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post Jul 22 2014, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Jul 22 2014, 10:19 AM)
Hi, how's the transfer speed when copying files to your NAS RPi? Do you usually get around 9-10 MB/s?
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I hardly transfer files to or from the RPi NAS. Just tried it and get about 7 to 8MB/s copying to it, but only about 4MB/s copying from it over the network.
On the rare occasions when I want to copy files from the RPi NAS to another harddisk or thumbdrive, I connect them directly to the RPi so that the copying is not through the network but within the RPi.

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post Jul 22 2014, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(skeelee @ Jul 22 2014, 10:42 AM)
I hardly transfer files to or from the RPi NAS. Just tried it and get about 7 to 8MB/s copying to it, but only about 4MB/s copying from it over the network.
On the rare occasions when I want to copy files from the RPi NAS to another harddisk or thumbdrive, I connect them directly to the RPi so that the copying is not through the network but within the RPi.
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post Jul 22 2014, 11:16 AM

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QUOTE(skeelee @ Jul 22 2014, 10:42 AM)
I hardly transfer files to or from the RPi NAS. Just tried it and get about 7 to 8MB/s copying to it, but only about 4MB/s copying from it over the network.
On the rare occasions when I want to copy files from the RPi NAS to another harddisk or thumbdrive, I connect them directly to the RPi so that the copying is not through the network but within the RPi.
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I see, that speed is quite acceptable
From what I've read, some experienced slow speed as low as 1MB/s which is even worse,
Is your partition set as NTFS or Ext4/3? Seems like most users recommend use ext4 for better transfer speed hmm.gif
Do you use your RPi other than NAS? Like as download manager from usenet/torrents/direct links.

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post Jul 22 2014, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Jul 22 2014, 11:16 AM)
I see, that speed is quite acceptable
From what I've read, some experienced slow speed as low as 1MB/s which is even worse,
Is your partition set as NTFS or Ext4/3? Seems like most users recommend use ext4 for better transfer speed  hmm.gif
Do you use your RPi other than NAS? Like as download manager from usenet/torrents/direct links.
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WD Mybook 3TB setup as ext4 and samba for NAS on an RPi Model B. On the same box are Transmission for Txxxxxxx, and aMuled for eD2k.

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post Jul 22 2014, 11:41 AM

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post Jul 22 2014, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(skeelee @ Jul 22 2014, 11:34 AM)
WD Mybook 3TB setup as ext4 and samba for NAS on an RPi Model B. On the same box are Transmission for Txxxxxxx, and aMuled for eD2K.
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I never really understood how eD2k works hmm.gif
If you connect your 3TB ext4 formatted drive to your pc with windows,
Would you still be able to get that sweet USB3.0 transfer speed?
Planning to get the the B+ raspberry model soon, and still waiting for xiaomi box pro to test xbmc on it
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post Jul 22 2014, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Jul 22 2014, 11:45 AM)
I never really understood how eD2k works  hmm.gif
If you connect your 3TB ext4 formatted drive to your pc with windows,
Would you still be able to get that sweet USB3.0 transfer speed?
Planning to get the the B+ raspberry model soon, and still waiting for xiaomi box pro to test xbmc on it
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Only can use amule when the file links are published as eD2k links. Just add the links to amule and it will do the rest. In my case I use amuled which is a daemon and run in the background without the x-window desktop.

Windows cannot read ext4 partitions, and I didn't bother to find any way to do so by installing additional drivers. If I need to connect the ext4 drive to the PC, I boot the PC in Ubuntu for the connection. And my PC is old, without USB3 port.

If you are keen, PM me for my RPi installation notes. That will save you a lot of time.
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post Jul 22 2014, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(RAMChYLD @ Jul 22 2014, 09:56 AM)
Normally when you output sound, it's converted to LPCM. Some equipment like TVs (ie the LG 32LW4500 TV I use) limits LPCM to 2 channel. So if you connect your PC or android box to the TV HDMI first then use the TV's ARC to feed sound to your HT amp, (or worse, feed sound to the amp via SPDIF or TosLink because the TV has no ARC support) maybe because the amp does not have enough HDMI ports and all ports are used, the amp will only get stereo sound. However the TV will have no problems pushing 5.1 or 7.1 sound to the amp via SPDIF, TosLink or ARC if it's in Dolby 5.1/7.1. This is where passthrough comes in handy- the TV will receive a 5.1/7.1 bitstream from the PC instead of LPCM, and will pass the signal to the HT amp. So the result is true 5.1 from the amp.

