Own stay or investment? will able to sale after VP still a question mark.

Vp in 2017 or 2018, price and demand will be in UUU by then.

Many in BBB wanted to buy more but couldn't get loan. Damn the bnm for not allowing investors to support the market.

This post has been edited by icemanfx: Jan 19 2014, 04:40 PM

No

it will all go down the drain.. bubble going bigger bigger and bigger.. for investment.. it going to be outright non sales as too high... and many cash already locked beneath... now developer launch already 640k new cheras condo.. there is really no room for investment..

"The end draws near", happy buying and investing

If one can't secure any more loan mean they r not qualify to be a investor, at most a gambler, bank don't give loan to gamblers, maybe can try ah long since guaranteed earn. ..lol

To BBB, newly launched at 640k proved their foresight is correct, already paper gain on what they have invested. VP in 3 or 4 years means definite, higher gain and will retire comfortably by 35 y.o.

if there is no room for investment, harder to get loan, speculator stay away and let genuine own use buyers to buy for own staying..

so lesser speculation activity, bubble contained.. not good meh..

To some; Banks deprive investors opportunity so that they won't look embarrassed that investors could make a lot more than their educated and qualified officiers.

I don't blame u, after all this is a Sunday...lol

But BBB group see cheras project only they will die die die must buy buy.. so they dun believe in bubble

what is the sales performance in cheras that makes you think BBB?

Actually my crystal ball... cheras prop anyting left in new launch based on your previous experirnce? Sold but vacant a lot lor.. like connought avenue.. amanya maluri.. pertama residency.. and etc

u see ecovest cheras only left big units and of course expensive lu.. even d MARK .. LIDO ..you city& vista complete sapu.. VYNA.. c100 cheras selatan.. silk residenc3

Cheras alone has an estimated 45 new havent-announced HIGHRISE only projects on the way....

This post has been edited by accetera: Jan 19 2014, 10:47 PM

If everything base on "Crystal ball", in chinese we say "you say everything liao".. because it is baseless

Those project you mention are completed or sold before the cooling measure starts.. thus behavior could be different with new cooling measure take place.. sales of certain area starts to cool down..

If the cooling measure manage to control the speculation activity, primary market can be cool down abit and avoiding catastrophic collapse.. possible of primary market stagnation, minor correction on pricing, until demand filling up the supply and the market starts to kick off again.. (if the cooling measures works).. In other words, maybe property price will not go down as much as 50% which some ppl are hoping for, and they continue to wait..

As long as ppl manage to repay, they wont get default.. bank will try to assist as much as possible to avoid defaulters.. Auctioning the houses below market value and recover the debt.. engaging AKPK to renegotiate loan agreement.. this kind of auctioning and defaulting happen all the time but just a matter of systemic or non-systemic. If things doesnt happen in systemic behavior, we might just experience property market segment slow down and minor correction which is not a bad thing and able to avoid the bubble bursting..

When primary market slowdown, good news for secondary market especially those who bought 2 to 3 years ago with 300psft to 400psft pricing.. because to the market now, 400psft to 500psft consider market price of below market price..

This post has been edited by twincharger07: Jan 19 2014, 10:55 PM

We discuss a lot on the micro level, lets hear what Dato Sri Gavin has to say on a macro level..

(Its a Taiwan Program)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqZZZIAipuk


Sorry its only in Mandarin.. My stand is neutral, I am just sharing.. some one say sharing is caring.. (but I dont spam)

Although this video was last year before the cooling measure, but some points are worth to note..
Whether you agree with him and another lady or not is base on your own opinion and understanding on the property market..

will it be a case where some group of ppl continuously waiting for prop crash to buy cheap prop but waiting forever and end up paying even more because they wait too long?

Cheers..

This post has been edited by twincharger07: Jan 19 2014, 11:07 PM

The cooling measures are in fact preventing bubbling and bursting, not a sign for bursting.

+1 .. some ppl think that the cooling measure is the cause of bubble burst..

Diff perspective ma boss. Tats y some missed the boat lo.

i think this time you smack urself in your face...

We had a good thread which had good factual discussions but most importantly, for once we had something we could reference against for the future and see if the 4 signs were actually prove to be true. And now because of the emergence of this thread, my other thread was blocked and that reference is now gone. Thats the problem with LYN. Everybody keeps creating new threads for the same damn topic and there is no proper reference for the future especially in discussions about property pricing and whether the signs that we're seeing now are truly reflective of an upcoming property slump. But now its lost and all we have is just a poll which means almost nothing because half the voters are property agents.

My first thread:
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3031756

Version 2 which was closed:
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3100773

Really disappointing because property prices is something which has significant impact on most of us here investors or speculators alike.

haiyo ya lorr.. the one with lots of arguments one shut down.. but nevertheless.. i think most of us got the message..
maybe our thread got "special attention liao" very difficult...actually i no need to see the rules i know di.. the discretion will be absolutely on their hands.. we cant contest..