Hello Forumer...
I own a 2000 Honda CRV First Generation Last Batch...
I installed a Koni Yellow Sport Suspention paired with H&R Race Spring (RED)

The car was so stable on high speed mostly when I travel KL-IPOH once a week...
Its the sport best suspension setup I've ever own in my life

Now Im driving a 2nd Generation Honda Jazz GE8 CBU with paddle shifter...
On last week of chinese new year I brought the car to TITAN specialist...
The gave me the brief yet most reviewed I read on forums said that its the most comfy adjustable on the market...
So I made a decision of installing them...
Before I proceed to them I told them that I want a setup that are good for conering while theres a comfy side...
I gave the car to them and I was given their persona that equip with their Titan Adjustable and I was suprise how comfy the ride is and the steering feedback while conerning is very impressive...

On the same day I got the car and drove it to home I found that the ride is quite harsh...
I was like oh its ok maybe it the nature of adjustable suspensiom...
On the night I tried the car on MRR2 to cheras and I was like WTF!!! Its very stiff and bouncy like hell...
Even my friend that was with me said its like your shock dont do their job...

Later on next day I went back to them and they installed me their spring 5K on front and 3K on the rear...
I was like oh ok Im fine with the ride feels...
Later on the other day I traveled back to ipoh...

Again I was like WTF!!!
Its still bumpy and bouncy while cruising on the highway...
And the next week after I went back to them and they told me that they will try to soften the shock compression...
I proceed and it was the 2nd tuning and it was the last tuning they gave me as a new buyers you have the ringht to get only 2 times of free tuning...

Suddenly while I was waiting they came to me and said it not possible to soften it further more...
So they sunggest me to come tomorrow morning to get back my oem spring to be install on the rear...as We cannot proceed it on the day as its already 5pm...

So on the next morning I went to them and I left the car to them with my oem rear spring...
At about 4pm...I went back to them and I saw the height of the rear was like WTF!!! It was so hight as same as stock setup...
Before I proceed to transplant the oem spring I was told that they can make the height setup as low as the current setup with thier spring which was 2.5 finger gap...
But once I saw it...I said this wasnt right...
So I told them to installed back their spring and the shock compression is soften to the setup with oem spring...
Still I have to paid them...Suppose I was quoted RM100 for the tuning and I asked them to make it RM50 since I was a customer that didnt met the setup I wanted...

So I paid...

And now Im on Ladang Bikam R&R going back to IPOh reporting you guys that I am in huge dissapointment with the ride quality which still bumpy and harsh...
I paid almost for 3k and yet I drove the car like riding a horse...
I even ride my friend VIVA with a FAKE D2 and still full of comfort I felt on his car...

Guy can you give your opinoin please...
What is wrong with me or their quality that is USED to be THE BEST among of All Brands of ADJUSTABLE on the MARKETS...

BEST REGARDS
-DANTEI136-

NEWLY FRESH UPDATES

Hi Guys...
Im back for reporting of good news that I've got...
Yesterday I was called by Them (Patrick , Wailong & Herman).
So I went there at about 10.35AM I Arrived...
There was only him at the moment ad Wailong and Mr Richard is out for breakfast...

Once Arrived I met with Herman a person Who's incharge for me since day one I step my foot to Titan HQ for installing it on my GE8...

So we have some of discussion, at first were discuss regarding a knocking that appear on the front right side.
We didnt bother about the ride issue I've got as our goal were more on the sound issue...

Well after we went thru some explanation to each other for the ride I proceed the car to them to sattle with the knocking...
Once sattle he'll proceed with the ride tuning.

So I left the car to him and I went back home.
At about 3.50 I got a called from Herman to get to him for testing the car.
I was asking to soften the front setup at least 10% while the rear setup was already softer to 15% last week the day I wrote this thread...

So every was done I arrived there and I was first saw Wailong face...
I was a bit like ( tak sampai hati la) with the way I wrote to this thread like making a harsh complained but he still smile at me while waiting me to reach him so that we could discuss more of the setup that he himsilf, herman & Mr Richard...
By the time the knocking sound was done.

So the setup on the front was soften at least 10 percent but maintaing the current ride height...
But Wailong and Herman did notified me that the front will have rub issue while tackle corner before they gave me to test the ride...
There was also one of customer (ANIL) who I know since our 2nd tuning joining with me for a test ride as he came to reduce his sentra front spring rates .

He did also said that i'll rub the fender & tyres.
So we test the ride on a slight uphill road that a bit of beralun and I try and fast as possible taking a fast corner and suddenly as what the expected (Wailong, Herman, Mr Richard and even Anil)...
It was rubbing all the when taking the hard corner without breaking.

I retured to the base (Titan) and i doubled confirm with them with rub...
So I was suggested by Herman, Wailong and Anil to raise a bit the ride height and I asked them why cant you guy make a setup that is 2 finger gap without harsh ride quality and without rubbing and they told me that the current ride height was was 1.5 finger gap...
I was shocked that time and I walked to my car and placed my 2 finger on the gap...and It was tight to enter my 2 finger...

SO HERE I WAS THE ONE WHO WAS WRONG WITH THE GAB MEASUREMENT.

