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post Jul 25 2014, 08:44 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jul 24 2014, 01:40 PM)
having read the most recent posts incl yrs, it is clear to me that xbmc generally can't passthru hd audio on most devices.

and yes, if one do media playback via xbmc, it's more to do with cosmetic reasons!

dune and many major brand players can surely do hd audio with usb playback. even my 4 yr old acryan can!

so can some androids, maybe most androids today..? but i mean with the native players, not via xbmc.
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The constraints isn't because of xbmc, but because of the media player hardware capability. Understand that xbmc is just the frontend to the hardware.
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post Aug 3 2014, 11:14 PM

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QUOTE(voncrane @ Aug 3 2014, 01:51 PM)
Connect external hard drive, Go to movies, add media location, set parameters and wait for xbmc to scrape and organize movie infos. Will take awhile depending on how many movies you are indexing.
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one way to avoid losing any movie info (forcing you to rescrape everything which will take a lot of time), is to use an external scraper and construct nfo files for all the movies folder.
this way the movie info and images will be stored directly inside the folder rather than inside the database. so avoid any problem with xbmc migration. it'll also be much faster scraping time if should there's more than one media player accessing the library.

xbmc on an external drive, or running on a media player will be too slow if there's more than a couple of drives connected.
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post Aug 4 2014, 01:28 PM

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QUOTE(MK84 @ Aug 4 2014, 06:36 AM)
You can also use MySQL as XBMC database and set the library update to be done server side. Useful if you have multiple clients/players. That's what I'm running at the moment.
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nice. thanks for the new info.

QUOTE(voncrane @ Aug 4 2014, 08:30 AM)
Hmmm, how do I do this exactly? I'm all about efficiency but I've got over 1000 movie, TV series and anime files and I don't see myself manually constructing nfo files for each.
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there's a few solution. i'm using media centre master.
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post Aug 9 2014, 01:34 PM

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QUOTE(carcrazy @ Aug 4 2014, 06:53 PM)
Hi paskal
how do u use external scraper?
Need to store movie info into movie folder
thanks
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sorry for the late reply.
just install the program, point the settings to the media folder and you can start scraping. oversimplification, but it's as easy as that.
tho make sure to put each movie into separate folders. the scraper will construct all the necessary info file and images inside the folder.
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post Aug 14 2014, 07:27 PM

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QUOTE(carcrazy @ Aug 12 2014, 03:59 PM)
thanks

can you advise me on whic SATA expansion card to get. as i notice price varies a lot.
currently all 6 SATA is full on HDD(6 X 3TB). i need add 4 more ports for more HDD.

note: can the PSU 550w handle all 10 HDD's ?
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search for 4 port pci sata card, or 4 port pci-e sata card. pci-e should be a bit faster (20% better throughput) compared to pci, at ~3 times the price.
i got mine from aliexpress for RM30-ish (pci based). pci-e would set you back around RM100 shipped.

i've tried a couple of them, different port numbers, both pci and pci-e. get those with chips from marvell or silicone image. stay away from jmicron or VIA based cards. for pci, search for SIL3114 based cards. pci-e can't remember the exact chip, but also go with chips from sil (silicone image).
never had any data corruption issue with them silicone image or marvell based cards, even with heavy data transfer and all ports used.

i'm running 16 hdds from a single 560w true power silverstone PSU. buy a true power PSU that can supply the rated power continuously, and stay away from them cheap PSU costing under RM100. there's a site that tests PSU for their actual performance and max continuous power, till the breaking point. can't remember the site name.

a 3.5" hdd is measured to take ~6W of power. so if you don't use a 120W 8-core amd fx cpu and 120w ati radeons for your htpc, even a 420w true power psu will run all 10 hdds no problem.
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post Aug 15 2014, 08:24 PM

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QUOTE(xngjn @ Aug 15 2014, 07:23 PM)
why some people setup xbmc with sql? If that case i think better to use my netbook as NAS for hosting those media since it no use at there. Is this method ok? Performance will be good?
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because it provides server side media info. all media info and info update will be handled server side, without needing each client to scrape multiple times for each player.
add new media to the server, server does the info update, server updates the sql database, and all player will see the new media plus all the necessary info without needing separate media refresh. saves time if you have a single centralized media library providing access to multiple player throughout the entire house.

netbook as nas if you have a couple of drivers. if you have more than a couple, consider building a low powered server.
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post Aug 15 2014, 08:38 PM

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QUOTE(xngjn @ Aug 15 2014, 08:26 PM)
at the moment i put 1TB internal hdd first. later on will add hdd using 3 remaining usb port. will it be good?
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probably. i didn't have any issue running my hp atom based netbook as my simple nas and download and torrent server. it's been running for over a year now. mostly turned on 24/7.

do make sure to connect the netbook through wired lan to the router. better throughput.
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post Aug 17 2014, 12:10 PM

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QUOTE(azeL_Inc @ Aug 17 2014, 11:42 AM)
Sorry if this has been discussed before, but i couldnt read all pages, only manage to read first 15 pages n get bored. lol.

