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waja2000
post Jan 13 2014, 05:34 PM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Jan 13 2014, 03:50 PM)
Kalau super horny boleh dapat jsm, paveway, jdam dan aim9x.
Not sure if we can get aim-120d currently we are only approve for c-5.
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get C-7 pun ok lah.... C-5
tak dapat AIM120 C-7 beli Rafale saja....
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post Jan 15 2014, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(acam2812 @ Jan 15 2014, 10:47 AM)
hope TUDM will get super horny and some stealth fighter and attack heli if permit.
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only can buy from 2014~2016, start year 2017 close to 2018 election so all procurement will stop.
And F18 Block3 Advance Super hornet if no order, boeing will close production at 2017.
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post Jan 15 2014, 01:02 PM

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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Jan 15 2014, 12:31 PM)
ko jadik PM
Mindef bagi aku
PDRM bagi yinchet  tongue.gif
Jabatan Perdana Menteri bagi ankel zimhibiki
kita tak tau dia kat mana,
that's how submarine works
nope, Aesa for F-16
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i want Ministry of Housing and Local Government or Ministry of Transport biggrin.gif

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post Jan 22 2014, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(azriel @ Jan 16 2014, 11:35 AM)
I found other forum blame our ship no crew control and monitor the radar & Navigator at ship bridge ?any idea how our ship can't avoid it ?
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post Jan 22 2014, 07:30 PM

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QUOTE(LTZ @ Jan 22 2014, 07:00 PM)
Storm that night....very restricted in visibility. Bear in mind...if raining heavily radar wont able to pickup surface contact due to low rain cloud... maneuvre at sea quite confusing cause no route...u can be anyway. The only guide is navigation lights and Rules of the Road (ROR). if one ship doesnt follow...will give trouble to others... like who suppose to give way but didnt. Merchant ships normally set to auto pilot....thats why sometimes langgar bot kecik pun x sedar.
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KD Jebat have small Navigator antenna from Thales (in right low of main combat radar), event bad weather, at lease have 10km range to detect any object in road path and to avoid collision, some more the commercial ship is not small.

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post Jan 31 2014, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Jan 31 2014, 12:15 AM)
Perry is already quite worn out.  sad.gif But then again begger cant be choosy

But what ship is actually on the list? Patrol boat is technically a ship also  sweat.gif
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Maybe can consider US navy Whidbey Island class dock landing ship 16000 tons, 2 off the this ship will retirement this year, maybe RMN can buy it used as LPD.
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post Jan 31 2014, 10:50 AM

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QUOTE(azriel @ Jan 30 2014, 09:00 AM)
IINM the French army is going to have the HAD variant.

The HAP & HAD are 2 different variant of the Tiger.
The French army start receiving the HAD variant last year:
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actually France Army (Alat) only receive 24 unit Tiger HAP , from 2001 until 2012 (remaining will change to HAD version), first 12 unit is Tiger Basic spec (Std 1) with limit weapon support like 30mm gun, rocket and Mistral AA missile. If we buy it also have to make some upgrade on system to support anti-tank or small Anti-ship missile. if price more than USD 20 mil for each unit i think not so worth it.

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post Jan 31 2014, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ Jan 30 2014, 08:20 PM)
We've ady had some ships from US before like Inderapura and the marines likely to get LDP from them
So it's not a really "unlikely" source

China? Fuuuu
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china got offer there smaller version (13000tons) Type 071 (Yuzhao-class 20k tons) are amphibious warfare ships

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price just around USD 200m (13000tons)

http://globalmilitaryreview.blogspot.com/2...zhao-class.html



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post Jan 31 2014, 03:10 PM

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http://www.bernama.com/bernama/v7/ge/newsg....php?id=1011395

Hot news[SIZE=7]

PUTD Helicopter Carrying Four Military Personnel Crashes

JOHOR BAHARU, Jan 31 (Bernama) An Army Air Corps (PUTD) helicopter, an Augusta A-109 LUH, crashed in the jungle near the Bekok Dam between 9pm and 10pm Thursday night, according to sources Friday.

However, all the four people on board the helicopter, which was on a training flight, were safe and had been taken to the Kluang District Hospital.

"The helicopter was on a night training flight before it crashed in the jungle near Bekok Dam in Segamat," said the sources.

The sources said that a PUTD rescue team had been despatched to the crash site and succeeded in taking the victims out before sending them to the Kluang Hospital at about 1am.

The four victims, including a foreign military officer with the rank of Lieutenant-Colonel who was the flight instructor, did not suffer serious injuries, the sources added.

Bernama learnt that the foreign military officer was from France, while the other three people on board were locals holding the ranks of Major, Captain and a Sergeant.

The sources said the impact of the crash resulted in the tail and the rotor blades of the helicopter to break into two and the wheels of the aircraft were damaged badly.

"The helicopter was described as a total loss," the sources said.

According to the sources, night flight training involved high risks as the pilot had to rely on the 'night vision goggle' and other flight instruments in flying the helicopter.

Meanwhile, Batu Pahat OCPD ACP Din Ahmad, when contacted, confirmed receiving the report on the incident from the military this morning.

However, he said he was informed that the helicopter did not crash but had made an emergency landing due to problems faced by the aircraft.

He said no serious injury was reported on the four victims.

