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 Toyota Altis 1.8 versus Kia Cerato 1.6, Which should I buy?

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TSchingkang
post Jan 29 2014, 10:34 AM, updated 12y ago

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Hi Forumers,

I am choosing between a Toyota Altis 1.8 and a Kia Cerato 1.6. Both are C-segment cars.

Advantages of buying a Kia Cerato 1.6
- Cheaper price of RM99,888
- Cheaper installment
- Cheaper road tax
- Cheaper insurance
- Free 3 years services including parts and labour
- 5 years warranty
- More gadgets and safety - cruise control, vehicle stability management, 6 airbags
- Better dealer discount

Advantages of buying a Toyota Altis 1.8 (RM116,990 with navigation)
- Better resale value, lower depreciation rate
- Perceived better quality
- Good after sales service
- Good Brand

So far my concern is on after sales service by Naza Kia. While resale value is better for Toyota, given that we have to buy at higher price plus some other spending over the first 5 years (road tax, insurance, services etc.), this factor is not significant. Quality is subjective, both seems good from first hand test drive and feeling. Brand is less important compared to other factors.

Anyone can shed some lights on the after sales service? And if any other concern that I should be aware of when choosing these two cars?

Thank you.
Boy96
post Jan 29 2014, 10:54 AM

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So far I have been in facebook groups of Kia Rio,Cerato, Forte, K5 and I dont see any complaints regarding their service centre.. Mostly the owners there spend money modifying the cars..

Diffent situation at VW and Peugeot group though.. So I can say Kia is still pretty reliable
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post Jan 29 2014, 12:48 PM

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You should compare with 2.0 Cerato..Since the price gap would be closer with 1.8 Altis
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post Jan 29 2014, 04:11 PM

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if got budget for altis might as well go for cerato 2.0.
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post Jan 29 2014, 04:54 PM

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Altis looks better than Cerato.
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post Jan 29 2014, 06:40 PM

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QUOTE(theanswer @ Jan 29 2014, 04:11 PM)
if got budget for altis might as well go for cerato 2.0.
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Yeap ! Strange fellow comparing car with difference of 16K ?? unsure.gif
QUOTE(jepakazoid_82 @ Jan 29 2014, 04:54 PM)
Altis looks better than Cerato.
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Most definately icon_rolleyes.gif

The more i look at Cerato the urglier it get, totally no character. shakehead.gif
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post Jan 29 2014, 06:44 PM

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QUOTE(chingkang @ Jan 29 2014, 10:34 AM)
Hi Forumers,

I am choosing between a Toyota Altis 1.8 and a Kia Cerato 1.6. Both are C-segment cars.

Advantages of buying a Kia Cerato 1.6
- Cheaper price of RM99,888
- Cheaper installment
- Cheaper road tax
- Cheaper insurance
- Free 3 years services including parts and labour
- 5 years warranty
- More gadgets and safety - cruise control, vehicle stability management, 6 airbags
- Better dealer discount

Advantages of buying a Toyota Altis 1.8 (RM116,990 with navigation)
- Better resale value, lower depreciation rate
- Perceived better quality
- Good after sales service
- Good Brand

So far my concern is on after sales service by Naza Kia. While resale value is better for Toyota, given that we have to buy at higher price plus some other spending over the first 5 years (road tax, insurance, services etc.), this factor is not significant. Quality is subjective, both seems good from first hand test drive and feeling. Brand is less important compared to other factors.

Anyone can shed some lights on the after sales service? And if any other concern that I should be aware of when choosing these two cars?

Thank you.
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Naza service at Kota Damansara is top notch. Service here instead.

Toyota again? Not afraid stolen a few weeks / months driving it?

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post Jan 29 2014, 07:26 PM

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QUOTE(jolokia @ Jan 29 2014, 06:40 PM)
Yeap ! Strange fellow comparing car with difference of 16K ??  unsure.gif

Most definately  icon_rolleyes.gif

The more i look at Cerato the urglier it get, totally no character.
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if there is one thing I would really complain about the Cerato's design, it's the tail lamp when switched on during the night.
It looked like a really swollen pair of eyes. doh.gif
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post Jan 29 2014, 07:32 PM

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Toyota altis all the way bro. I test drove the latest 1.8 and the engine is so freaking smooth, it makes the cerato 1.6 i test drove before feel like its from the 90s.

Nothing beats toyota service centres!
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post Jan 29 2014, 07:33 PM

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If the extra 16k is not an issue, you should go for the Altis.

