And i thought id never see posts like this anymore in kopitiam with everyone seeming to agree with everything the white people say..

Im particularly wondering why Are the western media so unusually interested

Again you are pointing finger at military without knowing what actually have happen.
As I have already said it could be lots of factors going there.
Until the full report is out it will hard to determine where is the faults. Sop? Dca? Military?

Yes thing must be rectified like the sop, intergration dca atc to the military network and so on.
Precisely for this, I am blaming the military (or the government if the military had earlier proposed such integration but was never approved) for jeapordising national security

it still raised lots of question not just for malaysia but the entire aviation industry. How much control do we have on the commercial aviation?

Why put much pressure on the military, is not in their jurisdiction to monitor commercial flight,
much less notice if anything wrong with a particular flight that is not informed by the ATC

As lame as a scenario could be but shall we consider this?A kid on his way to school. Somewhere along the way he changed clothes and diverted elsewhere. Well the parents obviously thought that their child is at school not until the teacher calls home asking the parents where their child is.
Culprit 1 – ParentsNot monitoring their child movement.
Culprit 2 – TeachersNot/late informing the parents/police/whoever of the child not coming to school.
Culprit 3 – PoliceFor not ensuring that the child goes straight to school.
Culprit 4 – The childEither he acted on his own or he got a friend waiting at a junction or worst, was kidnapped on his way to school

Anybody can judge and blame any of the culprits. With regards to our situation right now, CULPRIT 3 is public enemy no. 1. It’s easy for us, a bystander at the roadside to point fingers demanding explanation. A kid walking on the street wouldn’t raise any suspicion to the police on his patrolling round. Likewise, an anonymous airliner flying in the airways will not trigger the red button not unless it is observed to be diverting going straight to klcc or the kl tower. Being the guy in the air defence radar room, he obviously was not in the know of the flight plan of these aircrafts simply because those are not the thing that’s required off him to know. An air defence radar as the name imply monitor threats coming from the outside or any pop-up unidentified tracks. Primary radar sees hundreds of blips on real time as long as an element produce a significant radar return. Air defence and air traffic control is two different business altogether.

An unidentified blip originating from a known track flying steadily on an airways in a non-suspicious manner wouldn’t warrant the red button being triggered. Yes, could have been better should the radar operator picked up his phone and call the ATC to reconfirm, as in the school kid scenario where the police on patrol could have stopped and asked the kid of his intention. But on a street where there are hundreds of kids walking, how on earth could he know which kid is which not unless he saw one running around wielding parang or one pedaling his bicycle ramming straight into their patrol car! Even so, an abducted kid subdued and dragged in a Myvi would surely pass most prying eyes.

Having said all that, certainly an improvement to the SOP’s of national ATC is required. If i recall correctly even the acting transportation minister did suggested earlier of integrating RMAF officers into the DCA. If only it was done sooner.

Not that i’m defending the authorities when they themselves have a lot of other accountability issues. But lets have some respect to those working hard in the effort rather than engage in the endless blaming game. Some information is just beyond our paygrade so lets focus on things that we know rather than speculative assumption.

anybody from Malaysian Navy  here ? wanna ask few question.

ltz

but shoot anyway!

thanks bro.

i just wondering,is our navy ship have capabilities for sea-skimming threat ? to shoot down low missile/drone/aircraft ? low as in angel 50ft.

Drone and aircraft yes.
missile I doubt ds30m ciws capable of shooting down highspeed russian asm.

thanks bro.

i just wondering,is our navy ship have capabilities for sea-skimming threat ? to shoot down low missile/drone/aircraft ? low as in angel 50ft.

highspeed in how many knot ? 250knot ?

cwis using 30mm bullet ?

thanks bro.

it called CIWS capability
the radar will detect it and gun missile are deployed to shoot it down
it is all automated and guided by the radar

it called CIWS capability
the radar will detect it and gun missile are deployed to shoot it down
it is all automated and guided by the radar

Yes it use 30mm bullet.

Missile like klub-s, brahmos goes super sonic like mach 2 speed.
these kind of missile extremely deadly if we dun have good ciws.
ds30m could still able to shoot down harpoon though.

Sedih kalau gowind kita tak ambik millennium ciws dan searam.

Sedih kalau gowind kita tak ambik millennium ciws dan searam.

syukur la we already have ds30m as CIWS.     

nanti Otai military kata ini bukan '' Destroyer ''