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Military Thread V11, #Condolences9MMRO :(
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LTZ
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 Jan 22 2014, 07:00 PM
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QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ Jan 22 2014, 06:26 PM) There's a storm happening in the morning (3am? something) of the collision Bad visibility and limited radar detection during bad weather probably lead to the collision Storm that night....very restricted in visibility. Bear in mind...if raining heavily radar wont able to pickup surface contact due to low rain cloud... maneuvre at sea quite confusing cause no route...u can be anyway. The only guide is navigation lights and Rules of the Road (ROR). if one ship doesnt follow...will give trouble to others... like who suppose to give way but didnt. Merchant ships normally set to auto pilot....thats why sometimes langgar bot kecik pun x sedar. |
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Jan 22 2014, 07:03 PM
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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Jan 22 2014, 06:19 PM) radar din pickup the other ship signal? i thought there's supposed to be one observer outside the bridge with his binocular on..maybe it was foggy.. Foggy wont effect so much on radar...but if raining yes. Because thick & low cloud will disturb the radar echoes.... high sea state also disturb radar echo... there is settings to minimise the effect in radar...but depends. Sometimes good sometimes not effective. |
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Jan 22 2014, 08:33 PM
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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Jan 22 2014, 07:30 PM) KD Jebat have small Navigator antenna from Thales (in right low of main combat radar), event bad weather, at lease have 10km range to detect any object in road path and to avoid collision, some more the commercial ship is not small. They got 4 types of radars for different purposes... for nav, air, long range surveillance & fire control. Normally they will run severals radar at a time...depending on situation. I had served onboard her sister ship b4 joining sub... so I knew the Emcon policy. But anything can happened...wait for the investigation result. This post has been edited by LTZ: Jan 22 2014, 08:35 PM |
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Jan 23 2014, 12:59 AM
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Jan 22 2014, 10:19 PM) Nama pun kemalangan, tp dengar2 OOW tgh dlm hot seat nih Tu x boleh ckp apa dah...incharge of the watch mmg kena la eventhough org lain buat...sorng lagi CO la... |
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Jan 23 2014, 06:50 PM
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Jan 23 2014, 07:11 AM) bukan slalu dalam ribut mmg kapal kecik ikut kapal besar ka? Tak penah tgk plak. ada la kot tp radar x leh pickup. |
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Jan 27 2014, 09:34 AM
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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Jan 27 2014, 01:47 AM) for more tactical, send hornets as bait, while they're distracted by the hornets..scorpenes can easily fire torpedo on them..btw what is that china's heli? looks big..  We'll avoid any means of military action with China.... they are more more superior. We just show our presence to maintain soverignity while they show their presence to claim soverignity. |
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Jan 27 2014, 01:24 PM
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QUOTE(zimhibikie @ Jan 27 2014, 12:20 PM) sapa cakap? john titor ke?  we are taking a more pragmatic approach with China..they are our closet superpower and will overtake US in economy within a decade and military in 15 years.. What to say....military expert. Even we at mindef cant predict that... btw, we are not pengecut. Just to save everybody including publics. If war with China...its finish. Dont provoke...our action is based on self defense. |
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Jan 27 2014, 01:28 PM
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QUOTE(MAD GOD @ Jan 27 2014, 01:03 PM) Heloooo ~~ REality check .. they already did breach our sovereignty. For China, Action is more powerful than words. Mana Bijan buat bising? Mana ATM ? Why did they not deploy our Navy just to see their Military at sea? Is That million dollar Subs is just for show, nothing more. Good judgement from keyboard warrior.... are u the one to be sent if crisis happen?? Who said no action from us?? Ops has been established there...but we still remain neutral. We know the disaster...we already simulate various scenarios in CBT thru JMAP. U know the result right... This post has been edited by LTZ: Jan 27 2014, 01:29 PM |
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Jan 27 2014, 01:44 PM
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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Jan 27 2014, 01:34 PM) LTZ bro..navy ada arah hantar subs pegi scout kapal china tuh tak?  Dlm forum lain mentioned...kenapa baru sedar hal ni, nape x intercept awal2... jawapan dia, we have been shadowing their ships long2 time ago since their claim. We maintain our ships incl sub 24hrs within visual range. Nape tak intercept?? When u intercept u provoke them...our policy clear, neutral... maintain diplomacy. Act only self defense. This story baru discover la... benda dah lama. TLDM & TUDM know what to do.... ade plak org nk ajar ape nk buat. As usual mindef maintain silent all the time. |