IT WAS TRUE THAT IT WAS 1.5 AS WHAT THEY TOLD ME EARLIER...

So I and herman did laugh on my stupidity...Haha

So I agreed with them and proceed the setup they suggested.
Once complete they told me to get a test on highway.
I drove the car and entered mrr2 but unfortunately it was already quite heavy traffic...

I didnt get a chance to feel the ride with 2 inch gap front and rear...
So I returned to Titan but both Herman & Wailong was out already...
It was already late evening so I returned home but I doubt about the feeling of the ride as I drove my GF CAR KIA POTATO (PICANTO LER) with a boat suspension and I feels I'm high as the suspension is really floating HAHAHAH...
So I cant tell whats the feel of in my car with new setup...

I returned home without paying any even its already 4th time tuning and even Herman did whatsapp me early in the morning today asking about the ride feel...and he dont even tell me to pay...

Today I went to them again for tighten up the mounting on the rear suspension as it tends to make knock sound because according tp Mr Richard the the mounting suspension of my car only have 1 screw with a shape of mounting of 'Kuih Talam' and its not a good as other suspension
mounting it other car.

Wailong just now even detect a knock sound for me that I've didnt notice before and he did told me to change my engine mounting.
It was only appear when we hit big or harsh potholes.

I just told him to detect the knocking sound from suspension mounting yet he discover more than I imagine in order to let my ride free of unwanted sound.
But Im ok with that as long as there is no issues or sound come from the shock.
Still he never asked me to pay for the setup yesterday...
Even Anil told me that Wailong refused to charge...

Now Im writing this to report that the ride quality is start to develop on me and while I drove back home just now from titan and I enjoy how well the shock compress all the uneven road and once i reached home I stup my engine off opened my door and I said
'IT DOES FEEL LIKE IM NOT USING ADJUSTABLE' but 'FEELS LIKE ONLY USE SPORT SPRING BUT TAKING CORNERS LIKE HAVING ADJUSTABLE'

After a long journey with this setup...
Probably the 1st fully adjustable i'VE EVER OWN and IT ALSO DOES PROVE TO ME THAT ITS THE BEST ADJUSTABLE I'VE EVER USE BESIDE KONI WHICH WAS SEMI ADJUSTABLE...

ITS YET THE BEST AND COMFY ADJUSTABLE I HAVE...

THANKS EVERYONE AND BIG THANKS TO TITAN ESPECIALLY PATRIC (FrozenIce) WHO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE TO TITAN...HERMAN WHO'S ALWAYS WITH ME INCHARGE OF ANY PROBLEM I'VE GOT AND WAILONG WHO IS ALWAYS HELP ME IN TECHNICAL PROBLEM AND INSIST ME OF HOW TO GET THE BEST SETUP THAT SUIT ME AND THE CAR...

This post has been edited by dantei136: May 9 2014, 02:42 PM

who told u these?? i know Ohlins , moton , they are, titan? nope


btw, titan customize coilover base on owner feedback, which is no support by data, so expected u need to drive in and out to looking for the right setup

Bro, if you benchmark based on your prev ride - the Koni and H&R Spring, then i am sure you'd be dissapointed....Koni is noted for being firm but comfortable which is slightly stiffer than OEM...but Titan is adjustable - and the bad news is there is NO comfortable adjustable in the market...and the brand is also monotube, it 'feels' the road more than other adjustable...of cos i am sure you'll be grinning from ear to ear whenever you attack corner, but unfortunately even the softest setting wont be comfortable...have heard and seem owners returning adjustable to the shop, as they cant bear with the stiffness...adjustable is an acquired taste....either you live with it or part with it, 2 options, yours to decide

Haha I know that the brand you mentioned is already out of the list...and the price for those brand is sky rocked...
What im referring is brands like Gap...zerozone...bc racing...d2...even tien as not as good as them with the same price tag that you'll only get a twin tube adjustable for tein while with titan you get a monotube and its inveterted as same technology use by rieger tuners for bmw...


I went there like 5 times already yet they said somthing that cannot be done and showing you some butt face every time you come to them...
What kind of service they give you for the price of 3k?
Nothing...
Better i get those fake d2 far more comfy...
Hmm

I got 'em on my ex-E46. Let uncle Richard sit in one of friend's M-Sport specced E46 and told him I wanted the same comfort but even better when comes to cornering and stability. After a wait of almost 8 hours, I got back my car. Car is slightly lowered (compared to stock) despite on original springs. Let the shocks run-in for almost a week. Still feel abit soft. Went for 1 round of tuning, and I got exactly what I want and happy for what I paid for.

Paid RM2.7k for the shocks alone and springs were stock BMW non-Sport springs. I would say it's one of the best shocks I ever tried. Very stable at high speed and cornering but yet offers the comfort when comes to normal driving. Not bumpy at all. It just absorbs all the unevenness of the road. I never had the confidence to do 200 km/h on my old shocks but with the Titan, the stability gave me the well required confidence. Got another BMW with stock M-Sport shocks now but I still prefer the old Titan setup. Prolly gonna replace them with Titan once they die.