You don't have to worry if your setup consists of an amp that can receive 5.1/7.1 LPCM and the XBMC PC or box connects direct to it. Only when your XMBC setup consists of trying to pass a signal through a device that can't i.e. a TV that you have to worry about passthrough.

For example, in my case, my amp is a Philips Fidelio FTL9100 soundbar, both HDMI port is used (one by PS3, other by XBox 360). Media Center running XBMC is connected to TV HDMI port 2 (Port 1 is video from soundbar).

The 32LW4500 does not support ARC and thus has an optical line running into the soundbar. As mentioned earlier it will also only support stereo LPCM, but can pass 5.1/7.1 Dolby DTS directly from HDMI to optical. So sending it 5.1 LPCM from XMBC will only have the soundbar strangely playing back the front channel sounds, surround speaker and sub not working. Using passthrough, XBMC sends the DTS raw to the HDMI port, and the TV will detect it as raw DTS and pass it on through optical to the soundbar, which will decode it as 5.1 and all channels working.
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It is a long list and read all the lines, a bit hard to digest as I am not so knowledgeable about audio. Have to read more, thanks notworthy.gif
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post Jul 22 2014, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(shadow_rx @ Jul 22 2014, 11:41 AM)
Azdrama having an error any fix?
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dknight had mention he is busy for 3 weeks.. so expect the fix to come after that
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QUOTE(powerwoot @ Jul 22 2014, 09:36 AM)
I am an extreme noob here about passthrough audio, all the while as long I am able to hear it correctly, it is ok. mind telling me what is passthrough is all about, thanks.
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i try to explain in layman terms

passthrough is asking the media player not to process (can be tv, android box, apple tv). Audio from your media source (movie) are encoded. Normally it will be encoded into DTS or Dobly format. If we select passthru media player will pass it to the next target (for eg your AV receiver/TV/Soundbar) for decoding. if not then it will process the decoding itself

Why is this matter? This matter then you have a quality receiver that you are connecting to. In this case i do not want my media player to decode the sound i wan my receiver to decode this.

another pro point here is we can reduce the job for the media player. Working to output 1080p video will create certain stress to the player already. If we still ask the player to process high quality audio, if your player is not good enough it will give you non-smooth movie playing.


The target here is to get the best possible experience from the quality media source that you are trying to play.
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post Jul 22 2014, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Jul 22 2014, 02:42 PM)
i try to explain in layman terms

passthrough is asking the media player not to process (can be tv, android box, apple tv). Audio from your media source (movie) are encoded. Normally it will be encoded into DTS or Dobly format. If we select passthru media player will pass it to the next target (for eg your AV receiver/TV/Soundbar) for decoding. if not then it will process the decoding itself

Why is this matter? This matter then you have a quality receiver that you are connecting to. In this case i do not want my media player to decode the sound i wan my receiver to decode this.

another pro point here is we can reduce the job for the media player. Working to output 1080p video will create certain stress to the player already. If we still ask the player to process high quality audio, if your player is not good enough it will give you non-smooth movie playing.
The target here is to get the best possible experience from the quality media source that you are trying to play.
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Seems that I am getting clearer picture now, it is about bypassing the default to achieve another for some reasons. Thanks nod.gif
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post Jul 22 2014, 04:59 PM

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QUOTE(powerwoot @ Jul 22 2014, 04:11 PM)
Seems that I am getting clearer picture now, it is about bypassing the default to achieve another for some reasons. Thanks  nod.gif
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if the "default" or original audio is poor, e.g. mono 1.0 or mp3 2.0, that's all u get, be it direct to tv or avr.

big media files incl iso/bdmv, 40-50gb per movie, have high grade audio like dtshdma7.1 or ddtruehd5.1, need to be "passthru-ed" by player to be handled by avr/theater system.

the issue discussed was: xbmc can't handle these highgrade audio on most devices and will just downgrade to core dolby or dts to the avr - that is correct and i think it's due to licensing/royalty payment. of course if no avr, direct to tv, it's just 2.0, will have little difference compared to mp3.