Lesser accessories, lesser headache in the long run. Not to say the Altis looks better than Cerato, but this is just my personal opinion.
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post Jan 29 2014, 08:38 PM

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QUOTE(acbc @ Jan 29 2014, 06:44 PM)
Naza service at Kota Damansara is top notch. Service here instead.

Toyota again? Not afraid stolen a few weeks / months driving it?

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This is really a reason need to concern shakehead.gif
Take care of this baby altis every1 , my insurance agent said that Thailand already facing the stealing flood of this altis @@ btw the car been stole will send to where ?

Ok back to topic , comparison for the 1.6 cerato and 1.8 altis really not make sense , rm16k different that's a lot doh.gif
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post Jan 29 2014, 08:41 PM

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QUOTE(Actchan @ Jan 29 2014, 08:38 PM)
This is really a reason need to concern  shakehead.gif
Take care of this baby altis every1 , my insurance agent said that Thailand already facing the stealing flood of this altis @@ btw the car been stole will send to where ?

Ok back to topic , comparison for the 1.6 cerato and 1.8 altis really not make sense , rm16k different that's a lot  doh.gif
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This month damn bad luck for 5 of my close friends and relatives. Their cars stolen from homes and offices.

1. Toyota Camry 2.4
2. Toyota Alphard 2.4
3. Toyota Estima 2.4
4. Toyota Hilux 2.5
5. Toyota Altis 2.0

All stolen within this month.
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post Jan 29 2014, 08:49 PM

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QUOTE(acbc @ Jan 29 2014, 08:41 PM)
This month damn bad luck for 5 of my close friends and relatives. Their cars stolen from homes and offices.

1. Toyota Camry 2.4
2. Toyota Alphard 2.4
3. Toyota Estima 2.4
4. Toyota Hilux 2.5
5. Toyota Altis 2.0

All stolen within this month.
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Oh man !

Btw I try to put 1 more toyota fortuner , it also a hot model sad.gif
TSchingkang
post Jan 29 2014, 10:12 PM

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Thanks for the comments. My rationale to compare these two cars is cerato 1.6 cheaper than altis 1.8. If I have to pay rm11x,xxx, I will definitely go for altis. But given that kia car has lower resale value, lesser brand value, unknown quality and after sales service, I will consider it only if kia car is significantly cheaper, such as in this comparison.
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post Jan 29 2014, 11:44 PM

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if u like gadgets like air cool seats or sunroof, choose cerato...

if u prefer refinement on the move, the new altis is way ahead of cerato...

this might step on alot of toes but the new altis has marginally better handling characteristic then the cerato... and yeah it surprises me too... wink.gif

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post Jan 30 2014, 12:30 AM

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If you are someone who love playing all those features in the car, take Cerato.

Altis would be bald, reliable and good resell value car....
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post Jan 30 2014, 12:53 AM

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QUOTE(acbc @ Jan 29 2014, 08:41 PM)
This month damn bad luck for 5 of my close friends and relatives. Their cars stolen from homes and offices.

1. Toyota Camry 2.4
2. Toyota Alphard 2.4
3. Toyota Estima 2.4
4. Toyota Hilux 2.5
5. Toyota Altis 2.0

All stolen within this month.
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UMW really sucks, why makes cars that thieves like to steal and easy to steal.... rclxub.gif
Those people who don't like Toyota, this is good reason to avoid Toyota cars.

Better buy those cars that even thieves will ignore then no need to have headaches ( since there is really no full proof way to prevent car theft, better option is to buy cars which thieves have no interest at...)
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post Jan 30 2014, 08:52 AM

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I dunno what you think about this:

to me, toyota service is just average. For example, repairs are only done during weekdays. That makes the car owner "carless" to go to work. they will only do servicing on Saturdays.

Also, most of the time, the queue is super long. usually gotta leave the car there and find your way back. there is no drop off service.
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post Jan 30 2014, 08:57 AM

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QUOTE(chingkang @ Jan 29 2014, 10:12 PM)
Thanks for the comments. My rationale to compare these two cars is cerato 1.6 cheaper than altis 1.8. If I have to pay rm11x,xxx, I will definitely go for altis. But given that kia car has lower resale value, lesser brand value, unknown quality and after sales service, I will consider it only if kia car is significantly cheaper, such as in this comparison.
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cerato is too new to predict its rv. but current kia sportage rv is not that bad. more or less used honda crv year 2011.
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post Jan 30 2014, 11:39 AM

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based on your comparison, cerato 1.6 is the more sensible choice as it's cheaper

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