I believe you may need to let uncle Richard test a setup which you prefer in order for him to have a "butt feel" and tune the way you wanted it. That's just based on my experience. And perhaps Titan's springs were not suitable? Try one round of tuning while using back your stock springs (ignore the height for the time being) and see how they feels to you.

Uncle Richard always advised to go back to stock springs should you require some level of comfort.

but do you know that actually twin tube application more suitable for street driving? because in the same length body, the twin tube structure will provide a longer stroke.

from your problem, i think u need something off the shelf, not customize , so buy , install and go, no need many problem, if u wan comfort better opt for sport spring and sport absorber, because the linear spring for sure will be less comfort than the progressive one

u want adjustable and want sapu corner and you want comfort?

who told you sapu corner type of shock will be comfortable?

Try asking them to adjust the rebound - it could be too quick so you feel bouncy.

I'm using Titan on my 2006 smart forfour and yes for 3 months, car was hopping and ride super bumpy. Now, after more than 3 months of suffering, ride is more comfy and I can attack corners easily then b4. So, I guess, u need to be patience.

If you want the best of both worlds, I believe Koni FSD is the answer.

Anyone here heard of F-Tuned Racing? Another Malaysian made custom suspension specialist, they're mostly ex Proton engineers IIRC
https://www.facebook.com/ftuned?fref=ts

I told them why my car cant perform a comfort level that most satisfy cumtomers get...he said your car is light...and most noticable comfor that I feels were from a heavy sedan...
Even his persona is even more comfy...

And yesterday i met one of the customer there that came for servicing his titaned Myvi...
I asked him hows the setup he get...He also said that the ride in not comfy...so assume what they said about the type of cars and the weight of cars plays important roles with their suspension...
Maybe titan is not that good for a light compact car..?
Well I just assume based on what the myvi owner said...
But when it comes to the customer who titaned a sedan car they got a comfy side...
Hrm...

If that so I must have to wait untill the ride is smooth...

Bro if I wouldnt care about the height so whats the piont of having adjustable...the height that was made by them using stock spring way higher bro...
Like a boat i must said...haha

One more thing that they told me was the tyres that Im using is still stock michilin and its soft side wall and the tyre is 185/55/16 with 6.5jj...

So maybe by changing some hard side wall tyre let say 205/45/16 with 7jj will make some comfy and eliminate the bumpy symtomps??

the "F" is a friend of mine...many consider him to be the handling sifu

if I can find a buyer for my tein flex, id go for his street/track suspension


id like u to PROPERLY think abt the bolded parts...REALLY REALLY think about it.

before u even think of pressing the reply button, think REAL HARD about it.

seriously, im not joking...think VERY VERY HARD about it...

Go for RCS

Haha alright bro...
So I guess Im way too wrong with it...
Haha

Its far more expensive bro...
Price would be around 4k...
Service is same every 25k...but the price is RM1k for service ther shock...
Err...

Bro I love your explaination...
I would want to find more so that I can get the setup you did get...
But how possible it is?
Its already the 3rd round tuning still the same result...
Previously there was a customer with the same car as mine...
The setup he got for the front is same as mine with titan spring 5k rates...but rear he use the stock spring and did lowered nicely...but when it comes to me they cant lowered the stock spring as what did the customer get...

Please enlighten me...

just want to know, did Titan use back ur original spring or they give their spring?
AFAIK, if u want more comfort n handling better then OEM they will install their absorber n tune it to match the spring rate from ur original spring.. if its too bumpy then something wrong with ur ori spring.. if they change it to other spring then u never get back the comfortable u searching..
did they test ur car before they tune it?

as for me, i also ex-Titan user.. i ask them i want street setup (proton wira), after they finish install i thought the rear side its a bit high to my likeness, but they ask try 1st.. i try it for 2-3 months still i dont like it.. then i just ask my mech to lowered it to my like.. then after that i really confident to attack corner as fast as i want..

so much wrong information here..

coilovers can be "comfortable" or should i say, compliant. coilovers can be firm but still reacts to the uneven surface of the road. most cheap coilovers do not have the tech and valving for compliancy. but of course, good coilovers will cost you > RM4k.

also, a true linear springs can provide better ride quality because the damper can work efficiently.

and Titan used to be the best? ahahahahah

dantei136, what you are experiencing is just typical titan.. good luck..

Yea, but as long as you tried to sit on one... You might perhaps have a different perception?

Ok... I cannot afford it too

I am currently eye-ing on F-tuned coilover, thinking to jump ship from Titan to F-Tuned as Titan does not have soft hard setting, and rear spring adjustment. (Suzuki Swift)

I think Titan is not as good as last time when Richard himself taking care of his customers. Price jacked up high and workmanship quality is so so... I was being quoted for RM600 just for a pair of rear spring without height adjuster, reasonable price? hmm...

Titan claimed that their coilover are better and more comfort than other like Bilstein... HKS... etc..etc.. I just could not agree on this, I have tried on friend's HKS coilover and found out it is much more comfortable than Titan, and much more firm on handling uneven roads.

This post has been edited by sengasdf: Feb 18 2014, 03:26 PM

Urm, why you compare the comfy of light torsion beam car to heavy multilink car?

