According to some posters, the military radar had ATR databases (probably a database of how a reflected radar signal can be translated to aircraft size/shape) that can positively identify the type of aircraft.

by reading ur post, this is what i understand:

1. The military radar does not display flight numbers nor flight details like they do on an ATC screen.

2. The MH370 blip the military saw on their radar screen appeared like any other normal flights, so they wouldn't have known any abnormalies.

Correct?

So my next question is, how does military know if the blip they see on their screens is a threat?

by reading ur post, this is what i understand:

1. The military radar does not display flight numbers nor flight details like they do on an ATC screen.

2. The MH370 blip the military saw on their radar screen appeared like any other normal flights, so they wouldn't have known any abnormalies.

Correct?

So my next question is, how does military know if the blip they see on their screens is a threat?

they shud tell the same to the US airforce that failed in their duty to detect & reacted swiftly towards 2 commercial planes that hit WTC

According to some posters, the military radar had ATR databases (probably a database of how a reflected radar signal can be translated to aircraft size/shape) that can positively identify the type of aircraft.

The most common, is irregular fly route. Most commercial got a set of predefined route or points they have to fly through

Unidentified object if have this signature, can be classified as threat

In case of MS370, it follow all the points as in any commercial including the turn back. The military see no suspicious as standard turn back procedure plus Dca didnt inform any critical information to them

Any in typical malaysia style, kalau tak ada masalah buat apa check 
Basically both party is at fault, DCA fail to inform the military promptly and the military fail to take initiative to check unidentified object in their radar 
detected, they even scramble jet that are not armed in mission to shoot down one of the hijacked aircraft

saya ingin melaporkan US Navy sudah sampai di Subang airbase..

gambar U.S. Navy P-8 Poseidon and P-3 Orion @ Subang Air Base pagi tadi, dekat je dengan tempat aku tinggal sekarang ni dalam misi cari MH370

As you said, the hijacked (or not) MH370 followed the turn back procedure, and therefore military was unable to confirm an unidentified threat and took it as a glitch.

I hate to agree: the military is at fault because they did not confirm their suspicious with DCA, thus national security was compromised.

I have been inside the ATC room in DCA Subang Jaya. The military ATC is just next to it! (same room but partitioned)  

if it was an UFO, why did the Air Force not scramble their jets for visual confirmation?

the military shouldnt take their suspicious off and call it a glitch... the authorities must put national security above budget... there's no excuse about it

my main question is this: Did RMAF scramble their jets upon discovering a UFO over national airspace? if they did, did they manage to make contact with the UFO? if they didn't, why didn't they? and how do we confirm whether they did?

They can't identify the aircraft id on the radar when they comparing back the record on the military psr and dca ssr records.
Which means the officer on duty that night probably did not spot anything hostile for him to put alarm on.
on their radar screen they only saw all commercial jet without id in its.
Dca have yet alert the military about the lost planes or any security issue about the commercial jets.

Until full report is out it hard to point finger at anyone.
might be all parties were at faults here or might be sop not good enough or might be systematic failures as it cross so many country without being noticed.
too many variables and unansweres questions.

Regardless of who's fault it is, our military are now seen as inefficient, locally and internationally, and will now have to shoulder the blame. It's now too late to convince the world that the Malaysian military still has what it takes to protect this nation.

Quite frankly, I'm not too bothered what the world thinks. I am bothered by the fact that Malayian military ATC would gamble the nation's sovereignty and security by not confirming their suspicious with civilian ATC.

I hope MH370 incident will be the catalyst for change. Whether that change turns out badly or better will based entirely what the government's deicisons are.

CNN, NYT, other foreign press will now seek to find further weaknesses of the Malaysian military just to satiate their readers hunger. Only a matter of time before they find out several former military personnel flex their butts at some prominent figures. That story, if the press decides to publish, will surely their increase traffic views.

Nice to read below ....

Did Malaysian Airlines 370 disappear using SIA68/SQ68 (another 777)?

http://keithledgerwood.tumblr.com/post/798...sing-sia68-sq68



if correct the map, it look like MH370 only cross perlis....

Regardless of who's fault it is, our military are now seen as inefficient, locally and internationally, and will now have to shoulder the blame. It's now too late to convince the world that the Malaysian military still has what it takes to protect this nation.

