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post Dec 28 2016, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(Scissorshand @ Dec 15 2016, 08:38 AM)
Could it be bcos you have too many addons that comes default with the device? If you are  only using for movies, dramas and some sports, maybe you'd like to limit them to only 10 addons or so, then uninstall the rest to improve your user experience
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Uninstalled most of the addon ady. Much smoother. But kodi still crash once in a while. But at least can use it for longer period.

Other apps like megabox, modbro, iflix works smoothly n no crashing anymore. Thanks for the advice dude thumbup.gif
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post Dec 28 2016, 11:27 AM

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Maybe any of you guys can consider opening a new thread? Since this is a huge and long thread now. laugh.gif

Then add some useful information in post #1. smile.gif
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Hi..thought of buying an android box as well but cant decide to go for minix U1 or Ubox..can someone enlighten me! Thx
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QUOTE(voncrane @ Dec 28 2016, 09:37 AM)
Apps abilities to run in the background depends on the app itself having such ability and more importantly, the firmware. Majority of these boxes almost always have a built-in task killer and some firmware/kernel can be quite aggressive in killing apps. Meaning you are out of luck and have to resort to other means. Try KeepRunning, and it doesn't seem to require root.

As for the iFlix issue, its an either it works on your box or it doesn't at this time. Up to iFlix to update it to work on your box. In the past, one was able to run older versions of the iflix app, but recently they've pushed out an update and using an older version to connect to their servers...results in the app requesting (forced) for the update. Tons of android devices out there, hard for their devs to keep track and can't really blame em as the app's originally designed and maintained for small screens.
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Yeah I'm guessing it is at OOM or LMK handling. If it is at OS level, it is very hard to diagnose plus I don't have root anyway. I'll try your suggestion tonight once I'm home, thanks


QUOTE(AVFAN @ Dec 28 2016, 09:56 AM)
this problem is also seen with 2 other local providers - astro-on-the-go and hypptv everywhere.

they work on some boxes, don't work on others.

but they all work on tablets and phones.

that says the providers either intentionally block usage with boxes or simply too slow to catch up with all kinds of android boxes in the use.
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Another use case is that tvbox doesn't have DPI setup built in as it is meant to project out and adapt to output resolution, which probably what those app validates upon when it tries to parse the value of what quality by default it wish to push. Possibly once an Android TV version is out, it can work universally but don't think iFlix will put effort in that as it is not mass market yet
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post Dec 28 2016, 01:32 PM

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QUOTE(maraippo @ Dec 28 2016, 11:11 AM)
Uninstalled most of the addon ady. Much smoother. But kodi still crash once in a while. But at least can use it for longer period.

Other apps like megabox, modbro, iflix works smoothly n no crashing anymore.  Thanks for the advice dude thumbup.gif
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not enough ram?

tried spmc already?
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QUOTE(fruitie @ Dec 28 2016, 11:27 AM)
Maybe any of you guys can consider opening a new thread? Since this is a huge and long thread now. laugh.gif

Then add some useful information in post #1. smile.gif
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post #1 gonna takes a lot of time to write a comprehensive tutorial for newbie. laugh.gif
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post Dec 28 2016, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(BOTAK_WAI @ Dec 28 2016, 01:42 PM)
post #1 gonna takes a lot of time to write a comprehensive tutorial for newbie. laugh.gif
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It has to start somewhere. tongue.gif
Since Android box is so common these days. tongue.gif
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post Dec 28 2016, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(fruitie @ Dec 28 2016, 02:12 PM)
It has to start somewhere. tongue.gif
Since Android box is so common these days. tongue.gif
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but the problem is piracy issue. u know i know ok la, don't cross the line here brows.gif

common scenarios here:

1. there are always newbie comes in the thread and ask which box should i buy so that i can replace astro.

our best answer:

QUOTE(AVFAN @ Nov 3 2016, 02:12 PM)
actually, it is now very common to see, hear and read:

... more and more axtro users wanna quit.
... after quitting, they want same axtro content - for free or only a small price.
... uninformed axtro user think there must be box out there doing all that with minimal or no personal effort.