This post has been edited by Effy92: Feb 18 2014, 03:33 PM

Hi Bro...The setup they made for me is by using their spring...none of my spring were used...
Their spring specification FRONT 5K & REAR 3K...
Yes they did try the car before and after they make the setup for me..
It is ok ?
Or is this the reason that they cant get me a setup with comfortable as they are using their spring ?

This post has been edited by dantei136: Feb 18 2014, 04:47 PM

Haha thats true

This post has been edited by dantei136: Feb 18 2014, 04:45 PM

yup.. that could be the reason.. most of car that want comfortable ride (especially rare or expensive car), Titan use back their spring.. they will compress the spring whatsoever to combine with their absorber..

Hi Daniel, Sorry to hear abt this. I will highlight this issue to the person in charge. In the mean time, mind to share with me any other issue you are having?

But on the 3rd round of tuning I did gave them the stock spring but once they use the stock spring the height cant be lowered and its remain the same height as a stock...but most of customer who use back their stock spring with titan adjustable they can get lower right height...mostly...
Maybe there's some issues with my spring that cannot be compress in order to get lower ride height ??

Bro...thanks for your concern I believe you are one of titan people...
So far there's no other problem that Im facing right now...
Its just the quality of the ride is being the issue...
The ride is harsh and bumpy
I met with couples of guy who already use Titan and they are all satisfy with the ride quality and I even impress how well their ride setup...
They ride setup with titan adjustable are very smooth on all type of road surface and yet the cornering is also impressive...they get a comfort ride quality with stable on cornering
But when it comes to my car...its bumpy...bouncy..harsh...the only good side did I get is just cornering...even cant get a small comfort feels...
The ride quality is what make me disappointed...
Sometime I keep asking why didnt I get what most people get with their TITAN...
I even have a hard sleep everyday thinking of this...
I kept $$$$ for a long time to get Titan for my car and speed and speed a lot of $$$$ to get these Titan while Im still a student...
I would love to have it retune again but its already on 3rd tuning so I must pay for the next tuning 4th round that will cost me $$$$...
Its not fair if I pay for retune and yet still cant get a better result that most people got...
I just want to eliminate the bumpiness, bounciness and harsh...

About this issue I will discuss with the PIC to see what can I help on your problems. I understand how you feel coz i had similar issue before but not on suspension. You can find my contact at Garage Sales if you want to talk to me. Cheers

maybe.. i think u need to ask them properly what is the problem..

Ok bro...can you PM me on how can we discuss this and the solution that might help me with the proper setup...

if you still not feel ok please try to talk with a person in charge (wai loong) im sure this guy can help you thanks

I've dealed with him, he suggested me to use the rear stock spring...
I told him to make the ride as low as possible...
But once installed...The right height was unable to drop...
So I insist to reinstall their spring back...

i installed the normal titan abs (not the full coilovers) on my Nissan cube (almost same size as Myvi)
i coupled it with a Espelir lowered spring..
the ride was stable and firm... i was using a 40series tyyre...
didnt get a bumpy ride...
and i cant say its as comfortable as my myvi with stock abs + G|A|B spring..

it was harder the first week i had it, but after that, it felt better... or maybe i got used to it...
but never i classify my ride as bumpy like horse riding... only firmer...

maybe u need a different spring rate.. a softer one??
cos from what i understand, stock spring is stiffer than lowered spring...

r u sure stock spring is stiffer then lowered spring? i thought other way around..

I used to be titan user. I make mistake by wanting a hard set up. Malaysia road is really shit. So titan is very accomodating to tune till I satisfied. Its quite a few round and its FOC. I guess bcos of that now they have the 3 times limit d. I finally satisfied with a soft set up. Ride hide is 1.5 finger gap yet it didnt hit fender and very good handling. But I still feel the rear is not hard enough and did request them to change a slightly harder spring. Everytime i have passengers at the back, the spring goes down a lot. The front spring hardly move when i go in the car. They never change for me. I guess my car use a spring that they cut shorter. So I think they hesitant to cut another spring. I always feel my car feel better when my car just came out from the workshop.

Ur case maybe they already made the absorber to their spring height. So when u put the ori spring, its very high n they couldnt make changes to their absorber height already. But thats just guessing.

Most bmw, avanza they will advice to use ori spring becos all the replacement spring they have is linear type. The car I mention above the rear spring design is like top n bottom is smaller diameter than center so cannot use what they have.

Richard is the only guy know how the thing works there. Is he still there?

This post has been edited by chinteck79: Feb 18 2014, 11:02 PM

On my case all the spring use their spring...
Yes Mr Richard is still there...

I have to clarify this case on behalf of Uncle Richard. I have spoken to Uncle Richard regarding about this issue yesterday. He told me that user Dantei136 came to Titan and insisted a setting which is lowered with firm ride and yet still have the comfortness with full load of passenger on the rear as he use the car to fetch family around.

Herman was the person in charge regarding about this issue. User has been advised to use absorbers only due to the lightweight of the car. User insisted for adjustable because want to look lowered. Uncle Richard tried his best to make the ride as soft as possible and yet doesn't let the suspension to be too soft to avoid bottom's up.

