vs Caulfield vs Berwick). Whether the delivery of the course if better depends on your learning style - Aus appears to promote more discussion (simply because local students tend to shy away from participation).

Personally, I feel that the quality/ insights of the lecturers make minimal impact at an undergraduate level, especially for a generic degree in commerce. But then again, your perception becomes your reality.
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post Nov 1 2014, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(itserin @ Oct 31 2014, 03:21 PM)
Yes, like lowyat. Or this:
https://www.xtremepapers.com/community/

Problem with lowyat is that it's an extremely wide net. Since Monash syllabus is really specific, it'd be great if there was a place to discuss each subject.

From your reaction, I'm guessing there's none.. but thank you anyway ^^
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hmm... i thought portal have a section for discussion although it is view able by the lecturer...
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post Nov 1 2014, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(HawkreiN @ Nov 1 2014, 01:12 AM)
Just want to clear the air here:
Your transcript will not state the campus of graduation. It will, however, state your subject codes and name of course, which the HR dept can use to infer the campus that you attended.

Does a lower entry requirement equate to lower quality graduates? Think.
BravoZeroTwo, from the phrasing of your questions, it is obvious that you are trying to reinforce your personal views between local and foreign campuses.

Yes it would differ, to an extent. But then again, even Monash campuses within Australia would differ (eg. Clayton vs Caulfield vs Berwick). Whether the delivery of the course if better depends on your learning style - Aus appears to promote more discussion (simply because local students tend to shy away from participation).

Personally, I feel that the quality/ insights of the lecturers make minimal impact at an undergraduate level, especially for a generic degree in commerce. But then again, your perception becomes your reality.
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Agree as I have friend in Berwick for an obvious reason. Thanks for the clarification here. On the other hand, does it matter much if one graduates from other local unis be it private or public for a generic course such as this at bachelor level ?
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post Nov 1 2014, 10:55 AM

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didn't Notice there's thread for Monash.
Count me in. Comp Sc smile.gif
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QUOTE(BravoZeroTwo @ Nov 1 2014, 10:51 AM)
Agree as I have friend in Berwick for an obvious reason. Thanks for the clarification here. On the other hand, does it matter much if one graduates from other local unis be it private or public for a generic course such as this at bachelor level ?
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Yes and no. Good students are likely to excel regardless of the environment. In a lesser university, it could be more of a challenge. The reputation of the university alone helps to land interviews due to HR bias, even if the candidates are of the same quality.
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QUOTE(Lespectraal @ Oct 30 2014, 09:03 PM)
Well my math is a bit on the bad side, and I can code alright, but psychology itself also interests me the same way. Plus I don't mind either, I can always learn by my own at my own time later in life, it's just now I'm trying to make a decision.
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computer science is all about maths especially maths without numbers.
do not get into comp sci if your math is weak; instead go for IT.
computer science is rarely about programming (programming is IT once again).
there is a reason why comp sci in monash have a generally high failing rate for first year units and it is due to the weaker math background from most students.

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As for how lectures here are different than MUA, you have access to MULO where you can watch podcast for the lectures on MUA side.
Materials are the same for the same unit by the way and there are high amount of contact between the staff here and staff at MUA for each unit.
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post Nov 1 2014, 05:54 PM

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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Nov 1 2014, 04:14 PM)
computer science is all about maths especially maths without numbers.
do not get into comp sci if your math is weak; instead go for IT.
computer science is rarely about programming (programming is IT once again).
there is a reason why comp sci in monash have a generally high failing rate for first year units and it is due to the weaker math background from most students.

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As for how lectures here are different than MUA, you have access to MULO where you can watch podcast for the lectures on MUA side.
Materials are the same for the same unit by the way and there are high amount of contact between the staff here and staff at MUA for each unit.
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There is rumor saying that the IT department in monash Malaysia isn't that great anymore as most of the lecturers left?
Can you confirm this?
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post Nov 1 2014, 06:48 PM

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QUOTE(D-Frog @ Nov 1 2014, 05:54 PM)
There is rumor saying that the IT department in monash Malaysia isn't that great anymore as most of the lecturers left?
Can you confirm this?
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Lecturers come in and go in pretty much all institution. There is no longer IT in Monash Sunway anymore btw, so that contribute to the change in staff too. Comp sci wise, it is pretty much not affect and seems like Engineering side will handle the math units for it to be better as the previous math lecturers were part timers.
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QUOTE(joequah1 @ Nov 1 2014, 10:55 AM)
didn't Notice there's thread for Monash.
Count me in. Comp Sc smile.gif
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QUOTE(D-Frog @ Nov 1 2014, 05:54 PM)
There is rumor saying that the IT department in monash Malaysia isn't that great anymore as most of the lecturers left?
Can you confirm this?
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IT dept? u mean school of IT?
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post Nov 2 2014, 11:19 PM

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QUOTE(D-Frog @ Nov 1 2014, 05:54 PM)
There is rumor saying that the IT department in monash Malaysia isn't that great anymore as most of the lecturers left?
Can you confirm this?
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Yup, that's true. Many great lecturers left, due to the management and racist.
That's what one of the lecturer told me.
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QUOTE(joequah1 @ Nov 2 2014, 11:19 PM)
Yup, that's true. Many great lecturers left, due to the management and racist.
That's what one of the lecturer told me.
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The only really great one that left for me during my years there were Dr Belkathir and he left to go back to France (during my 3rd year). The only lecturer I know who leave the tutorial like a boss if you don't prepare for it or make you stand up in lecture if you are late or do not pay attention.

