lol u mad bro?

RV = Resale value. Not resell value.

I think what he meant was that you have to look at the percentage of the RV instead of the value itself since the original purchase price may be different. Simple math.

Ok. Acceptable. I get it.
but most ppl in the internet says toyota is RV king so I just circulate the information only. It didn't originate from me, I'm to lazy to mental calculate

I also dont know why no one ever even mention proton is good in RV, percentage wise.

Bro, I would like to re-emphasize your statements about the importance of ESP/ESC with following videos.


ESP immediately kicked in to prevent fishtailing.
At 00:08, automatic hazard warning lights activated by BCM (triggered by ESP control module via CAN bus protocol) to alert other motorists.



Car without ESP, fishtail and crashed.
What A lucky b@st@rd! Almost wiped out by truck.



Four Little Words that could save your life or the life of a loved one.

Wow... 1st video is similar to how i overtake when there's a dumb drive slowly on most right lane...
Anyway ur video isn't useful here in msia where RV is still a top priority... hehehe...

That is the problem with most people, they see the end figure not the total money they lost during 5 years period. They still feel proud on their RV when they lost much in the exchange.

By ratio, of course we can see car with higher price will drop more after several years compared to cheap cars like proton, eventhough that car can be consider as RV king. We cannot compare altis and surprima because for me suprima is cheap. Try compare altis and proton perdana, or proton waja chansellor, see how many price depreciate

Exactly. Restate... total money lost.

Disagree.
In spite of different purchase price, cars should be comparable... if the give you similar value somewhat (note value, not price) or class.
E.g. Inspira vs. Altis. Both give similar 'value' i.e. c-segment with all bells & whistles.
Altis and Perdana would are of different class/segment.

is Altis thai or local made?

My personal opinion is to find out the total expense for a car after driving for n years. For the current scenario, let's say I take a 5 years 90% loan. I can calculate how much exactly I need to spend on installments for 5 years, roadtax, approximate insurance and original service center maintenance (Cerato first 3 years is free). So installment + roadtax + insurance + maintenance are my total expense. Assuming in reality that Kia car depreciates faster than Toyota car by 5% more, I can estimate the resale value and minus off from my total expense. Coupled with some incentives when I purchase the car - NCD55%, car discount, dealer discount etc., then I can find out my NET EXPENSE. Of course, this does not include the Time Value of Money which is more complicated.

And hence, Toyota Altis (RM114K) and Kia Cerato (99.888K), after 5 years, RV is RM58K and RM36K respectively. However, you will also spend more for Altis, given higher installment, road tax, insurance and maintenance. At the end, the Net Spend for both cars is about the same, slightly more than RM70K. That means resale value is immaterial now, and main consideration should be on other aspects such as safety, features, design, service, quality etc.

Waiting jolokia to calc his own formula...

How on earth u get Altis 58K & Cerato 36K price after 5 years ??

Why ? U need any lorry ?

What rv also no use la when the car cant even save ur life.

Alamak... all nissan salesman like this kaaa...
Answer lain jawab lain...
Patut la asyik tipu cust je ckp almeera is good... lolz...

Is he a Nissan salesman?

yes.. see below...
Why don't u PM me i'll give u special offer for Navara Truck if not enough UD Lorry sure can fit in Furniture, LOL... why u intend to buy ? Bed ?
Why should they pay another 10K extra for a smaller Vios & Fiesta ?? Almera is cheaper & bigger

and the best part he asked facts from others but in reality he also come out with blindness figures...
Didn't according to ur goodself Almera doens't look safe ? yet it pass US crash test with flying color.
Teana & Sylphy pass Japanese crash test, Lavina pass China crash test.
Come on u need to show us some link or paper to believe what u claim on the costing is indeed truth, or everybody can too come out with baseless figure

Referring to below post, I see a lot of "No" features for Almera and Sentra.
Nissan Sentra failed miserably.

[Thread link]

Donno ! am not familiar with Nissan salesman, do u happened to know any ?

Almera not Almeera, why ? u become like Dr Jayraptor deliberately spell it incorrectly, worried of Tan Chong Transfer ?? lol..

Are u a Naza/Kia salesman ?

Sentra is same generation with Spectra & Old Elantra, I don't find these car is rich in features either.

As for Almera isn't King Vios is equally "Dry" in features, so is Accent.

BTW this thread is Altis 1.8 vs Cerato 1.6, try not to divert to Nissan & Jolokia.

Oh almera, tertekan 'e' 2x lak...
Jayraptor tu mmg hampeh, baca stmt dia pun kawey dok pahey...
Mmg la altis vs cerato thread tp ada 1 nissan salesman tu nyibuk cite pasai RV
Until now x tau tekan calc lg... dia tau tekan keyb warrior jeee...

This post has been edited by sitescope: Feb 9 2014, 05:42 PM