After installation, user complained that the suspension was too harsh and wanted to be soften more. Wailoong came in to the picture and advice him to use stock spring for more comfort as the sport spring couldnt match the softness of the suspension.

After the stock spring installation, the ride height was raised up as you can understand the stock spring is to support the weight of the car and plus titan suspension the ride will go higher. Uncle Richard had tried his best adjust to what he need.

So guys please do comment on this case as I don't want any misunderstand regarding about Titan brand.

"I gave the car to them and I was given their persona that equip with their Titan Adjustable and I was suprise how comfy the ride is and the steering feedback while conerning is very impressive..."

even in stock condition persona is the best handling car in its class.

titan mech told me that, but i didnt believe it either...
so i insist them to change my rear spring back to standard (thinking it was softer than my Espelir lowered springs)....
had to admit, i was wrong
the ride was higher, plus harder that i had to ask them to reinstall the lowered spring ..

maybe not true for ALL cars, but i bet titan mech was speaking from experience dealing with lotsa diff cars..
so i do believe in them in some ways...

im using IMP improve adjustable coil with high-low, soft-hard and body shifted, amazingly the ride still comfortable and not too bumpy if compare my previous GAB sport spring pair with stock absorber. i even lowered it half finger from fender, spring 6k rear and 8k front, superb handling and feel stiff during cornering

This post has been edited by dadurtyz: Feb 19 2014, 03:37 PM

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This post has been edited by Andy0625: May 29 2014, 05:00 PM

i remember last time they had kancil as their demo car.. my friend's car cant follow the kancil in winding road while we were following behind..

Yes bro I did told them that I want coilover setup which is lowered with firm ride and yet still have the comfortness for at least 2 person...
NOT 'FULL LOAD' AND I'VE NEVER MENTIONED FULL LOAD...
Beside I travel IPOH-KL Weekly ALONE...

I've seen and ride most of my friends car with 2 finger gap and 2.5 finger which same as my setup tackling corners around highway without any rub on fender and tyre...and still can feel firm and comfy and most of all not harsh and bumpy
Beside most of them use some full coilover brands such as GAB, HWL, BC RACING, IMP, KYB and Even a FAKE D2 and FAKE MINES brand...

I do respect TITAN brands and I know and still believe that TITAN can do and perform much better than those brand mentioned above...
But what makes you said that you cant maintain the ride height because of rubbing issue between tyres and fender while cornering ?
Even a stock jazz ABS with ONLY TIEN Spring with 2 finger gap of for both front & rear perform well without any rubbing issues as tested around hard cornering in highway...

All I want is just not to feel 'regrets' with my choice TITAN...

Bro I'm not writing this to bash your product or service...
I need some good and useful opinions of all those other Titan User...
Until now I never ever say or think that your product is not good...Yet I'm finding some answer for the solution and solution for my situation...and still hopping that Im not making a wrong decision with this product...
Im just a customer who wants a peace both myself and your product.

This post has been edited by dantei136: Feb 20 2014, 12:24 AM

kancil/kelisa did a good job in handling due to small frame n chassis.

Bro I'm not saying that you are bashing the product or services. I'm here to clarify things as I'm represent Uncle Richard regarding about this issue. I'm here to assist you and provide solution because you are unsatisfied with the result of the product.

Regarding about full load issue, I'm not there thats why i cant say anything base on what both party told me. I'm just referring to what uncle told me. And if i'm not mistaken Wailoong or Herman already advised you not to get the adjustable but you insisted want the adjustable thats why they proceed.

FYI, those brand you mentioned above is already factory tuned and it cant be customized unless you take to revalve which will void warranty. The reason why I said cant maintain the ride height is because of stock spring is hard enough to support the car weight and plus our suspension it will make the car even higher. Reason why customer look for our product is our product can be harder than those normal coilover sell outside the market. The solution I've provided you in PM and hope you will understand the concept of how our suspension works.

no wonder my nissan cube last time had the best of both comfort and handling...
i was not using the full coilovers... just the normal titan abs...

its adjustable so adjust ler bro.. get the settings that suite you best

dn be lazy

Not that easy bro. Titan is not adjusted by turning a knob. U need their staff to take off the absorber and change some component inside. Only Richard can do it.

ah beng wants performance and same time wants comfort......good luck with that....

myself, I prefer sports bumpy cars than cars with stock shocks....better steering control and good at cornering.......comfort is secondary.... ;-)

Adjustable is never comfort...whether the ride is harsh or acceptable depends on butt feel...very individual, i got mine customize at PRS another specialist, the boss advise not to go for adjstble if its a daily driven car, and certainly not for family man..of course you have certain cases where some can accept the firmness of an adjstble, but the very thought that i have to adjust it from time to time due to the setting might run, considering the hassle...its a no no for me...

from what i know. that is due to u compressed the stock spring end up the stock spring more bumpy.
if u adjust the height as original spring should, u will get softer. provided your shock can adjust so far or not which mostly imposible.

there's one brand that can do this well - BILSTEIN

u don't need adjustables for good cornering, just need well engineered normal absorbers with stock springs to have both comfort and cornering.

also, it's well worth the money (because it's very expensive)

This post has been edited by stormlcc: Feb 21 2014, 01:09 PM

there are plenty more.. unfortunately many ricers say stiffer is always better, and often think ride comfort and handling are mutually exclusive.

there are good adjustables and there are bad adjustables. never in between.. and normally ppl will say "you get what you pay for", but for suspension, if you buy cheap adjustables, you don't get what you pay for (at least for me).

been down that road before when i'm young. now cannot tahan the stiffness anymore, getting old......

after getting my BMW with those amazing Bilstein dampers, it's the perfect setup for my age...and my style of cornering

Hi Guys...
Im back for reporting of good news that I've got...
Yesterday I was called by Them (Patrick , Wailong & Herman).
So I went there at about 10.35AM I Arrived...
There was only him at the moment ad Wailong and Mr Richard is out for breakfast...