i had asked why bother to playback media files with xbmc and suffer audio grade loss when most player boxes have a native player that can do the job nicely. the answer i got is because playing via xbmc gives nice cover displays, can access subtitles - which i do not find necessary.

for online streaming, i doubt there is much dtshdma/ddtruehd material as the bit rate will be very high but there are dts or dolby material (for avr to process). of course, again, if direct to tv, that will be downgraded to 2.0.

it's all about audio - and that is impt to some people. to me, it is extremely impt if watching blockbuster movies and concerts. tv shows and b-grade movies, no need, tv audio is fine. biggrin.gif

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Anybody have issues accessing DramaGo add-on ? Getting script errors mad.gif
It was working in the afternoon though.

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Anyone with an Intel NUC here and successfully managed to get HD-Audio to be passed through to their AV receivers? Did a bit of googling and the consensus is that it doesn't work if the NUC is running Windows?

Got a Minix Neo 8H recently but as we all know, that doesn't do HD audio which is a shame.

Thx in advance!

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QUOTE(welwitchia @ Jul 24 2014, 09:11 AM)
Anyone with an Intel NUC here and successfully managed to get HD-Audio to be passed through to their AV receivers? Did a bit of googling and the consensus is that it doesn't work if the NUC is running Windows?

Got a Minix Neo 8H recently but as we all know, that doesn't do HD audio which is a shame.

Thx in advance!
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just curious...

do you mean both cases can't get hd audio via xbmc or can't get with any installed player incl native?
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Sorry for not being completely clear..

I haven't exactly tried other player on the android devices..if anyone here can recommend some to try it out, that would be great.

However, that being said, I guess the main advantage of using XBMC is how "pretty" it is? biggrin.gif

I have a few Dune players at home that can do HD-Audio streaming. I just wanted something that's easy and pretty. biggrin.gif

Thanks again!

QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jul 24 2014, 11:02 AM)
just curious...

do you mean both cases can't get hd audio via xbmc or can't get with any installed player incl native?
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QUOTE(welwitchia @ Jul 24 2014, 11:25 AM)
Sorry for not being completely clear..
I haven't exactly tried other player on the android devices..if anyone here can recommend some to try it out, that would be great.
However, that being said, I guess the main advantage of using XBMC is how "pretty" it is?  biggrin.gif
I have a few Dune players at home that can do HD-Audio streaming. I just wanted something that's easy and pretty.  biggrin.gif
Thanks again!
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having read the most recent posts incl yrs, it is clear to me that xbmc generally can't passthru hd audio on most devices.

and yes, if one do media playback via xbmc, it's more to do with cosmetic reasons!

dune and many major brand players can surely do hd audio with usb playback. even my 4 yr old acryan can!

so can some androids, maybe most androids today..? but i mean with the native players, not via xbmc.

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jul 24 2014, 01:40 PM)
having read the most recent posts incl yrs, it is clear to me that xbmc generally can't passthru hd audio on most devices.

and yes, if one do media playback via xbmc, it's more to do with cosmetic reasons!

dune and many major brand players can surely do hd audio with usb playback. even my 4 yr old acryan can!

so can some androids, maybe most androids today..? but i mean with the native players, not via xbmc.
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The constraints isn't because of xbmc, but because of the media player hardware capability. Understand that xbmc is just the frontend to the hardware.
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QUOTE(MK84 @ May 13 2014, 08:19 PM)
I give up already on Google. Disappointed with the way they handled Google TV platform. It had potential. My Revue now collecting dust while the Pulse is going back into the box now that FireTV is here. The only saving grace for the Pulse is that it handles Plex quite well and has Amazon Instant Video. IMHO the FireTV is exactly what Google should've done.
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Have placed an order for fire tv, but wondering, when you got it, was it possible to use their power adapter with just the us-uk plug adaptor or do I have to change to a different power adapter? Just asking because I kinda remember that Malaysia and US has a different voltage rating hmm.gif
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QUOTE(arslow @ Jul 26 2014, 08:30 PM)
Have placed an order for fire tv, but wondering, when you got it, was it possible to use their power adapter with just the us-uk plug adaptor or do I have to change to a different power adapter? Just asking because I kinda remember that Malaysia and US has a different voltage rating hmm.gif
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The power adapter is dual-voltage. 110V-220V. You only need a pin adapter (blade to round).

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