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Jan 27 2014, 01:45 PM
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QUOTE(MAD GOD @ Jan 27 2014, 01:39 PM) When Sulu people go to Sabah .. got simulate they start war is it ? No .. kasih minum teh and kopi and proclaim them not a threat and terrorist. Last-last.. kena pakai jet to drop bomb, and call in battalionss of ATM on them cause cant handle the 300 Suluk Sparta who start the shooting first. Your simulation suck banana. Ok...understood ur deep knowledge in military. |
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Jan 27 2014, 02:34 PM
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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Jan 27 2014, 02:05 PM)  dat SAM and ASM range though  are they that close to sarawak? Not up to scale... |
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Jan 27 2014, 03:52 PM
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QUOTE(MAD GOD @ Jan 27 2014, 03:10 PM) Dah kalah .. request barrage from a cheap fag .. Your military intel is that weak till dupe can unleash load of info on how weak is Malaysian military compare to China military. ALL HAIL CHINA !! NEW GOVERNMENT OF SABAH AND SARAWAK !!! Thanks for ur support.... b4 new govn is built in sabah & sarawak, everything jd padang jarak padang terkukur dulu... and not to forget semenanjung as well. I know u are monitoring this to prepare to buy flight ticket to fly somewhere. |
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Jan 27 2014, 04:25 PM
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QUOTE(MAD GOD @ Jan 27 2014, 04:00 PM) Nope .. i am waiting for a new red flag to appear and breathe a new ideology as Sabah and Sarawak will welcome the new lords while seeing the fall of Semenanjung state. China don't need to attack Semenanjung.. they just leave it to PERKASA extremist to do it for them. Molotov cocktail anyone ??  Ok...understood again with ur level. So as some said...dont feed the troll. Buang masa layan hang...ingt boleh share infos. |
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Jan 27 2014, 05:52 PM
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QUOTE(keown83 @ Jan 27 2014, 05:48 PM) what i mean is to use our own diplomatic way to deal with China hey, we've been dealing with Brits, Japs, & commies before..experience shud taught us better Thats what we are doing now... whatever public said askar pengecut or whatsoever.... all of us want that way. We know our strength and our status now is to avoid any use of force....even minimize the presence. Cant reveal much as it still SECRET..... |
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Jan 27 2014, 06:45 PM
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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Jan 27 2014, 06:27 PM) haiyaa..susah2 position as defence minister tuh reserve untuk jeneral tentera yg appointed by MKN je la..tak payah kasi kat regular politician..  Still money control by kewangan... so cant do much. Uniform aku lusuh nk ganti cukup susah...PLKN every intake ade je baju baru. |
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Jan 27 2014, 09:28 PM
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QUOTE(cks2k2 @ Jan 27 2014, 09:24 PM) MoF is the problem here. Read somewhere that TUDM wanted Super Hornet but MoF force them to take su-30, despite the added cost of customizing stock Suks to MKM spec. Same case with 50M spent on equipment fire department don't want. having kerismudin as head just make it worse. Same goes to Laksamana class corvette, inderapura, AUG styer... sedar2 je kena pi amik bawak balik |
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Jan 28 2014, 03:14 PM
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QUOTE(keown83 @ Jan 28 2014, 02:48 PM) I read in Dzirhan fb page told that according to his reliable source, China Navy didnt landed & excercised at James Shoal at all..they only did it at Paracel Island any comment? Yes they are.... only Paracel. Not in james shoal. It is closely monitored by RMN. fyi... RMN is shadowing their activities very2 close... eventhough some people said we didnt perform our duty...we didnt intercept them. Starting from their 1st sail from China we knew that already...thanks to our allies of course. We feed each other... |
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Jan 28 2014, 03:22 PM
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Yg selalu buat eks dgn kita tu kira allies la.... of course they have interest also. But changing info will benefit both to counter PLA dreams
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Jan 29 2014, 07:44 AM
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QUOTE(keown83 @ Jan 29 2014, 01:56 AM) from fb; i think its already latest official news They just past thru James Shoal at night...no exs or landing conducted. It has been reported by our ship & P3C Orion. |
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Jan 29 2014, 09:13 AM
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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jan 29 2014, 08:10 AM) I never said they landed or had exercises there.But they still stopped at the shoal and swore an oath to defence PRC territories. This is already a serious issue. . . . . And since when we have P3C Orion? Ally.... Got direct access to this matter since the beginning...but cant reveal much coz under classified infos This post has been edited by LTZ: Jan 29 2014, 09:20 AM |
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