Once Arrived I met with Herman a person Who's incharge for me since day one I step my foot to Titan HQ for installing it on my GE8...

So we have some of discussion, at first were discuss regarding a knocking that appear on the front right side.
We didnt bother about the ride issue I've got as our goal were more on the sound issue...

Well after we went thru some explanation to each other for the ride I proceed the car to them to sattle with the knocking...
Once sattle he'll proceed with the ride tuning.

So I left the car to him and I went back home.
At about 3.50 I got a called from Herman to get to him for testing the car.
I was asking to soften the front setup at least 10% while the rear setup was already softer to 15% last week the day I wrote this thread...

So every was done I arrived there and I was first saw Wailong face...
I was a bit like ( tak sampai hati la) with the way I wrote to this thread like making a harsh complained but he still smile at me while waiting me to reach him so that we could discuss more of the setup that he himsilf, herman & Mr Richard...
By the time the knocking sound was done.

So the setup on the front was soften at least 10 percent but maintaing the current ride height...
But Wailong and Herman did notified me that the front will have rub issue while tackle corner before they gave me to test the ride...
There was also one of customer (ANIL) who I know since our 2nd tuning joining with me for a test ride as he came to reduce his sentra front spring rates .

He did also said that i'll rub the fender & tyres.
So we test the ride on a slight uphill road that a bit of beralun and I try and fast as possible taking a fast corner and suddenly as what the expected (Wailong, Herman, Mr Richard and even Anil)...
It was rubbing all the when taking the hard corner without breaking.

I retured to the base (Titan) and i doubled confirm with them with rub...
So I was suggested by Herman, Wailong and Anil to raise a bit the ride height and I asked them why cant you guy make a setup that is 2 finger gap without harsh ride quality and without rubbing and they told me that the current ride height was was 1.5 finger gap...
I was shocked that time and I walked to my car and placed my 2 finger on the gap...and It was tight to enter my 2 finger...

SO HERE I WAS THE ONE WHO WAS WRONG WITH THE GAB MEASUREMENT.

IT WAS TRUE THAT IT WAS 1.5 AS WHAT THEY TOLD ME EARLIER...

So I and herman did laugh on my stupidity...Haha

So I agreed with them and proceed the setup they suggested.
Once complete they told me to get a test on highway.
I drove the car and entered mrr2 but unfortunately it was already quite heavy traffic...

I didnt get a chance to feel the ride with 2 inch gap front and rear...
So I returned to Titan but both Herman & Wailong was out already...
It was already late evening so I returned home but I doubt about the feeling of the ride as I drove my GF CAR KIA POTATO (PICANTO LER) with a boat suspension and I feels I'm high as the suspension is really floating HAHAHAH...
So I cant tell whats the feel of in my car with new setup...

I returned home without paying any even its already 4th time tuning and even Herman did whatsapp me early in the morning today asking about the ride feel...and he dont even tell me to pay...

Today I went to them again for tighten up the mounting on the rear suspension as it tends to make knock sound because according tp Mr Richard the the mounting suspension of my car only have 1 screw with a shape of mounting of 'Kuih Talam' and its not a good as other suspension
mounting it other car.

Wailong just now even detect a knock sound for me that I've didnt notice before and he did told me to change my engine mounting.
It was only appear when we hit big or harsh potholes.

I just told him to detect the knocking sound from suspension mounting yet he discover more than I imagine in order to let my ride free of unwanted sound.
But Im ok with that as long as there is no issues or sound come from the shock.
Still he never asked me to pay for the setup yesterday...
Even Anil told me that Wailong refused to charge...

Now Im writing this to report that the ride quality is start to develop on me and while I drove back home just now from titan and I enjoy how well the shock compress all the uneven road and once i reached home I stup my engine off opened my door and I said
'IT DOES FEEL LIKE IM NOT USING ADJUSTABLE' but FEELS LIKE ONLY USE SPORT SPRING BUT TAKING CORNERS LIKE HAVING ADJUSTABLE

After a long journey with this setup...
Probably the 1st fully adjustable i'VE EVER OWN and IT ALSO DOES PROVE TO ME THAT ITS THE BEST ADJUSTABLE I'VE EVER USE BESIDE KONI WHICH WAS SEMI ADJUSTABLE...

ITS YET THE BEST AND COMFY ADJUSTABLE I HAVE...