I m new xbmc  user, having 5mpbs unifi. i thought that is sufficient for HD streaming (based on my reading from the first 15 pages), but i couldnt stream HD movie smoothly, never once.
i did manage to stream SD movie (sometimes) wtihout buffering at all, and some other times, here are cases where buffering appears every 5-6 mins.

is this normal, because if it is, i would consider upgrading my unifi to 10mbps. what i am afraid is that my xbmc box is causing the buffering. i m running on pc, conecting to tv via hdmi 10 meters away. my cpu is athlon x2, n gpu is low end sapphire GC. (i know, not the best PC spec available). I really hope it is my hadrware rather than connection speed as 5mbps is fast enough, i think.

i rea few things about audio causing the lag as well, but could not understand it completely. anyone can shed some lights here?
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subscribe to netflix/hulu. subscribe to dns service.
free streaming services are too much dependent on the provider. which usually sucks because it's free.

5mbps is enough for continuous 720p. don't have to download another tv series, ever. it will only cost you, around RM20 a month.
and if you configure your wifi router correctly, you could stream netflix in hd, let your kids watch youtube and run the server to download and torrent all at the same time.
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post Aug 17 2014, 07:44 PM

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both of which still don't have a BD release for them.
there's no mkv, no bdrip, no 720p, no 1080p for them.

if you don't mind the quality then sure you can watch them before the bd is released. some don't mind, some do.
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post Oct 30 2014, 05:57 PM

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QUOTE(MK84 @ Oct 30 2014, 09:07 AM)
FYI, Google Nexus Player is available for pre-order again.

http://www.google.com/intl/all/nexus/player/
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too bad not available for this country. would be nice to stream netflix in hd without needing other workarounds.
you're able to preorder one?
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post Nov 2 2014, 03:46 PM

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QUOTE(MK84 @ Nov 2 2014, 03:23 PM)
Yeah have to use forwarding service since they only ship to US.
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you buying one?
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post Nov 6 2014, 07:40 PM

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QUOTE(WildChai @ Nov 6 2014, 12:39 PM)
Good to know...I have been using NFS for a few years now. Since my old media players then doesn't cut it to stream 20GB++ movies. Been loving it since.

Will try out SMB again since androids are 4.4 now. And now lollipop...blazingly fast? lol.
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Stick with nfs if it's working fine for you. People usually go with smb because it's the default protocol with Windows. If you read around, the first thing suggested when there's stutter is to change to nfs. That will usually solve any issue with large file streaming.

But it's not defaultly supported by Windows and native to Linux. So a bit hassle to setup if you're using Windows as the server. Smb have to be tweaked to get similar performance as nfs.
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post Nov 29 2014, 01:08 PM

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QUOTE(arslow @ Nov 28 2014, 11:45 AM)
have a 24/7 i3 4130 NAS turned on 24/7, didnt really notice an increase in electricity bill before and after getting it smile.gif
Haswell standby performance is REALLY low, not much to worry on terms of power consumption

I dont have a Kill-A-Watt meter or anything so can only give a subjective answer to this, but there are many data available online which further proves my point~
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if you're not running any form of RAID spread with parity on it, even an atom is more than enough for NAS purposes to just to serve files.
an i3 or an i5 or i7, 22nm process haswell while it's still conservatively low compared to yesteryear processors, it's still not as low as an embedded processor.

the processor itself has a TDP of 54W. expect full load system power to hit ~150W and idle at 50W-100W. if you're running windows as the OS server it will be higher than a console Linux or BSD.
user posted image

this is haswell running linux server:
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yes the OS plays a part in the power consumption.
this is all moot if you run plex media transcoding on the NAS as those require quite a capable single threaded CPU.

QUOTE(jerm @ Nov 28 2014, 08:45 AM)
From kodi testing, the idle is at about 6w, and full steam also, around 15w only IIRC

power brick is rated at 65w, way way lower than a typical htpc. The i3 power brick needs a 45w one only!

my only reason to get this is due to having it being left on 24/7, hence need the low power consumption
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it's lower than a typical htpc, but it lacks the multitude of storage options. also the main components are not upgradeable.
you lose quite a lot of htpc flexibility with the intel nuc. it's just a bit better than a media player.

if you need to run it 24/7, an embedded solution like raspi or banana pi have much lower power consumption (~1W) and could be had for ~RM100. and build a proper htpc (~50W power) that you only turn on for high bitrate movies.
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post Nov 29 2014, 11:07 PM

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QUOTE(arslow @ Nov 29 2014, 10:58 PM)
yes, all your points are very true, and the main reason i went for that i3 rather than a simple celeron was because of plex. xbmc is used for playing back media on the tv, but with the plexbmc addon, so the core of my media consumption is the plex media server smile.gif (on unRAID OS which is based on Slackware)

NUC is more of a really premium way of maxing out the capabilities of xbmc. iinm a raspberry pi isnt able to passthrough HD audio, though I have no idea if he needs that or even has a receiver capable of decoding those formats
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if you have lots of untouched bdrips or remuxed bds, then i reckon even an i3 would struggle handling them. transcoding them i mean.
plex requires powerful single threaded cpu for vc1 decoding and transcoding.

have you got any performance issues with plex transcoding with say, 2 simultaneous transcoding job?