alas... the truth... axtro is eating in a restaurant; android box is cooking at home.

not the same, maybe similar in some ways.

the cook needs to know the oven, the wok, the knives, the ingredients, the recipes.

a good cook needs to learn, watch videos, search for info, experiment.
well... some people enjoy cooking, some don't.

the good cooks get to eat better food at a lower price!

poor cooks get to eat little or return to restaurant.
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2. there are always newbie comes in the thread and ask what app can i download so that i could stream movie, drama, football match, either in live or on-demand.

answer: you need legal content, you need to pay subscription to service like netflix, iflix…

all these movie, drama, football match, and other broadcast contents are copyright protected. u want ask for free streaming for all these contents? u pandai pandai la…here not allow piracy contents sharing 1 mah…go google the discussion keyword by yourself la…

3. there will be newbie comes in the thread and ask why some android tv box sellers sell their box so expensive and why i saw gb and laz got selling cheap tv box, what's the difference?

answer: in pc world, u know the difference between download torrent by yourself and buy dvd from pasar malam right?

4. there will be newbie comes in the thread and ask why some pre-installed apps work when newly buy but can't watch over some period.

answer: if legal content, it might be trial period ends. if illegal content (be it free or paid), of course it is not 100% guaranteed to work la…even pirated dvd stall in pasar malam with taiko protection also will kena sapu la. pirated online contents also the same, but they have 1 common characteristic: I WILL BE BACK! (just in another form or place)
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post Dec 28 2016, 03:05 PM

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QUOTE(BOTAK_WAI @ Dec 28 2016, 03:01 PM)
but the problem is piracy issue. u know i know ok la, don't cross the line here brows.gif

common scenarios here:

1. there are always newbie comes in the thread and ask which box should i buy so that i can replace astro.

our best answer:
2. there are always newbie comes in the thread and ask what app can i download so that i could stream movie, drama, football match, either in live or on-demand.

answer: you need legal content, you need to pay subscription to service like netflix, iflix…

all these movie, drama, football match, and other broadcast contents are copyright protected. u want ask for free streaming for all these contents? u pandai pandai la…here not allow piracy contents sharing 1 mah…go google the discussion keyword by yourself la…

3. there will be newbie comes in the thread and ask why some android tv box sellers sell their box so expensive and why i saw gb and laz got selling cheap tv box, what's the difference?

answer: in pc world, u know the difference between download torrent by yourself and buy dvd from pasar malam right?

4. there will be newbie comes in the thread and ask why some pre-installed apps work when newly buy but can't watch over some period.

answer: if legal content, it might be trial period ends. if illegal content (be it free or paid), of course it is not 100% guaranteed to work la…even pirated dvd stall in pasar malam with taiko protection also will kena sapu la. pirated online contents also the same, but they have 1 common characteristic: I WILL BE BACK! (just in another form or place)
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laugh.gif This is already a good start. tongue.gif
Anyway, yes don't cross the line for piracy discussion. wink.gif
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post Dec 28 2016, 03:37 PM

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Has anyone here tried GCI TV Box

http://www.11street.my/productdetail/gci-tv-box-25408251

I saw most the xiaomi box in chinese.

I subscribed to iflix...I am thinking to wait for good offer chromecast 2 if no satisfactory tv box available
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QUOTE(fruitie @ Dec 28 2016, 03:05 PM)
laugh.gif This is already a good start. tongue.gif
Anyway, yes don't cross the line for piracy discussion. wink.gif
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Compared to setup a htpc, android box already very easy and convenient liao. laugh.gif

well, perfect customization for oneself on kodi or spmc takes time for very new user to master it. my first try on kodi is on pc (XBMC v13 Gotham), and i wow when using it to manage my local video files, impressive GUI. i think lazy ppl won't enjoy using kodi tongue.gif now i only use spmc for icdrama and watch dvd iso file, haha…

btw, few rules for newbies:

1. No Perfect Android Box in the World, period.
2. No 100% Guaranteed Working Apps or Add-Ons.
3. No Spoon Feeding.
4. No Replacement for Paid Subscription Service like Asteruk, etc…
5. No Piracy in LYN Forum.
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post Dec 28 2016, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(BOTAK_WAI @ Dec 28 2016, 03:47 PM)
Compared to setup a htpc, android box already very easy and convenient liao. laugh.gif

well, perfect customization for oneself on kodi or spmc takes time for very new user to master it. my first try on kodi is on pc (XBMC v13 Gotham), and i wow when using it to manage my local video files, impressive GUI. i think lazy ppl won't enjoy using kodi tongue.gif now i only use spmc for icdrama and watch dvd iso file, haha…
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I also use Icdrama/Azdrama on Kodi and some IPTVs for my normal dose.
Hardly have time to sit down and relax to watch movies these days. tongue.gif
Purposely bought a new box to bring to overseas so that I won't be bored in India for 5 weeks...
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post Dec 28 2016, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(BOTAK_WAI @ Dec 28 2016, 03:01 PM)
but the problem is piracy issue. u know i know ok la, don't cross the line here brows.gif

common scenarios here:

1. there are always newbie comes in the thread and ask which box should i buy so that i can replace astro.

our best answer:
2. there are always newbie comes in the thread and ask what app can i download so that i could stream movie, drama, football match, either in live or on-demand.

answer: you need legal content, you need to pay subscription to service like netflix, iflix…

all these movie, drama, football match, and other broadcast contents are copyright protected. u want ask for free streaming for all these contents? u pandai pandai la…here not allow piracy contents sharing 1 mah…go google the discussion keyword by yourself la…

3. there will be newbie comes in the thread and ask why some android tv box sellers sell their box so expensive and why i saw gb and laz got selling cheap tv box, what's the difference?

answer: in pc world, u know the difference between download torrent by yourself and buy dvd from pasar malam right?

4. there will be newbie comes in the thread and ask why some pre-installed apps work when newly buy but can't watch over some period.

answer: if legal content, it might be trial period ends. if illegal content (be it free or paid), of course it is not 100% guaranteed to work la…even pirated dvd stall in pasar malam with taiko protection also will kena sapu la. pirated online contents also the same, but they have 1 common characteristic: I WILL BE BACK! (just in another form or place)
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I have actually posted such comments many times in this thread. biggrin.gif

I can repost them in a new thread.

About the download, app issue, i will only discuss the apps, the contents in a general sense, never the specifics like what show, what channel, what torrent, etc. That, people should be sensible enough not to ask in public but use pm.

About those ahem payable iptvs, discussion should not be allowed, at least not in this section. Once one fella starts, it will go on and on... what channels, where to buy, how much, sellers jump in.... and the thread becomes a venue for illegal piracy biz. This bit should be confined in home garage sales section, interested parties can pm, do your private thing.

This post has been edited by AVFAN: Dec 28 2016, 04:22 PM
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post Dec 28 2016, 05:01 PM

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QUOTE(fruitie @ Dec 28 2016, 11:06 AM)
Now only I know the iflix's error is actually box problem, I thought it was iflix's problem. laugh.gif
OK lo, then time to remove it from my box.. sad.gif
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Yes.. It's been a Box issue. Some manufacturers (I.e. Minix) actually work hard on making their firmwares as compatible as possible to the numerous media apps.. At minimum, the stable ones, rather than drive by type apps.

QUOTE(Newbie2109 @ Dec 28 2016, 11:43 AM)
Hi..thought of buying an android box as well but cant decide to go for minix U1 or Ubox..can someone enlighten me! Thx
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Minix Neo U1 owner here.. Before I recommend it.
Have you searched this thread for reviews of the Neo U1? I and a few have left our opinions.
BTW, what are your main concerns?