For the racism thing, that is new considering current lecturers are all pretty multi-national compared to last time being majority Chinese lolx.

ps: who was the lecturer that told you about it O.o
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post Nov 3 2014, 10:22 PM

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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Nov 1 2014, 04:14 PM)
computer science is all about maths especially maths without numbers.
do not get into comp sci if your math is weak; instead go for IT.
computer science is rarely about programming (programming is IT once again).
there is a reason why comp sci in monash have a generally high failing rate for first year units and it is due to the weaker math background from most students.

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As for how lectures here are different than MUA, you have access to MULO where you can watch podcast for the lectures on MUA side.
Materials are the same for the same unit by the way and there are high amount of contact between the staff here and staff at MUA for each unit.
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Well what about Computer Science programs of other universities like Sunway or Inti? They too follow the same lineage? Thanks for the input there by the way.
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Does anyone of you know when can I visit monash sunway to look around the university?
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QUOTE(Lespectraal @ Nov 3 2014, 10:22 PM)
Well what about Computer Science programs of other universities like Sunway or Inti? They too follow the same lineage? Thanks for the input there by the way.
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not sure about those now but back then (around 2006-2007), the programs from inti/ kdu (i did not check Sunway since it is near Monash) focus too much on the programming aspect where their CompSci program feels like an IT/ IS degree than a CompSci degree.
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QUOTE(dropboxid @ Nov 3 2014, 10:46 PM)
Does anyone of you know when can I visit monash sunway to look around the university?
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Anytime when it opens
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QUOTE(dropboxid @ Nov 3 2014, 10:46 PM)
Does anyone of you know when can I visit monash sunway to look around the university?
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Anytime my friend smile.gif Just ask the staffs at the place where they talk and advise new/potential students and parents (building 2) to give you a tour.
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QUOTE(HawkreiN @ Nov 1 2014, 12:12 AM)
Yes it would differ, to an extent. But then again, even Monash campuses within Australia would differ (eg. Clayton vs Caulfield vs Berwick). Whether the delivery of the course if better depends on your learning style - Aus appears to promote more discussion (simply because local students tend to shy away from participation).

Personally, I feel that the quality/ insights of the lecturers make minimal impact at an undergraduate level, especially for a generic degree in commerce. But then again, your perception becomes your reality.
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Monash graduate here. I've had the honour of being able to study at Monash in Malaysia and at the Clayton campus. I have to agree with you that the quality of teaching doesn't necessarily differ across the campuses but it's actually all down to personal preferences. Yes, the Aussie campuses tend to focus more on participation. Again, this is probably down to their culture. From my experience they are more relaxed in their teaching styles and also tend to reward students if they can see that you've tried your best etc. Malaysian campus, work your ass off and you still get mediocre marks. It's the cultural difference. Asians tend to be more demanding when it comes to quality of work. To think about it, when I was in Aus the students would be amazed at how professionally done our lab reports were. In comparison, they'd scribble stuff on a piece of paper and pass it up as their lab reports. Plus don't be surprised when our level of written English is actually higher than the local Aussie students.
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QUOTE(dropboxid @ Nov 3 2014, 10:46 PM)
Does anyone of you know when can I visit monash sunway to look around the university?
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QUOTE(iLegend @ Nov 3 2014, 11:41 PM)
Anytime my friend smile.gif Just ask the staffs at the place where they talk and advise new/potential students and parents (building 2) to give you a tour.
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not anytime la sweat.gif sundays not available unless got open day. saturday i think half day only.

QUOTE(chuakz @ Nov 13 2014, 08:51 PM)
Monash graduate here. I've had the honour of being able to study at Monash in Malaysia and at the Clayton campus. I have to agree with you that the quality of teaching doesn't necessarily differ across the campuses but it's actually all down to personal preferences. Yes, the Aussie campuses tend to focus more on participation. Again, this is probably down to their culture. From my experience they are more relaxed in their teaching styles and also tend to reward students if they can see that you've tried your best etc. Malaysian campus, work your ass off and you still get mediocre marks. It's the cultural difference. Asians tend to be more demanding when it comes to quality of work. To think about it, when I was in Aus the students would be amazed at how professionally done our lab reports were. In comparison, they'd scribble stuff on a piece of paper and pass it up as their lab reports. Plus don't be surprised when our level of written English is actually higher than the local Aussie students.
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yeah their reports/literature review are wayyyy more simple and they can get full marks for a simple report. it's really shocking to see their quality of work compared to malaysians.
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QUOTE(zstan @ Nov 14 2014, 09:25 AM)
not anytime la sweat.gif  sundays not available unless got open day. saturday i think half day only.
yeah their reports/literature review are wayyyy more simple and they can get full marks for a simple report. it's really shocking to see their quality of work compared to malaysians.
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most sunway monashians that have had the opportunity to go for exchange to melbourne will most likely have their best semester there academically biggrin.gif
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Any business school seniors here can give advice bout whether these 3 subjects would be considerably easy to get HD, in your opinion ?

Units: Commercial banking, Trade finance and foreign exchange & International financial management notworthy.gif

If you have any other recommendation for relatively easy 2nd/3rd year units, please do so as I need 3 either 2nd/3rd yr electives, I prefer to have less assignment/assessment that would take up a lot of time(e.g presumably marketing units) and more towards calculation based(e.g financial management). Thanks in advance icon_question.gif

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