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yes raspi isn't capable of bitstreaming hd audio. but the board in itself, isn't exactly capable of handling high bitrate movies with all the lossless audio in it. which makes it a cheap streaming solution for lower bitrate movies directly connected to the tv hdmi input, without transcoding.

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QUOTE(arslow @ Nov 29 2014, 11:38 PM)
its a sin to transcode remuxed BDs tongue.gif
those are usually played back on the TV on my fireTV. Plex is used only for series as they are watched using mobile devices by many in the house, or even when we're outside. Just tried a few scenarios:-( server is set at "make my CPU hurt" settings)

1 1080p transcode(with int. sub and max quality settings) and 1 720p transode(with int. sub and max quality settings)  was smooth,. do note audio was also being transcoded here.

3 720p transcode with the above settings was also smooth. 2 1080p trancodes at the same time wasnt possible without buffering on one client. This is more than enough for my current situation as most clients plys back the videos without video transcode and only audio transcode, which doesnt pose any issue up to 5 simultaneous transcodes( I have not tried more than that, as even 5 is an unlikely situation lol)

all the above transcodes are itunes videos(WEB-DLs)

did try with one remux, transformers 4 with similar settings as above, couldnt have another 720p trancode at the same time without buffering lol. But then again a movie is never played using plex on a mobile device, unless its a laptop, and that doesnt need a video transcode.

was almost gonna get a xeon while NAS shopping, glad I didnt biggrin.gif but yeah transcoding is really heavy on the CPU nod.gif

the raspi is a great client to get xbmc up and  running for someone who doesnt require much from xbmc (basically most of the casual users) but the board itself, with its appearance would most probably put off alot of people, thinking its something for advanced tinkerers sweat.gif

If only I can somehow get 23.976Hz and HD audio passthrough on my fireTV, things would be so perfect...
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i have lots of movies stored as remuxes. including animations. while most clients have the capability to playback them without transcoding, mobile and tablets will have bit of a problem handling all that bitrate. expect an arguing wife vs her children.

been reading about offloading plex transcoding to a dedicated server. suspended most of the time, and WOL-ed only when transcoding is required. then suspended again if there's no activity.
that way it is possible to have a huge powerhouse without affecting much of the tnb bill. NAS using a low power bay trail; and plex transcoder on a xeon or an i5.
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post Dec 4 2014, 09:52 AM

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QUOTE(MK84 @ Dec 4 2014, 05:56 AM)
Switched to Google Nexus Player.
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already received yours? i thought it still not released to the market yet?
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post Dec 4 2014, 02:51 PM

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QUOTE(MK84 @ Dec 4 2014, 02:17 PM)
It was released around mid Nov. Got mine from Google Play store. You can find them for sale on eBay with varying markup.

Good news is, we might see licensed Android TV OS box from Chinese manufacturers soon. Allwinner seems to be working on one.


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they can't playback movies, say mkv or ts/m2ts directly right?

or somebody somewhere managed to hack the player and allow direct playback? relying on pure streaming is gonna put much burden on my plex server.
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post Dec 4 2014, 04:27 PM

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QUOTE(MK84 @ Dec 4 2014, 03:28 PM)
At the moment no support for local playback yet AFAIK.

On the bright side regards to Plex, direct stream and direct play of MKV files is supported.
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please confirm:
you mean the nexus player is able to play mkvs from an NFS or SMB share? just that playback from a usb storage attached to the device is not supported?
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post Dec 4 2014, 10:07 PM

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QUOTE(MK84 @ Dec 4 2014, 09:48 PM)
Yup correct. I tested MKV and M2TS from NFS share (via Kodi). H.264 and MPEG2 played fine, only VC1 had issues.
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wohhh... all these while i thought the nexus player aren't able to play mkv, just supports streaming function.
nice to know then. i'm not planning for local playback as all media will be stored at the fileserver.

say, your vc1 problem, is it related to bandwidth issue? i never could consistently stream vc1 through wifi.
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QUOTE(azrash @ Feb 2 2015, 08:28 PM)
new RPI 2 is out! with quadcore Arm7 900MHz and 1GB RAM

how many of you RPi users are upgrading?
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it's now in stock at rsmalaysia.
i've placed order for 3. probably will be buying more once i sampled the initial purchase.

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