QUOTE(pluginbaby @ Dec 28 2016, 12:52 PM)
Yeah I'm guessing it is at OOM or LMK handling. If it is at OS level, it is very hard to diagnose plus I don't have root anyway. I'll try your suggestion tonight once I'm home, thanks
Another use case is that tvbox doesn't have DPI setup built in as it is meant to project out and adapt to output resolution, which probably what those app validates upon when it tries to parse the value of what quality by default it wish to push. Possibly once an Android TV version is out, it can work universally but don't think iFlix will put effort in that as it is not mass market yet
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Precisely, unlike most easily moddable phones and tablets, where with root, DPI and even device type amongst others, can be faked... Doing such on the typical box running what's summarily an android tablet with the android OS being output via HDMI or similar. I was happy when the Android TV OS was released and while it should replace what most use today.. Its adoption and growth rate isn't as anticipated. Time will tell.

Kinda funny, cuz due to how the Android OS works, most are more concerned about apps running in the background, using up the battery, than having one running constantly.. Well, with TV boxes, battery life isn't a factor.. smile.gif

QUOTE(BOTAK_WAI @ Dec 28 2016, 01:42 PM)
post #1 gonna takes a lot of time to write a comprehensive tutorial for newbie. laugh.gif
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Yes.. Plus I guarantee that some newbie will still come into the new thread and ask that dreaded question...
"I'm new, pls recommend me an Android box to watch live tv, tv shows and movies"....Oh yeah, and as if that's not enough.... "Full HD yeah"..... doh.gif bangwall.gif

QUOTE(fruitie @ Dec 28 2016, 02:12 PM)
It has to start somewhere. tongue.gif
Since Android box is so common these days. tongue.gif
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Hey, it's only 203 pages.. tongue.gif good that others have chipped in on how I feel about a new thread.. However, I understand that at some point it becomes inevitable.. Till then... smile.gif

This post has been edited by voncrane: Dec 28 2016, 05:03 PM
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QUOTE(voncrane @ Dec 28 2016, 05:01 PM)
Yes.. It's been a Box issue. Some manufacturers (I.e. Minix) actually work hard on making their firmwares as compatible as possible to the numerous media apps.. At minimum, the stable ones, rather than drive by type apps.

Hey, it's only 203 pages.. tongue.gif  good that others have chipped in on how I feel about a new thread.. However, I understand that at some point it becomes inevitable.. Till then...  smile.gif
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So surprised the HyppTV box worked with iflix previously, just that now cannot use anymore with latest version. sad.gif
On my new box, it can open everything but cannot load videos. cry.gif

It is more than enough to start a new thread and make it comprehensive. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(fruitie @ Dec 28 2016, 05:08 PM)
So surprised the HyppTV box worked with iflix previously, just that now cannot use anymore with latest version. sad.gif
On my new box, it can open everything but cannot load videos. cry.gif
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iflix, hypptv e'where and atog all worked on any box in the beginning.

then they all stop working with updates for most boxes.



iflix does not work on my box but work on my android tv.

beats me why there is no diff with all other apps.
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Dec 28 2016, 05:16 PM)
iflix, hypptv e'where and atog all worked on any box in the beginning.

then they all stop working with updates for most boxes.
iflix does not work on my box but work on my android tv.

beats me why there is no diff with all other apps.
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Just iflix. HyppTV Everywhere and AOTG still work on the basic Huawei box. laugh.gif

I don't want my box to be rooted actually and cannot use AOTG now. sad.gif

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QUOTE(fruitie @ Dec 28 2016, 03:56 PM)
I also use Icdrama/Azdrama on Kodi and some IPTVs for my normal dose.
Hardly have time to sit down and relax to watch movies these days. tongue.gif
Purposely bought a new box to bring to overseas so that I won't be bored in India for 5 weeks...
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yea, no time to enjoy is also one of the reasons more ppl want to switch from asteruk to android tv.

this is my opinion la…dulu ppl subscribe to asteruk because:
1. they want more variety of contents.
2. they want watch epl.
3. they unable to have clear signal reception on free to air tv.

but now:
1. high speed broadband is expensive in malaysia, ppl might just cut asteruk and subscribe to 30Mbps broadband package since ppl now need high internet speed for working and entertainment purpose.