THANKS EVERYONE AND BIG THANKS TO TITAN ESPECIALLY PATRIC (FrozenIce) WHO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE TO TITAN...HERMAN WHO'S ALWAYS WITH ME INCHARGE OF ANY PROBLEM I'VE GOT AND WAILONG WHO IS ALWAYS HELP ME IN TECHNICAL PROBLEM AND INSIST ME OF HOW TO GET THE BEST SETUP THAT SUIT ME AND THE CAR...

so ... after 3 pages ... apparently it's a communication problem ... much like with everything else in this world

This post has been edited by butthead: Feb 21 2014, 10:54 PM

tat kancil is highly tuned by them ler.. wat u expect...

and got every bar you can expect fitted into it

This post has been edited by butthead: Feb 21 2014, 10:56 PM

missed out bolding the 2 keywords: ah beng

thinking the same too lol

well... whenever requirement for good cornering and comfort turns up together... it's a recipe for disaster...

good cornering is a very loose term and telling that to the people setting up your shocks is a very vague description to them on what you want exactly, add on having comfort and it even baffles them more...

i doubt many if not all people rarely drive all their 4 wheels to the limits of adhesion... what we sometimes think is the upper limits of our car is very often not quite the truth, especially when you see some idiot with a sailboat having a disregard for his own life flying past you in a corner at unbelievable speeds...

I should have seen it coming...what not with 1 1/2 fingers gap..thats ultra low...1 finger gap is only for show cars...to bring down so low, it is not possible to have comfort setting, but beg the question, how come the owner dont know the setting in the 1st place....anyway glad that its been clarified....

you mean the engineers at bilstein are bunch of ah bengs? must be dem good ah bengs since their products allow teams to win races.

I mean ah beng will not buy Bilstein

Ah beng buy bilstein sticker !

sticker alone +50 hp. why spent more to buy the real thing that don't add any horsepower

where got lah... ah beng dont even know what it is

it's all in the mind...

sure know stickers geh.

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Feb 24 2014, 11:30 AM

So dantei,
Gave up with your Titan? Selling them already?

this?


thought resolved

So I guess TS didn't get what he paid for..

edited

This post has been edited by jc120208: Apr 3 2014, 11:09 PM

I would like to share my experience on the newly bought Titan Suspension. I am on a Honda, using Titan Comfort Series suspension. This is a custom made suspension, which they will immediately "build/fabricate" your suspension after you have made your selection e.g. choosing the Comfort series.

However, the tricky part is where the suspension suit into your need. Uncle Richard is the most technical and experienced guy there, so you SHOULD only talk to him on your requirement, rather than anyone else. This is because only he will understand what you want, the rest of the staffs well, are just so-so. They are salesmen or marketing men, or... just assembly men Sorry to say, but yes, talk to Uncle Richard how you want your ride to be tuned.

As for my ride, the first impression after installing the Titan suspension was great because my Honda's stock struct is damaged, so I feel the difference after installing the Titan Suspension. However, the problem came after a few days where I hear some bearing sound ("cruk cruk") from the tyres, as if it's some damaged mounting or so. I took the car back to Titan Ampang to fix it. Apparently, that's the un-well setup of the suspension/faulty causing that sound. Uncle Richard took the responsibility to fix it. Great job.

The next week, after the fix, I noticed that the car is getting bumpier than the days before. I have tried to reduce the air pressure to a recommended measurement, increase it etc but that did not work. Then, I gave a call again to Uncle Richard. Again, he fixed it but re-tuning the struts. Today, I am trying that out and keep monitoring.

The bottom line is, it takes a couple of times to get the tuning you want, and of course, if you're unlucky like me bumping into "faulty" bearings, then you may somewhat get frustrated. However, if you have take the below precautions before you get those Titan suspension installed, probably that would reduce your frustrations.

1. Before installing the Titan Suspension, talk to Uncle Richard on your expectations and requirements
2. Titan have a few test drive cars, Wira/Persona/Satria Neo - all of them have their suspension tuned and if you tested those cars, well you will be amazed how well the suspension perform but don't expect you will get the same setup in your ride k. I bought into the idea of installing Titan Suspension after trying on their cars but didn't know that it performs out of my own expectations.
3. After testing their cars, tell Uncle Richard how you want your ride to be. E.g. less stiff than that car? Need stiffer than that car?
4. After your suspension is installed, test your car thoroughly. Don't just believe what the technicians have told you. Drive harsh, drive REAL slow, take corners, go on an uneven road slowly and hear if there are any unexpected sound from the suspension. If there is, get that rectified immediately. You will save a couple of rounds if you have rectified the sound/setup issue on the spot, instead of keep coming into the shop for re-tuning. Each time re-tuning, that would definitely take you 4 hours, at least.
5. Test your ride longer than you should. Drive further.

Good luck.

This post has been edited by guanteik: May 4 2014, 09:53 PM

Haha...Sold it already bro...

Here is some of 'Headache & Satisfaction Story From The Start Till The END'
I gave up with the suspension and luckily one of my friend who really wants to buy a set of coilover refuse to get the brand new GAS SS and proceed to get My Titan...

Luckily he understand me and got the titan from me at price of 1.7K instead of almost 2.9k I bought.
I told him if the ride isnt uncomfortable for him just send it to Titan HQ to resetup and he agreed with it.