-- BERNAMA

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post Feb 1 2014, 11:37 PM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Feb 1 2014, 08:14 PM)
It much better to buy Russian non-moving or self-reliant system that does not requires frequent maintenance something like the surface to air missile or SAM

This is why russian main weapon exports are all missiles rather than vehicles. If Malaysia get S400 system one at kelantan and another at sabah, i think china wont even dare to fly into South china sea
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SAM alot cost to maintenance specially super expensive batteries pack cost USD 150 million per-set for each S300 missile system. have to charge every week.
S400 not allow export yet, event allow to export, our cant afford it, cost each set S300 missile system around usd 500 million with maintenance, and buy 1 ~2 set S300/400 with 12~16 missile each set not really help much. just small matter for china missile power.

Anyway our gov also looking on china missile defense system, from KS-1 event now HQ-16 missile system. cost is main factor.

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post Feb 2 2014, 08:03 PM

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QUOTE(Dharma123 @ Feb 2 2014, 01:41 PM)
China will never sell us their air defence system, we will surely use it against them one day.
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we already used china FN-6, also consider as Air Defence system, and lastime we already agree to buy China KS-1 SAM, just no money place order, china no problem sales to as all defence equipment in there export defense list. event many time our top military guy got invite to china to see military product and demonstration. include jet, ship etc.... no be surprise one day our country more and more using china hardware.

one more think our country no ability to again china in military or economic, event all asean country.

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post Feb 6 2014, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(Protoculture @ Feb 5 2014, 11:56 PM)
WTF? The so-called ships from Aussie are destined for MMEA? In time where RMN sorely needed ships to patrol our long coasts, in which many of its assets donated to MMEA no less, MMEA snagged the procurement deal?
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RMN get Armidale class patrol boat should be OK. small but low operation cost, can patrol for 21 days and 5000KM. suitable patrol in sabah.

I watch Australia drama "Sea Patrol season2" it base on Armidale class patrol boat story. look quite good the ship.

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post Feb 9 2014, 10:22 PM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Feb 8 2014, 03:15 PM)
No fulus is quite bs.
Tengok perviously all project going well then come hisap all gg.
sekarang kdn get lots of nice stuff.
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Maybe not goood idea,
can consider take USD 1 Billion from our BNM rezab to purchase, 1B not much at lease can buy some, usually military hardware make payment by installment. so 1 b can use for few project initial payment.

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post Feb 10 2014, 02:34 PM

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A Dassault Rafale shows off its heaviest stores load to date: six AASM Hammer missiles, 6 air-to-air missiles (four MICA and two Meteor) and three 2,000 liter fuel tanks.



Dassault Aviation: Rafale Further Improves Its Versatility

(Source: Dassault Aviation; issued January 23, 2014)

SAINT-CLOUD, France --- The Rafale has successfully completed its first test flights in a new heavily-armed configuration, comprising six air-to-ground precision AASM Hammer missiles, four medium and long range air-to-air missiles from the MICA family, two very long range METEOR missiles, as well as three 2,000 liter fuel tanks.


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http://www.defense-aerospace.com/article-v...iguration.html#
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post Feb 10 2014, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(azriel @ Feb 10 2014, 12:27 PM)
Come on now...do you believe everything from Top*x? It is full of fanboys, trolls & hoaxs.  doh.gif
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correct, Topix site no need to trust.
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post Feb 13 2014, 12:14 AM

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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Feb 12 2014, 11:01 PM)
cuba tengok APMM punya buy list since its establishment
non stop procurement maa

sedangkan waktu yang sama apa TLDM dapat?
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APMM itu beli hanya million-million so senang dapat approval also politic party tak banyak create issue.
but TLDM/TLDM/TLDM beli heavy weapon semua billion-billion orang politic tengok pun mata besar mesti create politic issue. biggrin.gif

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post Feb 13 2014, 12:23 AM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Feb 12 2014, 05:30 PM)
Masa zahid tak jadi masalah.
Mayb is time to setup internal funding department for military.
Ambik wang beli toll concessionary, ipp, mayb damacai.
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After 2012 many public transport project need big $$$ billion-billion with in 8 year time.
estimated 3 MRT cost 65-70 Billion, HSR KL-SG cost 30-40 Billion, also some new highway and Electric rail project. Event gov will delay 2~5 year JB MRT, Kelana Jaya-Klang MRT project.

have to wait until 2015 after GST start, maybe at that time Gov will have better budget.

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Feb 13 2014, 01:44 AM)
If government willing to spend that much on those project y not put some money into military.
We can buy in small batches.

We are having trouble now is because we dun have clear vision in our procurement.
at least come out with white papers on our procurement direction.
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But for now, base on current gov deficit, for finance people view any new “unnecessary” military purchase will increase deficit, it may impact our “financial Rating”.
Agree, Mindef should change strategic and propose to gov and buy in small batches, like 4-8 unit.

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post Feb 18 2014, 11:58 PM

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QUOTE(azriel @ Feb 18 2014, 07:48 PM)
not CAPTAS 4 ..... look like our LCS weapons and electronics warfare capability much more shrink than expected. USD 500mil ship.... vmad.gif

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post Feb 19 2014, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Feb 19 2014, 01:52 AM)
I dun think CAPTAS 4 can fit in our ship nicely.
Captas 4 usually use by heavy frigate and destroyer.
Our sgpv ngam ngam 3000 tonnage + it would have tough time fitting it.
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US LCS also select Captas4 ....

not really big actually.
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