2. android box now can live stream or watch it on demand many contents thanks to legal and illegal content providers, so asteruk now is for lazy/non tech savvy ppl. for chinese, we can opt to watch contents from all over the world. for malay, i bet older generation ppl still prefer local malay contents right? support la asteruk, else asteruk no profit = no more local malay contents production. sometimes really worry all malay youngsters being kpop kdrama oriented sweat.gif this is not healthy for our country man…

3. poor free to air signal reception? TM got Hypp TV, RTM and Media Prima got DVB-T2 broadcasting now, asteruk terpaksa introduce Njoy laugh.gif


I bet sure got asteruk marketing ppl lurking here, if u don't want to lose more profis due online iptvs, u gotta attract ppl subscribe to your service like partnering with telco, now ppl tied to telco contract due to free smartphone. kinda hate tm now, focus on your broadband infrastructure la, why play with hypp tv, force bundled with unifi package, but no produce good original contents. better kill the hypp tv and partnership with asteruk for original local contents production. ISP builds infrastructure, Content Provider creates contents.

These big companies macam this story:
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QUOTE(fruitie @ Dec 28 2016, 05:20 PM)
Just iflix. HyppTV Everywhere and AOTG still work on the basic Huawei box. laugh.gif

I don't want my box to be rooted actually and cannot use AOTG now. sad.gif
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i do not know how particular u r with HD vs SD...

me, over time, i start to ignore SD stuff.

so, those 3 iptv apps don't matter much to me.

iflix... is SD... i now hardly watch it even tho it's free for another year.

hypptv e'where, i put on my phone to catch news sometimes.

hypptv 1080i with the STB is good, i use that quite a bit.

aotg - tried before, quality is 360; i can get 720 for some of those channels with other apps.
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QUOTE(BOTAK_WAI @ Dec 28 2016, 05:26 PM)
yea, no time to enjoy is also one of the reasons more ppl want to switch from asteruk to android tv.

this is my opinion la…dulu ppl subscribe to asteruk because:
1. they want more variety of contents.
2. they want watch epl.
3. they unable to have clear signal reception on free to air tv.

but now:
1. high speed broadband is expensive in malaysia, ppl might just cut asteruk and subscribe to 30Mbps broadband package since ppl now need high internet speed for working and entertainment purpose.

2. android box now can live stream or watch it on demand many contents thanks to legal and illegal content providers, so asteruk now is for lazy/non tech savvy ppl. for chinese, we can opt to watch contents from all over the world. for malay, i bet older generation ppl still prefer local malay contents right? support la asteruk, else asteruk no profit = no more local malay contents production. sometimes really worry all malay youngsters being kpop kdrama oriented sweat.gif this is not healthy for our country man…

3. poor free to air signal reception? TM got Hypp TV, RTM and Media Prima got DVB-T2 broadcasting now, asteruk terpaksa introduce Njoy laugh.gif
I bet sure got asteruk marketing ppl lurking here, if u don't want to lose more profis due online iptvs, u gotta attract ppl subscribe to your service like partnering with telco, now ppl tied to telco contract due to free smartphone. kinda hate tm now, focus on your broadband infrastructure la, why play with hypp tv, force bundled with unifi package, but no produce good original contents. better kill the hypp tv and partnership with asteruk for original local contents production. ISP builds infrastructure, Content Provider creates contents.

These big companies macam this story:
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Dec 28 2016, 05:28 PM)
i do not know how particular u r with HD vs SD...

me, over time, i start to ignore SD stuff.

so, those 3 iptv apps don't matter much to me.

iflix... is SD... i now hardly watch it even tho it's free for another year.

hypptv e'where, i put on my phone to catch news sometimes.

hypptv 1080i with the STB is good, i use that quite a bit.

aotg - tried before, quality is 360; i can get 720 for some of those channels with other apps.
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Though I hate to admit this but AOTG is still smooth compared to other IPTVs which may be out of service after a while. laugh.gif
That said I will only miss it when I have live badminton matches. tongue.gif

I still can find way to watch, no worries. biggrin.gif

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