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 Toyota Altis 1.8 versus Kia Cerato 1.6, Which should I buy?

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wayfeel
post Feb 5 2014, 01:06 AM

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QUOTE(phantom_zero @ Feb 4 2014, 09:51 PM)
people who bought a car based on resale value is totally poor, i cannot brain how they can buy a car that have poor safety feature, ancient engine, and high price car compare to what u get, is totally no brainer..dont butthurt ah vios owner  whistling.gif
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If the car can fetch one from a to b, at the lowest cost, lowest maintenance cost, least headache, good low rpm torque and ferry few chicks along the way is their choice so I also kenot brain why u so kepo ppl punya choice , did you down-payment for their car . It's mind-blowing whistling.gif



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post Feb 5 2014, 01:21 AM

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QUOTE(sitescope @ Feb 4 2014, 06:23 PM)
I read somewhere that people who buy high RV car normally is not a rich person. They need high RV coz they cannot afford to put high d/p for next new car, hence RV helps them a lot to minimize burning to their wallet...
As a return, they need to sacrifice other features like safety or gadgets just for a sake of RV...
Dunno... i prefer old k5...
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You don't have to read it from somewhere to notice that RV affect middle to low class people. 90% ppl not rich so yes RV does matter to many ppl. problem?
Get high dp for next new car is not something to be complained over about right?

I do get it that safety is important but accident is not your everyday matter in one's life...I mean, it is not a be all and end all matter. It is not an immediate life and death thing....like insurance, it is important but not everyone buys or believe in insurance....some ppl still believe the old method over insurance as alternative or 'drive slow' for matter of 'safer' car.
Lastime ppl drive also without safety where got all these safety jargons VSC ESC etc ppl still get to somewhere safely.

I'm not advocating that we should get a car with less safety, I do think that we should...BESIDES, what car nowadays that do not have safety mah? (referring to toyota lines but i'm not well versed of their features/specs. If they don't , they should buck up. if they do, between toyota and a korean, I dont think choosing toyota is bad either due to the better RV as determinant. not a problem ya?

Just saying, RV is really seem more immediate benefit to ppl who change their vehicles often ie. transport companies who replace their vehicles very frequently, RV does direct impact their spreadsheet more than safety concerns or a single executive who prefers a good down-payment over safety. So why is it a 'no-brainer'? is puzzling to me that some ppl cannot brain why still many prefer RV over safety.



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post Feb 5 2014, 02:11 PM

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QUOTE(kidmad @ Feb 5 2014, 07:27 AM)
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buy saga sv instant saving of rm30k against vios - dont even need to talk about RV
buy preve instant saving of 40k against altis - another example of dont even need to talk about RV

can't think of a D-segment against Camry.. but you get the idea. if you want to talk about resale value.. it's more practical to think of a car which has similar functionality and even better both technically and practically in the first place in terms of pricing. Preve after 5 year sell rm 25k for example.. i'm pretty sure you can get more than that, as compared to a 5 year old altis which most likely fetch 60k - 70k for example. Use your fingers and count how much you have lost there before you talk about resale value.
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then mybe we all should buy preve n saga and not buy japs is that what you are saying? Previously, I stated RV is influential to many ppl and perceive it alittle over safety but i didnt say brand doesnt top it all. So brand loyalty is so much stronger than anything else icon_idea.gif



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QUOTE(phantom_zero @ Feb 5 2014, 07:38 AM)
lol..at first u said rv matters to mid and low class people..then at the last point u said its the most important thing for those who frequently change car..do the mid and low people change their car sooo frequent?

Now i know why people ignore safety, cause they think can choose when they will accident..lol
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matters means RV factor is a consideration in their decision making, not necessarily integral/prime.

Do u know middle class income ppl is categorized as earning from rm3500-12000 per month including execs and managers who earning in that paycheck region?

many ppl I know in my network in that salary range do change car very often, almost every 2-7 years...that is considered very often d and arent they are middle class ppl?

I mean it is still seem apparently important in their decision making, I'm merely explaining their behavior NOT JUSTIFYING why they should get a good RV car....:sigh:


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QUOTE(kidmad @ Feb 5 2014, 02:52 PM)
so just say you are buying the brand name la. don't need to putar here and there talk about RV and all the other bullshit because it doesn't make sense anymore when you did not choose a rm48k car over a rm80k car...
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Coz I thought we were talking about the good RV Toyota altis or the feature-laden & safety kia Cerato. So I tot we were discussing about RV or safety.
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QUOTE(kidmad @ Feb 5 2014, 08:54 PM)
paying approx 20k upfront is calling as better resale value?
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So paying 20K less upfront makes it better RV? RV stands for resell value....resell, means residual amount when you resell back to secondary market
I didn't write up the articles in the internet about toyota being the RV king. Guys in the internet did biggrin.gif



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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Feb 6 2014, 10:48 AM)

I think what he meant was that you have to look at the percentage of the RV instead of the value itself since the original purchase price may be different. Simple math.
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Ok. Acceptable. I get it.
but most ppl in the internet says toyota is RV king so I just circulate the information only. It didn't originate from me, I'm to lazy to mental calculate biggrin.gif

I also dont know why no one ever even mention proton is good in RV, percentage wise.

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