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post Mar 3 2014, 03:35 PM

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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Mar 3 2014, 01:07 PM)
security contractors have access to armored troop carriers..lel  tongue.gif
why these 'blackwater' soldiers remove their ammo clip?
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prevent accidental tembak-menembak, typically soldiers doing guard/patrol duty outside hot zones will have unloaded weapon.
or magazine loaded, but not chambered.

only if needed they pop 1 in, cock, safety off, go bang2

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Mar 3 2014, 03:35 PM)
but still have that deniability factor (no matter how thin the disguise are,c'mon everybody knows these guys are russians.....)
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ada sos say they are pro-russia ukranians
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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Mar 3 2014, 09:22 AM)
always the navy the first one to crumble during war..
well, Ukraine's navy ships are few, all obsolete and ancient..so they wouldn't put much of a fight anyway..
that leaves the air force and the army
both branch are strong, Ukraine's Air Force will be a serious problem for Russia and Crimea..
Russia will have a hard time trying to obtain air superiority over Ukraine..
Ukraine's Air Force seems sturdy with their 48 Hinds, hundreds of Mig-29, 36 Frogfoot, 16 Flanker...
but i think maybe half of the air force will also defect to Russia/Crimea..
i think we can see a lot of defections in this conflict
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They also have alot of SAM system thanks to russia tongue.gif

Surely a headache for russia. But since russian develop most of the weapon, they sure have some tricks up their sleeves to counter it. rolleyes.gif

plus alot o tanks..Although old, but it still a vast number to be an headache for Russian
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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Mar 3 2014, 03:35 PM)
As a PMC they're employed by the Interior Ministry (i/e the government),so i guess some of their heavy equipment is loaned out by the government. From my research,these guys are a PMC group created but not part of the government called Vnevedomstvenaya Okhrana (Private Security Section). Probably created just for these kinds of situations where the Russians need to take direct military action but still have that deniability factor (no matter how thin the disguise are,c'mon everybody knows these guys are russians.....)

A convoy of BTR wheeled APCs on the move
No magazines? maybe for now only has orders to act only as non-combat troops. It's like "we're not here for a fight,see we don't even have ammo in our rifles but we are prepared,if you screw around with us;we'll start loading ammo & all bets are off".

A squad of unidentified soldiers deploying for maneuvers

Very well-armed & equipped soldiers in unmarked uniforms patrol the area near a Ukrainian military outpost
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still can deny direct involvement the rules of war dictate that your army should be marked indicating which country but this is not required by pmc sad.gif

same like what american did in afghan war between russian last time. Supply equipments and training through the use of pmc but also deny direct involvement tongue.gif

This time, maybe russian clever abit send in PMC, if escalate just send in their troops.
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post Mar 3 2014, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(cks2k2 @ Mar 3 2014, 03:37 PM)
ada sos say they are pro-russia ukranians
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Most probably not. Local Pro-Russian civilian militia groups not yet activated as far as I know,but probably already organized and supplied by the Russians and ready for any shooting war. Russian forces value the contributions of local Militias and usually supply them with good equipments. Like in the case in 2008 in Georgia,Pro-Russian militias were out in force once hostility started. Most of the major and most brutal fighting was between Georgian and pro-Russian militias.

Note: Pro-Russian Militias here usually identify themselves with a white armband
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South Ossetia Pro-Russian Militias resting

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Pro-Russian militias coordinating with Russian soldiers

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Civilian pro-russian militias patrol a street in South Ossetia

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Militiamen greet an old lady while patrolling ahead of their comrades in a truck

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post Mar 3 2014, 04:09 PM

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Those are russian naval infantry based in the russian sevastopol black sea fleet base, but more reinforcement coming from russia.
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QUOTE(lulz @ Mar 3 2014, 04:09 PM)
Those are russian naval infantry based in the russian sevastopol black sea fleet base, but more reinforcement coming from russia.
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The unidentified soldiers are Marines? Hmm...if they're really are Russian Marines,why all the anonymity? Doesn't make any sense. From what I see even most military experts can't confirm who they actually are. I guess we'll learn soon enough,though. My money is on them being mercenaries ,maybe we're witnessing a new Russian military doctrine?
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All it takes is one shot, if you think of it, it's very scary. War is never good..sigh. Hope Russia and Ukraine can settle this without fatal aggression.
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post Mar 3 2014, 10:20 PM

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QUOTE(wanvadder @ Mar 3 2014, 05:50 PM)
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why no tanks deployed?
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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Mar 3 2014, 10:20 PM)
why no tanks deployed?
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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Mar 3 2014, 10:20 PM)
why no tanks deployed?
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putin want play it save from moving heavy war machine. If move tank, seriously can consider declaration of war ad.


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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Mar 3 2014, 11:20 PM)
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QUOTE(thpace @ Mar 4 2014, 01:40 AM)
putin want play it save from moving heavy war machine. If move tank, seriously can consider declaration of war ad.
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