So once dealed I make a full purchase of FTUNED RACING SUSPENSION with is a same 'Inverted Monotube' but its the 'Lotus Inverted Monotube' which every small to big components inside the coilovers are calculated with Lotus Formulation based on the (WEIGHT & PLATFORM) Of The Car.

The owner was a Ride & Handling Engineer (Group Leader) at Proton Research & Development, Chassis Engineering Section, Ride & Handling Unit and involved in various suspension development projects with Proton Engineers & Lotus Engineers. Trained by Lotus Engineering Engineers on Suspension & Chassis Development, Damper/Shock Absorber tuning and Advanced Driving Techniques. Last position at Proton, was the Group Leader for Ride & Handling team of Engineers and Technicians from 1999-2005. In Motorsports and Professional Driving, Mr. Farouk is a race driver and Instructor for Proton R&D Test Drivers. Participated in several race events, santioned and unsantioned races since 1996, including the Merdeka Millennium Endurance from the 1st MME in 2000 till the 4th MME in 2004 as race drivers and 2005 as Race Manager for a winning team. Out of passion, F Tuned Racing was formed.

The set of coilover are Hi-Lo and Adjustable Damping Hi-Lo Soft Hard.
The coilover are ready made set for my car and I choose (Road Touge Spec) which is comfortable for rough road usage and for tracking.
Even there are ready made stuff, the owner himself require me to leave the car for 2 days to make a setup that meet my expectation.
The reason of this is to get the setup that I want and SET the setup at the 'Maximum Soft Setting' of the 'Adjustable Damping Knob'.
Hence this would be the best and easier to the user to get into the setup that are most use in everyday usage incase of we were do alot of adjusting when we do some Touge / Tracking.

The spring rates of the setup now is 6K Front & 4K Rear with 2 Fingger Gap both Front & Rear.

Once done...I drove the car from smooth tarmac to high hill with bunch of holes...I was so surprise the ride quality is beyond what I expected.
The ride is very compose and balance on any surface of tarmac even with bunch of holes the absorption is very superb and its even comfy compare to the ride feels of Stock OEM Suspension when the car was new until the last moment i used it.
The steering feels is tight (Sportier Feels) on cornering as what I've felt on one of my friend BMW E46 330 Cabrio.
Steering responds is very sharp and fast.

RESULTED : Cant Say More...Conclusion is to be the right END.
-My dad who's person that enjoying his daily Comfy Big Merc Ride loves every bits of the comfy ride on my car now.
-ME...I'm smiling every bits of the excitement tackling corners with comfy rides without worrying the dashboard to come off.

what was the cost for the FTune specs.

A bit cheaper compare to Titan...
The highest price of custom made product from them for most continental / race / rare car model goes not exceed more than 4K...
The ready set coilover depends on cars models & platform range from 2-2.3K (Adjustable Height HILO) to
2.5-2.9K ( Adjustable Height & Damping HILO SOFT HARD)

The set of coilovers for my car goes for 2.9 same as Titan Price.

The Oil use by Ftuned inside of their Coilover are from Top Notch Quality Brand TORCO.




This post has been edited by dantei136: May 6 2014, 04:00 PM

I installed titan last year and to date, I have visited titan almost 10 times yet, still they could not solve my rear sound problem. Upon further investigation, found out that my spring and abs does not sit well. There were gaps. Uncle Richard took noticed and he rebuild my abs again and again. Still, it does not solve the problem.

It works well with my ride. I am on 8k 6k medium hard setup down from previous 9k 7k medium hard.

So, it takes a Potong engineer to fix a Honkdada car huh?
Got ask service one time how much RM2k per abs?
Labor fee?
Don't like Titan promise mat 7 service free for first few times then suddenly said need labor fee. Just like insurance said cover your wife pregnancy suddenly want berlabor time said no cover pulak!

Niameh pip...no black and white agreement is like that lor.

So the lesson here is don't fucuking trust titan verbally lo.
Or even Vetter, just go for the F Tuner's stuff. Name also F, sound like fucuk, hear also feels good.
TS u might want to change the title from FIXED to SOLD IT OFF TO A WATERFISH.

Haha yeah bro...
What really shocked me once I went to them for their product briefing with all sort of technical they have is there were a lot of 'Ex-Titane User' that end up being satisfied customers for FTUNED.

Things that really make up my mind is the owner it self as an engineer which graduated from United State and he once being a position of a Head Engineer for their team in Lotus & Ride handling in proton company...

So I gave them a try and finally a am I ONE HAPPY CUSTOMER

This post has been edited by dantei136: May 6 2014, 10:05 PM

*coughRCScough*

Oh? So Titan fixed your suspension "Wonderfully"?
Your thread title suggested so.

Nope at all...it was just first impression in a couple of block city driving...
Ride feel lacks of absorption...

Then you should change your thread title bro!

I am a little tempted to jump from Titan to FTuned...

Using a 1st gen titan on my satria.. IINM got it installed in 2003 when richard's brother(or cousin?) was still around (now he is selling 'tag' suspension)
It has served me well but I wanna try ftune when I have the budget.

Haha...you suggest me what is the tittle of this thread should I rename...