I read somewhere that people who buy high RV car normally is not a rich person. They need high RV coz they cannot afford to put high d/p for next new car, hence RV helps them a lot to minimize burning to their wallet...
As a return, they need to sacrifice other features like safety or gadgets just for a sake of RV...

Dunno... i prefer old k5...

nah 7 years is enough to pay for a car that you love and maintain. sell it for a nice DP which is at least 20k. not bad what, why is everyone clamoring for high RV.

They're people like to chg cars often once warranty finished for less headache...
They never wait for 7 yrs...

7 years is mostly the loan time to finish eh. btw if warranty finish then its up to maintenance and how well you treat your car

Nowadays most car manufacturers offer 5 years unlimited mileage warranties. So not a real issue. Plus warranties only cover defects not wear & tear except for BMW's BSRI package.

people who bought a car based on resale value is totally poor, i cannot brain how they can buy a car that have poor safety feature, ancient engine, and high price car compare to what u get, is totally no brainer..dont butthurt ah vios owner

If the car can fetch one from a to b, at the lowest cost, lowest maintenance cost, least headache, good low rpm torque and ferry few chicks along the way is their choice so I also kenot brain why u so kepo ppl punya choice , did you down-payment for their car . It's mind-blowing



This post has been edited by wayfeel: Feb 5 2014, 01:09 AM

You don't have to read it from somewhere to notice that RV affect middle to low class people. 90% ppl not rich so yes RV does matter to many ppl. problem?
Get high dp for next new car is not something to be complained over about right?

I do get it that safety is important but accident is not your everyday matter in one's life...I mean, it is not a be all and end all matter. It is not an immediate life and death thing....like insurance, it is important but not everyone buys or believe in insurance....some ppl still believe the old method over insurance as alternative or 'drive slow' for matter of 'safer' car.
Lastime ppl drive also without safety where got all these safety jargons VSC ESC etc ppl still get to somewhere safely.

I'm not advocating that we should get a car with less safety, I do think that we should...BESIDES, what car nowadays that do not have safety mah? (referring to toyota lines but i'm not well versed of their features/specs. If they don't , they should buck up. if they do, between toyota and a korean, I dont think choosing toyota is bad either due to the better RV as determinant. not a problem ya?

Just saying, RV is really seem more immediate benefit to ppl who change their vehicles often ie. transport companies who replace their vehicles very frequently, RV does direct impact their spreadsheet more than safety concerns or a single executive who prefers a good down-payment over safety. So why is it a 'no-brainer'? is puzzling to me that some ppl cannot brain why still many prefer RV over safety.



This post has been edited by wayfeel: Feb 5 2014, 01:24 AM

buy saga sv instant saving of rm30k against vios - dont even need to talk about RV
buy preve instant saving of 40k against altis - another example of dont even need to talk about RV

can't think of a D-segment against Camry.. but you get the idea. if you want to talk about resale value.. it's more practical to think of a car which has similar functionality and even better both technically and practically in the first place in terms of pricing. Preve after 5 year sell rm 25k for example.. i'm pretty sure you can get more than that, as compared to a 5 year old altis which most likely fetch 60k - 70k for example. Use your fingers and count how much you have lost there before you talk about resale value.

lol..at first u said rv matters to mid and low class people..then at the last point u said its the most important thing for those who frequently change car..do the mid and low people change their car sooo frequent?

Now i know why people ignore safety, cause they think can choose when they will accident..lol

This post has been edited by phantom_zero: Feb 5 2014, 07:40 AM

I think uve got the whole safety thing wrong. Safety is NOT insurance and no where even similar to insurance. Insurance deals with your ability to pay for medical costs or your dependants welfare. Safety is LIFE itself. Accidents are not your everyday matter but all it takes is ONE accident and someone's life is out the door. Are you willing to take a gamble on safety assuming that you wont get into an accident?

In all my years of driving, ive never experienced a high speed tyre blowout but early last year i did and if it wasnt for the stability control function on my car, i would have ended up smashing into the trailer i was overtaking on the highway when it happened or slamming into the guardrail. Yes i never had any use for stability control for 99% of my driving time all these years but that one time was all i needed and if it wasnt for it, i may not be here writing this now.

So in short, let's not take away any importance from safety. Car owners should never compromise on safety and should never choose resale value over it. ABS, EBD, BA, Stability Control, Traction Control and at least 4 airbags should be compulsory in any car. As long as consumers in Malaysia continue to purchase cars with substandard safety features, car manufacturers will continue to sell them. UMW Toyota not making VSC a standard feature in all Altis models is a joke and they should be boycotted for that. Would Toyota dare sell a car without VSC in America or Australia? So why are Malaysians accepting non VSC equipped cars here?

Even Paultan is a strong advocate for safety especially Stability Control:
http://paultan.org/2012/06/27/esp-stabilit...-in-their-cars/

Well said mate.

Some people are just still living in a thick shell of their own, choosing to bet on their lives over money and worst the so called RV over safety features. No HUMAN can predict or forecast when a life threatening/taking accident may happen and u ain't got no spare for life.

It is about time for a wake up call to those who are still living in the thick shell of theirs to break apart and look into the importance of life and how deep the impact of safety features in our daily ridden car to our precious life if an accident occur.

It will be the least that we can do and even offer comfort instead of gloating and mourning what we could have done, who to blame when an accident happened.

This post has been edited by kirakun: Feb 5 2014, 10:45 AM

Proton "Accord" perdana can compare to Camry ?

can compare but need to wait for it to appear in the market first. As of now Camry still leading geh.. how much is sonata vs camry?

then mybe we all should buy preve n saga and not buy japs is that what you are saying? Previously, I stated RV is influential to many ppl and perceive it alittle over safety but i didnt say brand doesnt top it all. So brand loyalty is so much stronger than anything else



This post has been edited by wayfeel: Feb 5 2014, 02:26 PM

matters means RV factor is a consideration in their decision making, not necessarily integral/prime.

Do u know middle class income ppl is categorized as earning from rm3500-12000 per month including execs and managers who earning in that paycheck region?

many ppl I know in my network in that salary range do change car very often, almost every 2-7 years...that is considered very often d and arent they are middle class ppl?

I mean it is still seem apparently important in their decision making, I'm merely explaining their behavior NOT JUSTIFYING why they should get a good RV car....:sigh:

so just say you are buying the brand name la. don't need to putar here and there talk about RV and all the other bullshit because it doesn't make sense anymore when you did not choose a rm48k car over a rm80k car...

Coz I thought we were talking about the good RV Toyota altis or the feature-laden & safety kia Cerato. So I tot we were discussing about RV or safety.

paying approx 20k upfront is calling as better resale value?

So paying 20K less upfront makes it better RV? RV stands for resell value....resell, means residual amount when you resell back to secondary market
I didn't write up the articles in the internet about toyota being the RV king. Guys in the internet did



This post has been edited by wayfeel: Feb 6 2014, 04:17 AM