Quite frankly, I'm not too bothered what the world thinks. I am bothered by the fact that Malayian military ATC would gamble the nation's sovereignty and security by not confirming their suspicious with civilian ATC.

I hope MH370 incident will be the catalyst for change. Whether that change turns out badly or better will based entirely what the government's deicisons are.

CNN, NYT, other foreign press will now seek to find further weaknesses of the Malaysian military just to satiate their readers hunger. Only a matter of time before they find out several former military personnel flex their butts at some prominent figures. That story, if the press decides to publish, will surely their increase traffic views.

Again you are pointing finger at military without knowing what actually have happen.
As I have already said it could be lots of factors going there.
Until the full report is out it will hard to determine where is the faults. Sop? Dca? Military?

Yes thing must be rectified like the sop, intergration dca atc to the military network and so on.

it still raised lots of question not just for malaysia but the entire aviation industry. How much control do we have on the commercial aviation?

In every explanation that has been made on the turnback and the route taken by MH370 in every map shown domestically or in the foreign media it always shows that the route taken over land was over Thailand and not Malaysia.

Even the airspace MH370 flew over involved  Thai airspace and as it headed over to the Andaman Islands presumably Myanmar and Indian Air space.

And the word often used the" Malaysian Peninsular" well actually the Malaysian Peninsular includes Southern Thailand.

Even in the map above this page posted by wanvadder (SkyVector.com) it shows the same.

This in itself explains a lot.

TNI-AL’s PUSPENERBAL Now Operates AS565 Panther ASW Heli

Posted on March 16, 2014 by hafizuddinsulaiman

The history of TNI-AL’s RON 100 of Puspenerbal is very much interesting. Established as anti-submarine warfare (ASW) squadron in 1959 following a deal signed between the Indonesian and British Government for the procurement of a number of Fairey Gannet AS.5 and T.5 acquired from former Royal Navy stocks.

Unfortunately though, the Konfrontasi between Indonesia and Malaysia saw the Indonesian Gannets suffering from lack of spares due to embargoes and sanctions made by the United Kingdom. Hence, not long after, the unique Gannets were withdrawn from service.

A new chapter of the squadron began following TNI-AL plans to acquire up to 11 ASW helicopters. While the Kaman SH-2G Super Seasprite was considered, eventually, the French made Eurocopter (now Airbus Helicopter) AS-565 MB Panther emerge as winner. The induction of the Panther into RON 100 service re-enacts the all important role that the squadron played in times when ASEAN region has been increasingly becomes submarine haven not only among the neighbouring countries but also others such as the United States, Australia and China.





What’s even more interesting about TNI-AL’s procurement of the Panther is that this happens only a few times after the IAe delivered two AS-365N2 Dauphin 2 helicopters to the country’s SAR agency, known as the BASARNAS. Aside from Puspenerbal and BASARNAS, other Indonesian agency which uses the Panther/Dauphin is the Indonesian Police (POLRI).

Having said this, in Malaysian perspective, it is hardly a few months ago that a Malaysian geostrategist has been quoted by a local newspaper of having proposed two types of helicopters, the AS565 Panther and the Super Lynx to be considered by the RMN to fill in the requirement of ASW helicopters.  Another Malaysian agency, the MMEA has been operating SAR configured AS365N2 Dauphin 2 successfully for some time now on various maritime SAR missions.

Whether the Indonesian development would be a plus side for type in the RMN ASW helicopter program is still unclear. Nevertheless, this helicopter is something that needs to be also looked at as a potential candidate.

Totally agree with Phillip_x. If MH370 was flying on the Thailand side of the border, TUDM could not send our MIG to intercept. Right?

It make a lot of sense now on why the aircraft was identified as non hostile.
Does anybody know if TUDM practises CAP around the clock?

TQ.

In every explanation that has been made on the turnback and the route taken by MH370 in every map shown domestically or in the foreign media it always shows that the route taken over land was over Thailand and not Malaysia.

Even the airspace MH370 flew over involved  Thai airspace and as it headed over to the Andaman Islands presumably Myanmar and Indian Air space.

And the word often used the" Malaysian Peninsular" well actually the Malaysian Peninsular includes Southern Thailand.

Even in the map above this page posted by wanvadder (SkyVector.com) it shows the same.

This in itself explains a lot.